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politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 08:18 PM Oct 2014

Chris Matthews on Hardball talking about what happens if Blacks don't show up and the Dems lose

control of the Senate. Chris Matthews has been knocking the President for the past year and playing into the Rights' claims and criticisms against the President about the ACA website crapola, and that he's aloof, and stories about Reagan and Tip and how they were able to sit down for a drink in the evenings, as if this Congress is the Congress when Tip O'Neil was the Speaker of the House. If the Dems lose everything Nov 4, it will be their fault that they never learned to play HARDBALL like the GOP. The Dems never learned how to stick with one coherent message (even if you're wrong) the way the Rigthwingnut machine knows how to do. As the saying goes, if you repeat a lie enough times it becomes the truth. As someone mentioned here a few days ago, a couple of years ago, the GOP was on life support. But their constant running around screaming that the house was on fire while doing nothing concrete to shore up or reinforce the house, will return them to the leadership of both houses of Congress on Tuesday and the Dems will have no one to blame but themselves.

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Chris Matthews on Hardball talking about what happens if Blacks don't show up and the Dems lose (Original Post) politicaljunkie41910 Oct 2014 OP
I won't watch him until this election is over and even then I might not watch after it's over bigdarryl Oct 2014 #1
i think Matthews hates Christie trueblue2007 Nov 2014 #22
Mathews might get close to Rachel in overall ratings, House of Roberts Nov 2014 #26
We're Fucked? otohara Oct 2014 #2
The GOP is DOA and they have "DNR" written on their foreheads! Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #3
how on earth does one believe that in the face of so much evidence to the contrary? cali Oct 2014 #4
Easy. Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #7
Wow... whatever you're smoking... make sure you save some for the rest of us. FBaggins Oct 2014 #8
Ooops, the DOW just set a new intraday record high! Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #9
Wanna make a bet? FBaggins Nov 2014 #14
No, it's true. The DOW did set a new intraday record high on Friday. Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #16
Lol!... So that was just a passing comment? FBaggins Nov 2014 #17
No, not at all. Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #18
I guess you missed all of the prior elections? FBaggins Nov 2014 #19
Try to keep up with me, this is 2014, not 1994. Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #20
That doesn't mean that you get to invent your own reality FBaggins Nov 2014 #21
U.S. Borrowing Needs at Lowest Since 2007 as Economy Strengthens Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #23
I'm pretty happy with how things are going there too... FBaggins Nov 2014 #24
This is the worst analysis of the 2014 midterms I've ever seen. Imajika Oct 2014 #10
Not true, Clinton's didn't control the House or Senate his last two years Tommy2Tone Nov 2014 #28
Good thing nobody HERE has been knocking the President..... brooklynite Oct 2014 #5
Did he say anythng about what happens if white racists don't show up and Republicans lose? nt bemildred Oct 2014 #6
You lost me at "Chris Matthews on Hardball talking" JHB Oct 2014 #11
Right! Tweety has been wrong just about every election, so he can kiss my black ass...TWICE!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #15
Matthew's lost me when he spewed admiration for strutting Shrub's codpiece on the aircraft carrier. kairos12 Nov 2014 #12
...or licking Trent Lott's balls after he praised Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #13
What about if they all show up but their registrations are denied and their ballots "lost"? Hekate Nov 2014 #25
I don't watch Hardball Tommy2Tone Nov 2014 #27
 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
1. I won't watch him until this election is over and even then I might not watch after it's over
Thu Oct 30, 2014, 08:28 PM
Oct 2014

If he starts talking up Chris Christie 2016 I'm done with him.And to think they are saying his viewing numbers are beating Rachel how the fuck does that happen.

House of Roberts

(5,168 posts)
26. Mathews might get close to Rachel in overall ratings,
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 05:41 AM
Nov 2014

but she kills him in the 25-54 demo.

I can't stand Tweety, and I don't have enough time to watch Ed, let alone Tweety.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
3. The GOP is DOA and they have "DNR" written on their foreheads!
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 01:59 AM
Oct 2014

Not only is the Democratic party going to keep control of the Senate, they are going to take back control of the House of Representatives!!

