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EEO

(1,620 posts)
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 01:34 PM Sep 2014

How's that Nobel Peace Prize working for you?

I was in awe and strongly disagreed with the decision to award Obama the prize when he had done nothing to earn it (my friends, who also voted for Obama, were very dismayed by my criticism). It was probably one of the only times I agreed with the right wing that such a decision was way premature and undeserved. All Obama did was talk about his strong desire for peace and ending the constant wars we wage, and the Nobel Peace Prize was given to him despite the fact his actions beyond talk were negligible and what he did do had little to no impact on world peace and abating American imperialism. It was simply inane to award the Nobel Peace Prize to a new president when this country consistently wages war whether the President of the United States is a Democrat or Republican.

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How's that Nobel Peace Prize working for you? (Original Post) EEO Sep 2014 OP
I agree with you that he didn't deserve it but... lame54 Sep 2014 #1
You should file a lawsuit against the President. tridim Sep 2014 #2
File a lawsuit about what? EEO Sep 2014 #4
To make him return his Nobel Prize. tridim Sep 2014 #6
Right. EEO Sep 2014 #7
And he said same thing himself. nt NYC Liberal Sep 2014 #10
and what would you do differently? RussBLib Sep 2014 #3
This thread is about the absurdity of an award for peace being handed to someone... EEO Sep 2014 #5
the award was premature, for sure RussBLib Sep 2014 #12
Stop knocking the president. trueblue2007 Sep 2014 #18
"Peace" Prize! What a sick joke! blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #8
It's working out well for me. Wonderful president. The haters can suck eggs. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2014 #9
It's not about the president accepting the award. It is criticism of... EEO Sep 2014 #15
Why not? President is not a warmonger! Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2014 #17
Who said he is a wargmonger? EEO Sep 2014 #32
I also thought is was a mistake. Kablooie Sep 2014 #11
Isn't GD the designated anti Obama forum? LordGlenconner Sep 2014 #13
The rank and file Obama supporters here amuse me. Even the slightest hint of criticism... EEO Sep 2014 #14
why are you still complaining about it, and why are you complaining about it in geek tragedy Sep 2014 #19
I am not complaining. EEO Sep 2014 #20
Isis needs to be destroyed, and he's doing is just right. Welcome to the real world. RBInMaine Sep 2014 #16
Exactly. He's the POTUS and the CIC and he has to deal with whatever comes up. Just jenmito Sep 2014 #23
Hitler was created by WWI zipplewrath Sep 2014 #27
All irrelevant to this discussion. EEO Sep 2014 #33
When did you come to the decision that ISIS 'needs to be destroyed'? Do you live in the ME? If so, sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #39
Isn't this tread about five years too late? Blue Idaho Sep 2014 #21
The wheel of outrage spins round and round. JoePhilly Sep 2014 #29
Nope. Contemporary events make it relevant. You may not want to hear about it, but so what? EEO Sep 2014 #30
Do you even know WHY he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? davidpdx Sep 2014 #22
I do. Do you? EEO Sep 2014 #31
Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #37
Petition for the Nobel committee to rescind it, then... Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #24
That's a well argued and balanced reply. Thanks for your contribution. EEO Sep 2014 #34
How many times does this have to be explained, he won the NPP for NOT being George W. Bush. Rex Sep 2014 #25
Clearly you have NEVER read why he was awarded the NPP. pkdu Sep 2014 #26
Oh, is that clear? I certainly have read the official statement by the committee. EEO Sep 2014 #35
He was awarded for it partially for his work on nuclear proliferation as a Senator davidpdx Sep 2014 #38
Except that it clearly wasn't about his legacy mythology Sep 2014 #40
I think President Obama deserves another Nobel Peace Prize and a 3rd term. Sunlei Sep 2014 #28
It's working out just fine. He deserved that prize MuttLikeMe Sep 2014 #36

lame54

(35,130 posts)
1. I agree with you that he didn't deserve it but...
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 01:53 PM
Sep 2014

I don't agree with the right wing because they had their own reasons for challenging it

EEO

(1,620 posts)
4. File a lawsuit about what?
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 02:54 PM
Sep 2014

Last edited Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:01 PM - Edit history (1)

He received a sticker for an assignment he didn't even do.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
6. To make him return his Nobel Prize.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 03:00 PM
Sep 2014

Then impeach him because you think he is so horrible!!!!!!!!111

RussBLib

(8,983 posts)
3. and what would you do differently?
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 02:34 PM
Sep 2014

Isolationism is no longer a good idea in this shrinking, interconnected world.

