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Thu Nov 28, 2013, 02:04 PM

The NSA fights dirty, who'd a thought?


Are you one of those radical lefties who believe in free love? Well, the NSA has a special weapon against you.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/26/nsa-porn-muslims_n_4346128.html

None of the six individuals targeted by the NSA is accused in the document of being involved in terror plots. The agency believes they all currently reside outside the United States. It identifies one of them, however, as a "U.S. person," which means he is either a U.S. citizen or a permanent resident. A U.S. person is entitled to greater legal protections against NSA surveillance than foreigners are.

Stewart Baker, a one-time general counsel for the NSA and a top Homeland Security official in the Bush administration, said that the idea of using potentially embarrassing information to undermine targets is a sound one. "If people are engaged in trying to recruit folks to kill Americans and we can discredit them, we ought to," said Baker. "On the whole, it's fairer and maybe more humane" than bombing a target, he said, describing the tactic as "dropping the truth on them."


Or how about bringing Occupy radicals or NSA hostile politicians under control? J. Edgar Hoover did this, and had the elected government in his palm by doing it.

Is stopping terrorism (and drugs) worth the measures we're taking? Police kill eight times as many people per year terrorists do. Since 2001, they're killed more people than the number of US deaths in Iraq.

Also, I can't forget the irony that mischief by the US intelligence community is what brought terrorists on us to begin with. If it weren't for the CIA and NSA and such, we wouldn't need the CIA and NSA. They perpetuate their own existence to protect us from the wrath from what they did yesterday.

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caseymoz Nov 2013 OP
JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #1
RC Nov 2013 #2
blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #3
blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #4
blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #5
alcibiades_mystery Nov 2013 #6
caseymoz Nov 2013 #7

Response to caseymoz (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 02:07 PM

1. Yeah,

they do engage in some job security creation.

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Response to caseymoz (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 02:30 PM

2. That is the problem in a nut shell

 

If it weren't for the CIA and NSA and such, we wouldn't need the CIA and NSA. They perpetuate their own existence to protect us from the wrath from what they did yesterday.


We create our own enemies, so we have someone to protect ourselves against.

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Response to caseymoz (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 07:47 PM

3. Only the Left are its Enemies.

 

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Response to caseymoz (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 07:48 PM

4. The article further states the NSA is watching your porn site visits. Building profiles, I presume.

 

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Response to blkmusclmachine (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 07:49 PM

5. They're making a list, and checking it twice,

 

They're gonna find out,
Who needs to be iced.

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Response to caseymoz (Original post)

Thu Nov 28, 2013, 08:13 PM

6. Ermagerd! Intelligence agencies exploit people's sexuality for intelligence advantage????

 

Who ever could have imagined such a scenario in the whole history of the world!

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 29, 2013, 03:50 AM

7. Oh, when you put it like that . . .


. . . these aren't actual enemies, people who bomb anybody, leaders of factions or even people who plan attacks. These are people who say nasty things about the US. With the poor oversight we have over the NSA, this could be aimed at anybody, including people who are politically unfriendly to the NSA.

Blackmailing somebody for what they've done in mutual sex that involves another person is one thing. But here the attack is on somebody's masturbation habits and fantasies. As blackmail goes, that's as close to thoughtcrime as it is to sexuality.

All I could say is, just wait until your privacy is breached and see if you stay blase about the principle.

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