2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumJustice Roberts is Wrong. Money and Speech are not the Same.
From Ring of Fire:
Yesterday, the Supreme Court handed down its decision in McCutcheon v. Federal Elections Commission (McCutcheon) and decided to strike down the aggregate limits on campaign finance contributions. The reasoning, according to Justice John Roberts, who delivered the Courts opinion along with Justices Scalia, Kennedy, and Alito, is that the right to spend money on elections is the same as the freedom to speak.
Justice Roberts is either naive or misguided and neither option is becoming of the nations highest legal authority.
The political landslide that has been won in the Court started with Citizens United, a case that, in the view of the nation, was horribly unpopular. This decision put the nation on a crash-course with the devastation that awaits unbridled and unchecked spending by corporations and private interests in our national discussions and elections.
In the words of the dissenting opinion in McCutcheon, delivered by Justice Breyer, along with Justices Ginsburg, Sotomayor, and Kagan, Taken together with Citizens United
, todays decision eviscerates our Nations campaign finance laws, leaving a remnant incapable of dealing with the grave problems of democratic legitimacy that those laws were intended to resolve.
You can read the full article here at Ring of Fire.
underpants
(182,769 posts)Its like the definition of chutzpah: the guy who kills his parents and asks for mercy from the court because hes an orphan, said Larry Norden of the Brennan Center for Justice, which favors tighter campaign finance regulation. Look at what the court has done since 2007 after Roberts came on board, one case after another gradually striking down the laws that are in place and then claiming that, therefore, more has to be done. Its nonsensical.
Of course, this was the majoritys own creation, said Rick Hasen, an election law expert and University of California-Irvine law dean. Hasen said Robertss opinion fits a pattern in which he insists the court is only changing campaign finance law at the margins, when the ultimate impact is likely to be much more dramatic.
The opinion we saw today is vintage Roberts in trying to downplay the seriousness with which hes changing the law. Its like: Theres nothing to see here, folks, the said. Its another way he paints himself as an incrementalist when in fact its quite serious.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/john-roberts-supreme-court-mccutcheon-105331.html#ixzz2xq6hAbcc
geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)of property is speech.
While I think that how I spend money says something about me I certainly do not think that I speak by spending money. I may choose to spend money on one thing or another according to my beliefs, but this is distinctly different than speaking.
How is it that money has come to mean speech.
flpoljunkie
(26,184 posts)3catwoman3
(23,973 posts)So much for "one man, one vote."
onenote
(42,694 posts)donate even a dime to a political candidate or to spend money to put up signs that they make themselves. The issue isn't whether money is speech; its whether speech in the form of contributions of money can be regulated because there is a compelling government interest in avoiding not only corruption of the political process, but even the appearance of corruption. The court got it wrong because they ignored the real risk of corruption from getting rid of the overall limits (even if there continue to be individual limits).
When I give money to support DU or the ACLU or other political organization, I'm engaging in a protected exercise of my speech rights.
flpoljunkie
(26,184 posts)onenote
(42,694 posts)The act of burning a flag is an expressive act. So too, like it or not, is the act of giving money to a political party, a political candidate, an entity that engages in political speech like DU or move on or the aclu, etc.
That doesn't mean that every expressive act is entitled to absolute protection. You're protected in your right to burn a flag, but not at a gas station. Giving money to support a political candidate or to support a group that works to achieve political ends that you support is protected speech. The question, however, is whether there are circumstances where that speech poses risks that justify the imposition on the exercise of that particular form of expression. Where the expression leads to corruption or an appearance of corruption, then limiting the expression can be justified.
flpoljunkie
(26,184 posts)Though it's hard to argue our system is not hopelessly corrupt.
Iceberg Louie
(190 posts)Only a complete imbecile would view the contention that "money equals speech" as anything but Orwellian wordplay for bribery.
Kablooie
(18,625 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)Roberts is twisting like a pretzle to come up with an excuse for this shameless vote.