Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:06 AM
FreakinDJ (17,644 posts)
Unlike Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders Never Says, 'When I Become President, I Will Answer Your QuesUnlike Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders Never Says, 'When I Become President, I Will Answer Your Question'
One attribute shared by Ronald Reagan and Barrack Obama is the ability to communicate a message. While their messages differ politically, the speeches of both two-term presidents seem to hit the core of what voters were looking for during their respective eras. When a person is straightforward and forthright in their words, even a xenophobic and nativist New York billionaire can reach the hearts and minds of his constituency. After so long of being forced to hear vapid talking points and carefully crafted political rhetoric, Americans yearn for honesty and clarity in leadership. This is why Hillary Clinton's style of communication is not only vague, but lends itself to criticism. A Washington Post article titled "Hilary Clinton's ridiculous hedge on Keystone XL" quotes the former Secretary of State's answer to a simple question about her stance on the pipeline: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders_b_7893228.html
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FreakinDJ | Jul 2015 | OP |
TwilightGardener | Jul 2015 | #1 | |
FreakinDJ | Jul 2015 | #2 | |
frylock | Jul 2015 | #3 | |
BeyondGeography | Jul 2015 | #4 | |
DURHAM D | Jul 2015 | #5 | |
Dr Hobbitstein | Jul 2015 | #6 | |
BeyondGeography | Jul 2015 | #7 | |
FreakinDJ | Jul 2015 | #10 | |
BeyondGeography | Jul 2015 | #11 | |
FreakinDJ | Jul 2015 | #14 | |
Sheepshank | Jul 2015 | #15 | |
L0oniX | Jul 2015 | #21 | |
fredamae | Jul 2015 | #8 | |
NCjack | Jul 2015 | #23 | |
HFRN | Jul 2015 | #9 | |
whatchamacallit | Jul 2015 | #12 | |
Agschmid | Jul 2015 | #18 | |
whatchamacallit | Jul 2015 | #19 | |
Agschmid | Jul 2015 | #20 | |
Sheepshank | Jul 2015 | #13 | |
DURHAM D | Jul 2015 | #16 | |
NCTraveler | Jul 2015 | #17 | |
pa28 | Jul 2015 | #22 | |
BainsBane | Jul 2015 | #24 |
Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:10 AM
TwilightGardener (46,416 posts)
1. Well, no. He's an honest and forthright person.
Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #1)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:11 AM
FreakinDJ (17,644 posts)
2. ^^^^ THIS ^^^^
Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:12 AM
frylock (34,825 posts)
3. Imagine sitting in a job interview, and stating 'When I get the job, I'll answer your question'
Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:24 AM
BeyondGeography (38,558 posts)
4. Terrible answer; it's in the "for it before I was against it" league
in that it can be endlessly repackaged and repeatedly used against her. Make that, "will."
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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:25 AM
DURHAM D (32,177 posts)
5. Adults get this.
Bernie is running against the White House. Hillary is not and is allowing the President to finish his term.
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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #5)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:30 AM
Dr Hobbitstein (6,568 posts)
6. These are the same people who twisted Liz Warren's words
about not running for POTUS. If they can't be honest about their own candidates, what makes you think they can be honest about one they don't like?
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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #5)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:33 AM
BeyondGeography (38,558 posts)
7. Adults also understand she can't evade her way all the way to the White House
If she was so intent on allowing the President to finish his term successfully, where's her full-on support of the Iran accord, where she was also involved? Or maybe she deploying this excuse for non-answers selectively, depending on the issue, ya know.
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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #7)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:46 AM
FreakinDJ (17,644 posts)
10. Does anyone "Really Believe" the GOP is done with the Email Scandal
I mean "Really"
I can't wait until her ordained coronation ensues so the House Hearings can begin. 24/7 News cycle "Hilary Email Server hacked" - "Hilary Sensitive Classified Information" - "Hilary in violation of protocol" - "House calls for charges" all the way up to the general election |
Response to FreakinDJ (Reply #10)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:55 AM
BeyondGeography (38,558 posts)
11. Which is another reason why she can't revert to form and play keep away
She knows better than anyone the shitstorm cometh, how about building a little goodwill and trust with the base right now?
