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Sun Mar 1, 2015, 09:59 AM

Martin O’Malley, in Veiled Jab at Hillary Clinton, Derides Politics of ‘Triangulation’

Martin O’Malley, the former Maryland governor who is likely to seek the Democratic nomination for president in 2016, took a veiled shot at a potential rival, Hillary Rodham Clinton, in a speech in South Carolina on Saturday, criticizing the politics of “triangulation” that have historically been associated with the Clintons.

“The most fundamental power of our party and our country is the power of our moral principles,” Mr. O’Malley said, according to a transcript of his remarks provided by an aide.

In words that echoed those of Senator Barack Obama when he battled Mrs. Clinton in 2007 for the Democratic nomination, Mr. O’Malley added: “Triangulation is not a strategy that will move America forward. History celebrates profiles in courage, not profiles in convenience.”

Mr. O’Malley’s comments came at the Democratic Party’s John Spratt Issues Conference in Myrtle Beach, and South Carolina is a crucial early primary state that Mrs. Clinton lost to Mr. Obama. Mr. O’Malley has in the past declined to contrast himself with Mrs. Clinton.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/01/us/politics/martin-omalley-in-veiled-jab-at-hillary-clinton-derides-politics-of-triangulation.html

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Reply Martin O’Malley, in Veiled Jab at Hillary Clinton, Derides Politics of ‘Triangulation’ (Original post)
DonViejo Mar 2015 OP
Renew Deal Mar 2015 #1
merrily Mar 2015 #3
Renew Deal Mar 2015 #14
Kalidurga Mar 2015 #2
merrily Mar 2015 #4
Kalidurga Mar 2015 #5
merrily Mar 2015 #6
merrily Mar 2015 #7
Kalidurga Mar 2015 #10
merrily Mar 2015 #11
Kalidurga Mar 2015 #12
merrily Mar 2015 #13
BlueMTexpat Mar 2015 #8
FSogol Mar 2015 #9

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2015, 10:01 AM

1. I thought that comment was about republicans

The rest of the speech was. The NY Times is miscarachterizing his comments.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 1, 2015, 10:39 AM

3. Republicans triangulate?

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Response to merrily (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 11:50 PM

14. Do you really need to ask?

And this years class is as bad as any.

Paul on vaccines and pretty much everything else when asked directly.
Rubio on immigration
Christie on many things. Recently the pig farm issue.
Walker on many things including evolution recently.
Romney on everything.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2015, 10:13 AM

2. Well if it was a jab it was a good one

not really sure if I care who was jabbed at this point. The PTB need to be shaken up in both parties. We need new people and some new ideas because what was that definition of insanity again?

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 1, 2015, 10:40 AM

4. The 1% and the plutocrats are very happy with the results so far. They are not the ones

who are insane.

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Response to merrily (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 1, 2015, 10:43 AM

5. But, they are insane

eventually the empire will fall. The writing is on the wall. I can't imagine they do not see this as I see them ramping up their rhetoric and I see more hateful things coming from their side every day. They must know history if nothing else. However, the leadership on our side must know that they need to come up with some real solutions instead of keeping on handing out bandaids.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 1, 2015, 10:54 AM

7. The history that they know is that the 1% wins.

All they have to do is manage to stay in the 1% and they'll be fine, no matter who is in charge in theory. They're like that toy that ends up right side up no matter what is done to it.

Such was the case with Jefferson, Washington, Hancock, etc. The got rich and powerful under the king, and they convinced poor farmers to fight a battle for them so they could get more rich and more powerful.

The identity of individuals in the 1% may change, but whoever is in the 1% wins. After the Russian revolution, maybe the Tsar's family and the nobles lost everything, but, when the dust settled, other plutocrats were in charge.

The 99% outnumber the 1%. (The same is true, even if you go 80%-20% or 90% -10%). Yet the majority keeps allowing the minority to rule them. The plutocrats have no incentive to change. (Doling out some good words or, if push comes to shove, some small and perhaps temporary concessions is not change. It's what plutocrats always do. Hell, even King John signed the Magna Carta.)

The majority has loads of incentive, yet it doesn't change.

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Response to merrily (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 1, 2015, 10:28 PM

10. This is all completely true

yet some of them do lose their heads.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #10)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 12:25 AM

11. Some yes, mostly symbolically. Compared to deaths among the 99%, it's negligible.

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Response to merrily (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 12:39 AM

12. Yes

the 1% kill us by starvation I think that is their favorite, hypothermia, fighting against single payer, and lots of other ways. They cause widespread depression among the poor and then blame us/them for it. Yes they have a good gig going but like any system if it gets too heavy at the top it will crash, I just hope I am out of the way when it does.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 12:54 AM

13. Wars, illness, starvation, poor nutrition, a great variety.

When one group of 1%ers get toppled, another one takes its place.

Usually, when systems get toppled, the lives of the masses have been brutal and they are starting to trace their plight to the ruling class. Smart governments don't let the worst happen to the masses. Bread and Circus, New Deal.

The more things change.....

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2015, 12:59 PM

8. Very "veiled jab"

except in the eyes of those who want to present fellow Democrats as opposed to Hillary ....

While there is truth in the statement, hyperbolic stretch in the headline, IMO.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2015, 02:26 PM

9. NYTimes trying to pretend there is a fight between O'Malley and HRC.

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