EEO

(1,620 posts)
5. This thread is about the absurdity of an award for peace being handed to someone...
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 02:58 PM
Sep 2014

who didn't do anything to deserve it. And who would inevitably have to use force at some point in his presidency. At no point was isolationism promoted. To see no ground between isolationism and imperialism is a pretty black and white perspective.

RussBLib

(8,983 posts)
12. the award was premature, for sure
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 05:13 PM
Sep 2014

Sorry, I think I might have mixed up this thread with some others. Been reading a lot of things lately from people who think we should stay on the sidelines of the current clusterfuck in the Middle East and I think my mind conflated them.

EEO

(1,620 posts)
15. It's not about the president accepting the award. It is criticism of...
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:00 PM
Sep 2014

The Norwegian Nobel Committee giving it to him in the first place. There were no grounds for it and his presidency had just started. They certainly have egg on their faces now.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
17. Why not? President is not a warmonger!
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:18 PM
Sep 2014

War is necessary only as a last resort. I believe that President Obama had a series of bad choices before him. No win situation.

EEO

(1,620 posts)
32. Who said he is a wargmonger?
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 01:40 PM
Sep 2014

These knee-jerk reactions from die hard Obama supporters are ridiculous. The award was premature. It was like determining a president's legacy in the first year he is in office.

Kablooie

(18,571 posts)
11. I also thought is was a mistake.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 04:37 PM
Sep 2014

To award it based on what someone says before they were tested was not a smart move.
He should have been noted as someone to watch as a candidate for a future peace prize.

After his presidency was over and could be evaluated would be the proper time to consider it.
If at that time he lived up to his peace rhetoric there would be plenty of time to award him the peace prize.

EEO

(1,620 posts)
14. The rank and file Obama supporters here amuse me. Even the slightest hint of criticism...
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 06:54 PM
Sep 2014

... is pounced on. Unfortunately, this thread is far more a criticism of the Norwegian Nobel Committee for awarding the prize, not Obama for accepting the award.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
19. why are you still complaining about it, and why are you complaining about it in
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 11:28 PM
Sep 2014

the wrong forum?

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
16. Isis needs to be destroyed, and he's doing is just right. Welcome to the real world.
Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:45 PM
Sep 2014

We wish it was a perfect world. But it isn't. In WW2, Hitler was on the loose and had to be confronted.
Obama doesn't want this fight, but he's doing it the right way. No US boots on the ground. Air campaign.
An active regional coalition. Yes, the Middle East is a mess, for many reasons. But ISIS does need to be
obliterated. They are horrid rabid murderers who slaughter without blinking an eye, and that can't be tolerated
in the region. Blast them to peaces. If only it was a perfect world. It isn't and never will be.

jenmito

(37,326 posts)
23. Exactly. He's the POTUS and the CIC and he has to deal with whatever comes up. Just
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 01:26 PM
Sep 2014

because he prefers peace, he can't ignore the world as it IS.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
27. Hitler was created by WWI
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 09:48 PM
Sep 2014

There were many things that lead to Hitler being who he was. The roots are in WWI. The answer was to address some fundamental problems about the first peace treaty. Waiting around until WWII started was the wrong answer.

War isn't ever the answer to anything. Killing people in Iraq and Syria will only create more pissed off people. Understanding why ISIS has been successful in the region will lead to the nonviolent answers to the problems created by their dominance in the region.

And the irony of "blasting them to peaces" is just too rich.

