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babylonsister

(170,963 posts)
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:06 AM Jun 2012

Top conservative says read my lips: Don’t sign ‘no new tax’ pledge

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Top conservative says read my lips: Don’t sign ‘no new tax’ pledge
By Jonathan Karl, Richard Coolidge, Gregory Lemos & Sherisse Pham

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As a conservative Republican, Lindsey Graham has never had a problem promising not to raise taxes. Like almost every other Republican member of Congress, during his last re-election campaign, he signed the anti-tax pledge put forth by Grover Norquist's group Americans for Tax Reform.

But now Graham says the debt crisis is so severe that the tax pledge — which says no tax loopholes can be eliminated unless every dollar raised by closing loopholes goes to tax cuts -- has got to go.

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This puts Graham at odds with his party's leadership. Just last August, when the eight Republican presidential candidates were asked if they would reject a deal with $10 in spending cuts for every $1 in revenue, all eight said they would walk away. But Graham is now raising his hand for increased revenues — he says he could support a plan that included $4 in spending cuts for every $1 in increased tax revenue.

"We're so far in debt, that if you don't give up some ideological ground, the country sinks," said Graham.

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Top conservative says read my lips: Don’t sign ‘no new tax’ pledge (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2012 OP
wow, maybe we are getting somewhere then. jpbollma Jun 2012 #1
All republiCONs are trying to move to the center now. xtraxritical Jun 2012 #12
There goes Graham's election. n/t BlueToTheBone Jun 2012 #2
Never. Grover is basically a bully and needs to be confronted. davidwparker Jun 2012 #9
I don't think Richard Lugar was in a backwater and look BlueToTheBone Jun 2012 #11
Imagine that.... Wounded Bear Jun 2012 #3
It's the stench of desperation.... rfranklin Jun 2012 #4
Also, The Devil is in the Details jpbollma Jun 2012 #5
Also, the funds cut should be proportional Alcibiades Jun 2012 #14
I was wondering when they would get around to slaying their last RINOs. Lieberman, McCain and Graham WingDinger Jun 2012 #6
The more division in the Republicans the better for us SoutherDem Jun 2012 #7
If Obama wins, they will split. WingDinger Jun 2012 #8
Lindsey Graham should be admired for standing up to speak the truth. Thinkingabout Jun 2012 #10
admired? liberalnationalist Jun 2012 #13
It's not unheard of Alcibiades Jun 2012 #15
Admired is a strong word but I see that he made a good point.n/t hrmjustin Jun 2012 #16
He will retract that statement after a phone call by Limbaugh or Norquist. AlinPA Jun 2012 #17

jpbollma

(552 posts)
1. wow, maybe we are getting somewhere then.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:13 AM
Jun 2012

This will cause a huge fight with the Tea Party. It is also against their presidential nominees statements (however, we know he can always do another flip flop).

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
12. All republiCONs are trying to move to the center now.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:24 PM
Jun 2012

The last thing centrist repubs want is for the far right Tparty faction to tank the economy and credit rating of the US at year end. Also they know that they have to appear to be more moderate now, for the general election in Nov. Vote a straight Democratic ballot.

davidwparker

(5,397 posts)
9. Never. Grover is basically a bully and needs to be confronted.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 05:40 PM
Jun 2012

He may be able to take out a congressman in some backwater hell hole, but not a red senator in a red southern state.

Wounded Bear

(58,440 posts)
3. Imagine that....
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:28 AM
Jun 2012

he's actually making noises about the country being more important than his idiot fucking ideology.

Kind of sad, really. He might get enough moderate/blue dog votes with comments like that to get re-elected and continue to carpet bomb the country.

Went all the way down to 4/1 for cuts/revenue, eh? I say we tell him to fuck off and go for 1/1.

 

rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
4. It's the stench of desperation....
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:43 AM
Jun 2012

They know that their scams are no longer working on the electorate.

jpbollma

(552 posts)
5. Also, The Devil is in the Details
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 10:54 AM
Jun 2012

He probably wants the 4x in cuts to be all in social programs and all the 1x in revenue for the military. That is a deal breaker for me personally, however, they could probably get enough Democrats to push that through the Senate.

Alcibiades

(5,061 posts)
14. Also, the funds cut should be proportional
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:09 PM
Jun 2012

South Carolina is an exceptionally large recipient of federal largesse. If Senator Lindsey wants so many cuts, he should start with the Sandlapper state, because it gets far more than its fair shgare from Washington.

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
7. The more division in the Republicans the better for us
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:15 PM
Jun 2012

What I would love is to see is such infighting that they really split. One the Republican party similar to the one of many years ago and one far to the right.

This would hopeful divide their vote and the money.

 

WingDinger

(3,690 posts)
8. If Obama wins, they will split.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:21 PM
Jun 2012

There will be so much navel gazing and self important posturing, and mainstream media hangin on every thought, I will puke.

To the almost irrelevance of Dems agenda. So as to smash any political capital he might possess.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
10. Lindsey Graham should be admired for standing up to speak the truth.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:33 PM
Jun 2012

It is going to take more strong people standing up for the truth to get this country back on track. It will never happen with Boehner wimping out and crying and not facing the truth. If Grover is going to call all the shots he needs to pay the salaries and expenses of the wimps he has gotten to sign his pledge. He is only one and can not vote but the one time, forget about him.

 

liberalnationalist

(170 posts)
13. admired?
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 11:05 PM
Jun 2012

don't think so....some polls show SC a toss up for Obama...unheard of in the South..Karl Rove's map has it as a toss up last time I looked...

the republican party is going to split...I just hope its before the election!

the left needs a landslide, a electoral shift for once!

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