Peter D. Rosenstein ----- Open Letter to Bernie Sanders and supporter

[ronnykmarshall]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-d-rosenstein/an-open-letter-to-bernie_b_7761360.html

[peacebird]

1. Maybe he should direct his advice to Hillary's surrogates. Don't attack Bernie, he has NEVER

attacked Hillary.

A lot of what Hillary supporters here label as misogyny or attacks are when we post her actual statements or actions.

[ronnykmarshall]

3. Just the reply I excepted.

Thanks.

[sheshe2]

11. First response too.

Surprise.

[2banon]

49. When and where did Bernie ever attack HRC?

[djean111]

2. Yawn.

At least it is not the usual Hillary has a bunch of money so Bernie should quit now.
"Self-described Socialist", all the usual buzz words.

[William769]

4. Very well written & very true.

The clown car is who needs to be attacked not a fellow Democrat. Luckily the Democrat being attacked, has poise & grace and can handle it unlike people that jump out of their skin at the first mention of any criticism of their candidate (if their candidate is perfect, why isn't he already President and or why has his poll numbers plateaued? makes one wonder). I think that's what is pissing them off more than anything.

I won't even mention the fact Hillary is going to be our nominee. Oops, too late.

[ronnykmarshall]

9. and looky below ...

shocker huh?

[William769]

13. Not in the least. Just as expected.

[sheshe2]

18. Is there a response below, ronny?

I can't seem to see it. I have been told for years to use ignore, yet never did. Just started a few months ago. I am up to 3 now.

Lol~ a few days ago I blocked a whole group.

[MannyGoldstein]

5. The DLC/Third Way has run our Party for 20+ years

Many of us think that things have gone very, very badly.

A total disaster.

Time for new management.

[Man of Distinction]

8. *GASP*

What would Third Way Manny say to that?

[Bobbie Jo]

21. Indeed.

Welcome to DU.

Lurker, I presume?

[zappaman]

31. !!!

[MannyGoldstein]

35. Bunch of INGRATES!!!

After all that we've done to for you people over the years, this is what we get?

I need to go count my money to feel better.

Damned Warrenistas.

Regards,

TWM

[Trajan]

14. Hear hear ...

The coronation shall be interrupted

[bettyellen]

34. Have you ever liked one Dem President since you switched from being a republican, Manny?

I was trying to do the math, but you would not give a time frame or reason when I asked about your Republican years.
Let's see Clinton, nope. Clinton? Nope. Obama.... hells no. That leaves.... none- isn't that right?

Sounds like you're as happy with Dems as you were with Republicans!

[AgingAmerican]

43. You can't understand why he doesn't support

... 'Centrist', Democrats, AKA half-publicans? Perhaps he is tired of right wing, would be my guess???

[bettyellen]

48. I don't understand why he never ever has given a straight answer.

It's not easy to understand why someone has a "come to Jesus" moment and switches from Republican to Democrat and yet has never ever liked any of the Democratic leadership.

What would prompt you to switch parties when you overwhelmingly disapprove of their leadership for - I don't know is it twenty or thirty years now? Or since FDR?

Makes no sense at all. And of course it's nothing anyone else should try and explain on his behalf.

[HFRN]

56. yup, 'Third Way==> NO WAY!!

enought of this 3rd way/DLC bs

[HERVEPA]

6. Who gives a flying fuck about what Peter D. Rosenstein thinks?

[ronnykmarshall]

10. Must you use vulgarity????

Can't you make a point without using such, such .... potty words?

GOOD DAY, Madam!

[HERVEPA]

12. I'm a guy, and who gives a fuck what you think of my language.

[kath]

30. The person who replied to you called you a m------f---er and the vote to hide was only 4-3?!!?

Jeebus H. Christ on a Trailer Hitch.

[MannyGoldstein]

36. Sometimes, by sheer coincidence, a group of people who feel a certain way

are on the site at a certain moment and all serve as jurors.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5715138

[Trajan]

15. I liked that language ...

View so far? .. 1-1

[Man of Distinction]

7. Stopped reading at "Unabashed long time supporter of Clinton"

Nothing new to add. Another hit piece.

[cherokeeprogressive]

22. I read bit farther: "her election as the first woman president of the United States of America"

That, far and away, seems to be the most important thing for way too many people.