I admit to being nervous. I don't see her losing the nomination, nor do I see any indication that she's doing what it takes to deal with her negatives. She's at Donald Trump-like levels on trustworthiness, and claptrap like this only makes things worse. |
Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #11)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 12:00 PM
FreakinDJ (17,644 posts)
14. Well said
Response to DURHAM D (Reply #5)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 12:02 PM
Sheepshank (12,504 posts)
15. She could have lied and said what she thinks the majority wants to hear...but she didn't n/t
Response to DURHAM D (Reply #5)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 12:38 PM
L0oniX (31,493 posts)
21. Yes we all know Hillary is "buying the stairway" to the white house.
Apologises to Led Zepplin.
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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:41 AM
fredamae (4,458 posts)
8. At least HRC gave us
the option to "take it or leave it" regarding her answer.
What I heard: Don't like it? Tough Shit..this is THE answer............Next? |
Response to fredamae (Reply #8)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 01:45 PM
NCjack (10,118 posts)
23. I'll "leave it". Can't vote for a surprise package. nt
Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:45 AM
HFRN (1,469 posts)
9. when she is president, she will answer your question, as long as she doesn't feel
it is coming from the vast right wing conspiracy. in that case, she has no obligation to answer to you, because she'll know what you're really up to
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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 11:56 AM
whatchamacallit (15,558 posts)
12. She will never become president
At least not without a SCOTUS or mass Diebold-style intervention...
Hey, maybe she can set up her own vote tally server at home! |
Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #12)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 12:32 PM
Agschmid (28,749 posts)
18. Super productive post.
Response to Agschmid (Reply #18)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 12:34 PM
whatchamacallit (15,558 posts)
19. I'm sorry it displeases you my liege
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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #19)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 12:37 PM
Agschmid (28,749 posts)
20. Good.
Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 12:00 PM
Sheepshank (12,504 posts)
13. Bernie makes pie in the sky promises he can never fulfill
Never. It's not just I think they can't be fulfilled, HE knows they can't. His rhetoric is designed to fire up his constituency, but they are fired up with empty promises.....are those types of falseties, honest? He misleads his constituency with lines like "Ill never accept PAC money", when the reality is that no candidate can. He just pretends at a more noble stand with financing.
Of course he answers, he makes it up as he goes along and promises the world. Hillary is trying to be honest in that she won't undermine her last boss until the Keystone thing is finally resolved and won't state a lie just to get a vote. Obama has already vetoed the pipeline once. BTW I haven't used HuffPO as a source since they strung Obama out to dry, after only his 2nd year in office, and Arianna Huffington bad mouthed Obama over and over and over on MSNBC. Note: she hasn't been on for a while, I wonder why?. I don't know what their real agenda is. |
Response to Sheepshank (Reply #13)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 12:05 PM
DURHAM D (32,177 posts)
16. Yep.
Nobody panders better.
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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 12:18 PM
NCTraveler (30,481 posts)
17. Giving this a K&R.
While I understand why Hillary said it, and I have respect for her doing so, it is a fair distinction and worthy of debate. I personally think she should opine on Keystone. I feel really confident she supports it, as many do, but she is giving the President his opportunity to work on it without her interference. While many see this as unacceptable, I promise there are more huge Obama supporters who find this to be a position of respect. I also think it is going to go better for her in the debates than most think if it isn't worked out by then. The ways she will address this in front of cameras, without taking a stand, will have many Obama supporters standing up cheering. To be clear, most making issue of this are also the ones who find very few positive things to say about Obama. Obama is bigger than some think. Obama support is bigger than some think.
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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 01:25 PM
pa28 (6,145 posts)
22. If you want to find out why only a third of Iowans find her trustworthy start here.
They've learned to recognize the parsed language of a compromised politician and they don't like it very much.
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Response to FreakinDJ (Original post)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 01:50 PM
BainsBane (52,573 posts)
24. No, but he does make a whole lot of promises
He is not going to be able to deliver on. Clinton understands people will expect her to make good on what she says.
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