The one BIG thing that the Democrats have going for them this year is the strengthening of the growth of the national economy.
Today the news came out that the economic growth rate reached 3.25% during the summer, far above the projected forecast.
This means that more people are making more money, lower unemployment rates, more income taxes will be collected, lower deficit, lower national debt, and more people content with the policies set forth by the President.

Another BIG thing is that the ACA, called "Obamacare" by the Republicans is reducing costs for health care insurance faster than first projected, saving millions, maybe even 100s of millions of dollars, for Americans.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
4. how on earth does one believe that in the face of so much evidence to the contrary?
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 04:10 AM
Oct 2014

There is not only current evidence in the polls but historical evidence. The President's party historically does poorly in the midterms. The only exception to that over the past 70 years was Clinton.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
7. Easy.
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 02:24 PM
Oct 2014

What I have been reading tells me that the only thing that the Republicans can possibly hope for at this point in time is to hold onto approximately 75% of their seats in the House of Representatives, after the Tea Party coalition members from within the Republican party lose their attempts at re-election this cycle and are thrown out of office.

The Republican party also has to prepare to have a filibuster-proof Senate with at least 60 Senators voting along with the Democrats, 58 of which are Democrats, with both of the Independent Senators voting with them most of the time.

When you talk about historical evidence, you have to keep in mind that President Obama is the first black President of the United States.
So, President Obama is making history every single day that he is in the White House.
President Obama is reshaping American political history.

And that is what has gotten the Republicans so upset!



Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
9. Ooops, the DOW just set a new intraday record high!
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 03:20 PM
Oct 2014

Obama is going to go as Jim Carrey's character from the movie "Mask" for Halloween this year.

"Smokin'! Somebody stop me!"



FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
14. Wanna make a bet?
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 11:19 PM
Nov 2014

No... seriously. If you really think that.. you should make a bet.

The Iowa Elections Market barely registers a possibility of us winning both houses. The payoff could be greater than 100:1

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
16. No, it's true. The DOW did set a new intraday record high on Friday.
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 02:37 PM
Nov 2014

Do you know how I know that?
Because I get alerts for that kind of thing.

So, you'd lose if you were to bet against facts.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
17. Lol!... So that was just a passing comment?
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 03:28 PM
Nov 2014

You didn't intend it as supporting evidence for your claim that we pick up seats in the Senate and win back the House?

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
18. No, not at all.
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 03:36 PM
Nov 2014

It is also supporting evidence that we will still control the Senate after Tuesday and will also control the House after Tuesday's elections.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
19. I guess you missed all of the prior elections?
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 03:45 PM
Nov 2014

You might, for instance, note that we controlled both houses of Congress and the White House in 1994 when the market hit all-time highs...

... how did that work out for our congressional incumbents?

Or those recent highs that protected the republican majorities in 2006?

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
21. That doesn't mean that you get to invent your own reality
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 04:45 PM
Nov 2014

Nowhere in your link is there a reason to believe that a high stock market equals electoral success for the party of the President.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
23. U.S. Borrowing Needs at Lowest Since 2007 as Economy Strengthens
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 06:39 PM
Nov 2014

Nov. 3 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Treasury Department said its borrowing from October through December will be the lowest for the period in seven years as the economy gains momentum, boosting tax receipts.

The Treasury plans to issue $232 billion in net marketable debt in the final three months of this year, about $45 billion more than projected three months ago and the lowest since 2007, it said today in Washington. Next quarter, the Treasury plans to borrow $209 billion, the department said.

U.S. budget deficits have been falling since 2009, and the 2014 deficit was 2.8 percent of gross domestic product, according to the Congressional Budget Office. That is down from 9.8 percent of GDP in 2009, when President Barack Obama took office.

“The strengthening of economic conditions in recent years has occurred alongside a faster-than-expected reduction in the federal government budget deficit,” Karen Dynan, the Treasury’s chief economist, said in a statement. “The U.S. economic recovery continues to move solidly forward.”