[Jefferson23]

17. He's worried, good. n/t

[hrmjustin]

19. K&R!

[sheshe2]

20. Kick

[kenfrequed]

23. This is crap.

Seriously, does this guy honestly expect a candidate that takes so much from bankers and wallstreet to be able to stand up to them?

Yeah, your a liberal for Clinton. Fine. I get that and I respect you have a different opinion. I can tell you that Hillary is Third Way all the way and is only vaguely matching Bernie's policy initiatives with a lot of rhetoric and a lack of specifics.

[ronnykmarshall]

25. Thanks hon

[freshwest]

42. Watch it! Your husband might not like you saying that to strange men! LOL! Love ya, ronny.

I'm old and single so it doesn't matter what I say. I don't have to answer to a spouse!

[99Forever]

24. Same shit, different author.

Ever notice how these shills NEVER talk about the actual issues that many Bernie Sanders supporters have with Clinton? The hard REAL WORLD things she has done that have destroyed our trust in her and her rhetoric? Instead, they misrepresent far less important "differences" in a blatant attempt to drive a wedge between Bernie and his supporters.

No sale pal. Your game is just plain stale.

[ronnykmarshall]

26. More vulgar words!

Can you edit that and replace the brown-word with "doo-doo"?

Thanks so much in advance.

[99Forever]

27. Nope.

Run along now, some forum is missing it's Word Monitor.

[ronnykmarshall]

28. How nice .....

[Man of Distinction]

37. *GASP* - Grab the clutching pearls..

Meanie said "shit", and we are supposed to faint at this awful word?

intended.

[hootinholler]

29. I wonder which hillary group member he is?

[99Forever]

32. Yep, makes ya wonder.

[sadoldgirl]

33. Well, I have to say that I had to read further, and

the fun started with all the replies. From those I
took it that he made very few, if any friends there.

He has his voice, and it is one. There are far more
voices of a different kind answering him.

[kath]

40. The comments are great. They clearly ain't buying what Rosenstein's selling.

[murielm99]

38. He makes a call for civility,

and Bernie supporters show their true colors. The comments on his article show whose supporters lack civility: Bernie's.

I see who the real surrogates are, and they are not Hillary's supporters.

[kath]

39. Perhaps you should read the article more closely. As one of the commenters at that site pointed out,

Rosenstein's piece is "An attack piece while calling to avoid attacks. An appeal towards the inevitablity of Hillary as a candidate while claiming to welcome the debate. A velvet glove of civility holding a verbal shiv." (commenter Sean Westberg)

[murielm99]

41. I can read just fine, thanks.

And thank you for your concern.

[frylock]

44. bwahahaha!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251434216#post38

[m-lekktor]

45. woooooosh. reading is one thing

comprehending is another apparently. this "letter" is nothing but passive aggressive patronizing and condescendsion. nothing epitomizes the tone/attitude of the Hillary camp better than this so it is worth a read for that reason at least as proof as to how they feel about us lesser people. the comments telling the pompous gasbag off one after the other following the "letter" on that page are well worth the read as well.

[m-lekktor]

46. Awww bless Peter D. Rosenstein's heart. He so precious!1

[SusanCalvin]

52. But, but..... It's a call for civility!!!111!!!!!! nt

I hope I don't actually need this, but one never knows....

[dmosh42]

47. What a bullshitter! Forgot to mention about HRC's vigorous support of invading Iraq and how she was

an ardent Barry Goldwater supporter. They are in no way alike. Bernie is very clear about his positions, while HRC has to calculate her political points before we know where she is.

[artislife]

50. Funny you would post that.

Because the responses to this letter on the HPost have been fun! I imagine you would react to the same kind of OP piece in the HPost as well. And there you go. It gave you and H supporters a place to comment on comments with snide remarks. This reminds me so much of 2008.

[SusanCalvin]

51. Thank goodness for comment sections. nt

[CharlotteVale]

54. Some great ones. His letter went over like a lead balloon!

[HFRN]

57. he's trying to act as the 'Whip' on party members

which generally only breeds resentment and mistrust

a congressional 'Whip' has deals to make to go along with the bullying

[CharlotteVale]

53. Sounds like he wants every Sanders supporter to sit down and shut up. Sorry,

ain't gonna happen no matter how many self-serving "open letters" he writes.

[HFRN]

55. patronizing and bullying, as 'open-letters' generally are nt

[HFRN]

58. straight out of Orwell's 'Animal Farm'

'leave the thinking to your betters, forget your little concerns'
all we need from you now, is a little obedience'


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