EEO

(1,620 posts)
33. All irrelevant to this discussion.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 01:47 PM
Sep 2014

The argument I presented is how it was premature for the Nobel Peace Prize Committee to give the award to Obama. It was like determining a president's legacy in the first year of his presidency. I also acknowledged the "real world" when I stated, "It was simply inane to award the Nobel Peace Prize to a new president when this country consistently wages war whether the President of the United States is a Democrat or Republican."

Oh, and there are boots on the ground in Iraq. What the hell do you think "military advisors" are?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
39. When did you come to the decision that ISIS 'needs to be destroyed'? Do you live in the ME? If so,
Sat Sep 27, 2014, 12:24 AM
Sep 2014

then fine, ISIS is YOUR business, Americans never even heard of this now supposedly WORSE THAN HITLER group until a couple of weeks ago.

If you are an American, then what business is ISIS of yours? And when you take on this job, have you considered that we once, long, long ago decided to take out another group, but we went to the wrong country, we destroyed that country and in so doing we CREATED ISIS. Now those unfortunate people have no country where they can feel safe and we have people in THIS country demanding, DEMANDING that we REPEAT the failure we still haven't been able, after 11 years, to put back together.

Great idea, let's repeat what we did before which failed spectacularly, except for Defense Contractors of course, hoping this time all our bombs and WMDS can do what they failed to do before.

And why would it take YEARS to 'destroy' a small group of rag tag terrorists btw, when it only us together with our allies, about two/three years to destroy A REAL THREAT TO THE WORLD with a FORMIDABLE ARMY that had already proven its strength??

Has America become so weak it cannot handle a small group like ISIS without spending YEARS AND YEARS we are told, and still, after 13 years, cannot deal with the Taliban and Al Queda??

I love the fairy tales we are told, but even better is the fact that so many actually believe them!!

Blue Idaho

(4,987 posts)
21. Isn't this tread about five years too late?
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 02:59 AM
Sep 2014

Or do you think the Prize Committee owns a crystal ball or a time machine? I'm sorry but I just don't get your outrage jet lag... If you check back to say... 2009 when the award was made - you'll find plenty of discussion on the topic. Today, I'm afraid this is old news.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
22. Do you even know WHY he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize?
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 07:24 AM
Sep 2014

It sounds like you don't even know that.

EEO

(1,620 posts)
31. I do. Do you?
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 01:38 PM
Sep 2014

Hope for the future and not being George W. Bush are not tangible accomplishments. It was very premature and the equivalent of concluding what a president's legacy is in his first year in office.

Response to EEO (Reply #31)

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
25. How many times does this have to be explained, he won the NPP for NOT being George W. Bush.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:33 PM
Sep 2014

And the world breathed a collective sigh of relief!

pkdu

(3,977 posts)
26. Clearly you have NEVER read why he was awarded the NPP.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:42 PM
Sep 2014
Jagland said "We have not given the prize for what may happen in the future. We are awarding Obama for what he has done in the past year. And we are hoping this may contribute a little bit for what he is trying to do," noting that he hoped the award would assist Obama's foreign policy efforts.

EEO

(1,620 posts)
35. Oh, is that clear? I certainly have read the official statement by the committee.
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 01:50 PM
Sep 2014

And it was like determining a president's legacy in his first year in office. Hope is not a tangible accomplishment.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
38. He was awarded for it partially for his work on nuclear proliferation as a Senator
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 11:28 PM
Sep 2014

Now if you are against nuclear proliferation feel free to say so. The other part was his reaching out to the Muslim world. Tell me how many administrations prior to his have offered to talk to countries like Iran?

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
40. Except that it clearly wasn't about his legacy
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 12:36 AM
Sep 2014

It was about his work on nuclear non-proliferation and in opening further dialogue in the Middle East. It wasn't about what he could do, or what he might do.

You're arguing an invalid point in claiming that it was about giving him a legacy before his presidency was over. It's invalid because it was specifically not what the Nobel Prize committee was doing. Obviously you feel free to ignore that, but it really just makes you look like you aren't interested in anything but your own opinion.

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