Borrowing projections for the October-to-December period were revised up as the Treasury aimed to have more cash on hand at the end of the quarter, increasing its cash-balance estimate to $200 billion from $140 billion in August. The Treasury projects it will have $100 billion in cash on March 31.

The Treasury said it borrowed $205 billion in marketable debt in the three months ended in September, more than an August projection of $192 billion. The cash balance was $158 billion at the end of September, more than the previous estimate of $150 billion.

Smaller Deficits

Shrinking budget gaps have come as the economy has gained momentum. U.S. gross domestic product grew at a 3.5 percent annualized rate from July through September, the Commerce Department said Oct. 30, exceeding the median 3 percent forecast by economists in a Bloomberg survey.

The economy has gained an average of 227,000 jobs per month this year, up from a 194,000 average last, showing progress toward sustaining faster growth. Unemployment fell to 5.9 percent at the end of September from 7.2 percent a year earlier.

The better pace of hiring could trigger a self-reinforcing cycle of stronger spending that boosts business confidence and creates more jobs, adding fuel to the expansion.

Today’s Treasury borrowing estimates precede the department’s quarterly refunding announcement on Nov. 5, when the sizes of monthly note and bond sales are released. At the past refunding, the Treasury maintained the size of its two-year and three-year note auctions. The department also kept the amount of longer-term bond issuance unchanged from the previous quarter.

Link --
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/us-borrowing-needs-at-lowest-since-2007-as-economy-strengthens/ar-BBcNudb?ocid=DELLDHP

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
24. I'm pretty happy with how things are going there too...
Mon Nov 3, 2014, 07:13 PM
Nov 2014

... but what makes you think that makes the slightest bit of difference?

We've had years where we had surpluses (not just smaller deficits) and we still lost seats.

The question is what makes you think this year is any different?



Imajika

(4,072 posts)
10. This is the worst analysis of the 2014 midterms I've ever seen.
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 03:57 PM
Oct 2014

Seriously, the worst.

You are living in a fantasy land, albeit a pretty cool one, if you actually believe what you've typed out here.

The absolute best we can hope for is some sort of wash, where we lose a couple Senate and House seats but do not lose control of Senate altogether. Perhaps we knock out an unpopular Republican governor or two as icing on the cake. Real gravy from that point would be to minimize our losses on the local and state level. THAT alone would be a monumental victory and is the best case scenario.

There is virtually no chance whatsoever that the Republicans will actually lose net seats in the Senate or House.

Maybe you do not fully realize that the electorate in a mid term election is not the electorate that showed up in 2012. This time will be more white, more older people, less minorities, less youth vote, etc - all things that benefit the Republicans. The demographic breakdown of the 2014 turnout will be much more like 2010 than 2012.

You are right, there is good news about the economy. Gas prices are down, economic growth is up, consumer confidence is way up - but these things are probably coming too late and there are other economic factors that offset them. Basically, things were largely "baked in the cake" as they say by early - mid summer. The good news coming out now won't help enough in these 2014 midterms, though it certainly will help in 2016 assuming it continues.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
11. You lost me at "Chris Matthews on Hardball talking"
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 09:51 PM
Oct 2014

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Tweety is only a reliable weather-vane of how his emotional state surfs off the Beltway Cocktail Party Circuit zeitgeist du jour.

When was the last time he had useful information? Not "went on a rant that I happened to agree with", but actually provided useful information or insight?

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
13. ...or licking Trent Lott's balls after he praised
Sat Nov 1, 2014, 10:45 AM
Nov 2014

Strom Thurmond's racist ass!

Tweety will blame black folk just like everyone blames President Obama for everything. Really, we're used to being the scapegoat. Nobody ever asks why poor and middle class whites continuously votes against their own best interests, election after election.

Hekate

(90,633 posts)
25. What about if they all show up but their registrations are denied and their ballots "lost"?
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 05:14 AM
Nov 2014

What will the pundits say then? Will it still be the fault of Latinos and African Americans?

Tommy2Tone

(1,307 posts)
27. I don't watch Hardball
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 05:44 AM
Nov 2014

Matthews never has anything new and kisses John McCain and Chris Christie ass more than a porn star.

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