2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton Wins Key Endorsement From American Federation of Teachers
It's the first major union endorsement of the 2016 Democratic presidential primary
Hillary Clinton has secured the first major union endorsement of the 2016 Democratic presidential primary.
The American Federation of Teachers, a powerful, 1.6 million-strong national union, voted on Saturday to endorse the former secretary of state, calling Clinton a champion for working families.
https://time.com/3954717/hillary-clinton-endorsement-american-federation-teachers/
Wilms
(26,795 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)What does that mean ... they shared a taxi cab? ... they follow her on Linked-in (she follows them)?
General Rule: Statements with such a qualifiers typically means "it didn't happen", e.g., "I as much as won the game", means I lost.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Depend on our teachers to educate everyone.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Bernie's against the over testing, against turning education into a profit-making industry.
Waiting for more.
Hillary also strongly supports Common Core which is causing great dissension among ranks of educators.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021860154
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)eom
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)School, she doesn't just look at one part of education, she has advocated for preschool also.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Teachers k-12, predominantly women, middle class. It makes sense.
oasis
(49,376 posts)Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
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BooScout
(10,406 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Go, Hillary!!!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Saw two cars parked in front with Bernie stickers. The "leadership can endorse who they want. Doesn't mean the rank-and-file are going to follow.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)madfloridian
(88,117 posts)They don't seem very happy overall.
The executive committee of AFT made the decision. Many members complaining they had no input, were not polled.
American Federation of Teachers Endorses Hillary Clinton
WASHINGTON -- Hillary Clinton picked up an early if not surprising endorsement on Saturday from one of the country's largest labor unions: the American Federation of Teachers.
The executive council of the 1.6-million member AFT voted "overwhelmingly" in favor of backing the early frontrunner for the Democratic nomination, according to an announcement from the union. It marks the first endorsement from a major national labor union during the 2016 presidential campaign.
"Hillary Clinton is a tested leader who shares our values, is supported by our members, and is prepared for a tough fight on behalf of students, families and communities," Randi Weingarten, the union's president, said in the statement.
Weingarten and Clinton have been personal friends for years and the union threw its weight behind the Democrat during her 2008 campaign as well. In the resolution declaring its endorsement, the AFT said it polled its members twice and held two town halls before deciding which primary candidate to back.
At both Twitter and Facebook there are many teachers who are upset and angry. They intend not to follow the endorsement.
https://twitter.com/search?q=aft%20hillary&src=typd
https://www.facebook.com/AFTunion/posts/10153179896154160
Arthur Goldstein, aka TeacherArthurG is taking a poll at his NYC Educator website.
http://nyceducator.com/2015/07/hillary-and-randi.html
AFT poll turns out to actually be one of those famous 10-foot poles we've all heard so much about. We will keep you updated here at NYC Educator.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Sit down, shut up and vote. She's inevitable.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Man of Distinction
(109 posts)The executive council of AFT endorsed Clinton without one single input from the teachers, and they are hopping mad.
Another gunshot to the foot misfire by the Clinton surrogates.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I found his tone threatening.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I don't usually post in here, I have this forum in my trash can, but I saw that utter bs OP of his on the front page and knew it had to be countered. Luckily the admins showed him the door. Again.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I have misbehaved on this site but threatening others posters , implicitly or explicitly, should be verboten.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Teacheral
(33 posts)Many retired teachers are for Bernie. With age comes wisdom.
Man of Distinction
(109 posts)Teachers are hopping mad. Thank you, madfloridan for continuing to keep tabs on the AFT and I trust her when it comes to teachers.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)Man of Distinction
(109 posts)LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)It'll be ok I promise. I'm sure Bern will get his share of endorsements.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)eom
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)<Weingarten and Clinton have been personal friends for years and the union threw its weight behind the Democrat during her 2008 campaign as well. In the resolution declaring its endorsement, the AFT said it polled its members twice and held two town halls before deciding which primary candidate to back.>
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/11/american-federation-of-teachers-clinton_n_7777410.html
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I didn't get/not getting what I want from the larger group so the larger group most be illegitimate!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I listened to a town hall meeting from the AFT . . . The first 1/2 hour was Randi speaking about (selling) the transparency and inclusiveness (my words) of AFT leadership before they decide who to endorse for President. She talked about sending the attached questionnaire to all the candidates and receiving responses from Democrats only. After the questionnaires the candidates were invited to be interviewed.
The purpose of the town hall meeting . . . was to allow members to ask questions.
I pushed [zero] and spoke to a very friendly person. I had to tell her my question before going in the cue. My question was: Where can I find a copy of the candidates answers to the questionnaires and a transcript of the interviews? Obviously, I was not chosen to ask this question publicly. However, Randi announced that everyone who had waited and did not get a chance to ask their question could email her to get their answer.
I emailed her and this was her response: We promised the candidates that we would not distribute questionnaires beyond the Exec Council thats why we are trying to do it orally as part of these Town Halls. Why dont I send you the questionnaire and then you give me a sense of which of the questions you want answered.
AFT political director John Ost did indeed send my contact the questionnaire, but this just raised more questions, because the candidate questionnaire clearly stated: The AFT has prepared this questionnaire to gauge your views on issues of concern to our members . . . Please note that your answers will be made available to our members and posted on the AFT public website.
So much for transparency and inclusiveness. Who wants to bet which of the Democratic candidates doesnt want their positions on teachers unions and education made widely available?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Union in order to participate in the polling.
LordGlenconner
(1,348 posts)And the others on the AFT endorsement. All supported solely by some angry posts on the organization's Facebook page and Bernie bumper stickers on cars at one of the group's chapters.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)That's just the website I am going to take as gospel.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)oasis
(49,376 posts)A stroll through the whine vineyard in the early a.m..
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)PatrickforO
(14,570 posts)Sure they did...
So, what are all those comments from teachers saying they weren't asked?
Sounds like SOMEBODY jumped the gun!
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Our future is literally in their hands.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)None, not a single one, was even asked about their opinion on this.
Saying that they aren't happy about it, is being generous.
WTG Team Hillary, piss off some people with your blatant dirty politics.
William769
(55,145 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)What a shock <rolleyes>
Now normally, what comes with a Union endorsement is a whole lot of volunteers for canvassing and phone-banking. In this case, Weingartner is going to have a hard time delivering...in fact, may have delivered to Sanders. Way to go!
DemocratSinceBirth
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http://www.aft.org/sites/default/files/memo_presidentialsurvey2015.pdfronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)Let the thread shitting begin! Oh, I see it has. I'm sure my stalker with report this.
George II
(67,782 posts)....and more than half participated in the polls, website questionnaires, etc., and they responded 3-1 in favor of Clinton.