2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWith Ron Paul exiting, now would be a good time for Obama to evolve on cannabis prohibition
Mitt Romney is already on video here:
This is a prime opening for the Obama campaign if the president were to evolve on the issue and draw a contrast with Romney.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)Gman
(24,780 posts)We'd like to win this election. He's already gone out on plenty enough of a limb already.
Marijuana can wait.
frylock
(34,825 posts)when a plurality of people believe it should be legalized?
http://norml.org/news/2012/04/05/rasmussen-poll-plurality-of-americans-support-legalizing-and-taxing-cannabis
Gman
(24,780 posts)We're gonna WIN on that issue? Get real.
frylock
(34,825 posts)and if typing jeebus is your idea of providing an explanation, then it's no wonder your so deeply confused over the issue.
Gman
(24,780 posts)Fortunately, Obama would sooner endorse Plutonium for breakfast. It's about as big a winner and both are radioactive. That's the real world. Not some poll from NORML. He's gone out enough on a limb, thanks.
frylock
(34,825 posts)you can't even get your facts in order and you want to lecture me about the "real world" ffs. gallup also cites a poll with 50% approval. there's your real fucking world.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)for suggesting medical marijuana would not be a good issue for President Obama to embrace?
Gman
(24,780 posts)just to begin with
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)There is some evidence that championing medical marijuana could benefit President Obama's campaign, as posted earlier.
frylock
(34,825 posts)in fact, your posts contradict your belief.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)Congress controls the legalization of cannabis, the President only oversees enforcement of the policy.
So the President can run on it, but he can't do a thing about it unless a majority of Members of Congress in both the House and the Senate support it and tacit support from the opposition (ahem, Republican Senators) is achieved.
That is mathematically improbable in this election year, because there is almost no way that the Democrats can pick up enough seats to have a supermajority in the Senate.
If we run on it now, it's a guaranteed loser. Republicans will easily be able to block it and the promise can't be kept, and that's if the plank doesn't break the party in two and smack us in the back of the head.
But it's looking like an awfully attractive issue in the 2014 mid-term elections, when a supermajority in the Senate is within striking distance and a broad special-interest group like stoners can exert exceptional influence by turning out in otherwise low-interest elections.
If they can get their shit together and show Democrats that stoners will register and vote. That will require a network of lobbyists, marketers and campaign workers, so put down the bong and hop to it. Two and a half years is not long at all in politics.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Gman
(24,780 posts)Seemed like you do though.
Sorry Obama went out on a "limb".
It was about damn time if you ask me.
I apologize if that's not what you meant in your post above. It just reads that way to me.
Gman
(24,780 posts)but he's way out there on a limb politically by taking this stance. Overall, it likely won't matter on election day in November. The politics can change in a flash.
zbdent
(35,392 posts)support Obama for his "single-issue" that they make such a fuss about ...
quite often, those "single-issue" voters use that "single issue" to hide all their other B.S. that they don't actually want to admit they support ...
DCKit
(18,541 posts)Forward2012
(14 posts)are, overwhelmingly, young voters. So is it worth it to win over a small amount of young voters?
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,402 posts)I can see a push for it to be legalized sometime in the future but there's no political benefit to President Obama to endorse the idea and, frankly, it would be more likely than not to backfire on him. It's also just not that pressing an issue to a lot of people at the moment.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,232 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,402 posts)going on the record to actually advocate for it, least of all a major-party candidate for POTUS. Besides, what did his support of legalization do for Ron Paul?
grantcart
(53,061 posts)supporters, even after the Presidents latest statements on equality in marriage, and that he could pick them all of, all of them.
TBF
(32,041 posts)but surely he could re-direct his justice department into focusing on actual crimes. There are banks they could look at for example ...
musicblind
(4,484 posts)I mean if he wanted to take that position I would support him.
But I don't feel any urgent need to legalize pot.
It doesn't feel the same as civil rights.
frylock
(34,825 posts)people rotting in prison for possession isn't a civil rights issue?
jambo101
(797 posts)It would certainly be an easy way to gather billions in taxes..
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)and it's probably not a good idea if he did at this time.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)that he ever gave a shit about cannabis legalization in the first place...Seems like Paul's college-age fans were bigger believers in this than he ever was (and he cleverly did nothing to make them think otherwise)
Romulox
(25,960 posts)That's the only "sensible" approach, right now.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)You know, like saying he doesn't see anything wrong with gays getting married.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Newsweek says so.
"Now who can argue with that?" ~ Blazing Saddles
LoL
That was the funniest damn video I ever saw here.
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)Just go back to punishing it with the equivalent of a traffic ticket, like we did before the 1980's. Stop using federal law enforcement to crack down on it and stop sending people to prison for it. If outright legalization is too touchy of a subject with this and that demographic, and he's worried about being perceived as condoning drug use, I get that, and that's a battle we can fight another day.
But changing the way we deal with pot is just common sense.
agravan
(5 posts)LetTimmySmoke
(1,202 posts)One is gay marriage. The other is pot.