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Sun Jul 21, 2013, 07:57 AM

Do you support U.N. Arms Trade Treaty?

(Repost,xpost) Before you decide to vote, more info in a following post; links, opinions.
The UN Arms Trade Treaty is currently July 2013 in the ratification process in the UN.
.. UN: Insurgents, armed gang members, pirates, terrorists - they can all multiply their force through the use of unlawfully acquired firepower. The illicit circulation of small arms, light weapons and their ammunition destabilizes communities, and impacts security and development in all regions of the world.. a comprehensive, legally binding instrument establishing common international standards for the import, export and transfer of conventional arms..

Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) multilateral UN treaty that regulates international trade in conventional weapons.. treaty negotiated at a global conference of the UN Jul2012 in New York.. 2Apr2013, UN Gen Assembly adopted ATT - 154-3 vote with 23 abstentions. US voted for it .. NKorea, Iran, Syria voted opposition.. treaty has been signed by 79 states, but will not enter into force until it has been ratified by 50 states. As of 20Jul2013, 79 states signed the Treaty and 2 ratified it .. Treaty will enter into force 90 days after date of 50th ratification.. A majority of {US} Senate members against treaty, 2/3 majority needed to ratify.
.. UN: the treaty will not do any of the following: interfere with domestic arms commerce or the right to bear arms in Member States; ban the export of any type of weapon; harm States' legitimate right to self-defence; or undermine national arms regulation standards already in place. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_Trade_Treaty

The most vocal groups opposing ATT {are from USA}.. National Rifle Assoc (NRA), Nat Shooting Sports Fdtn (NSSF), Heritage Fdtn. NRA and Gun Owners of America say treaty an attempt to circumvent {2ndA} and similar guarantees in state constitutions..
.. Advocates say that ATT pertains to international arms trade, and would have no effect on current {US} domestic laws.. resolution explicitly states“the exclusive right of States to regulate internal transfers of arms and national ownership, including through constitutional protections on private ownership."

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Reply Do you support U.N. Arms Trade Treaty? (Original post)
jimmy the one Jul 2013 OP
jimmy the one Jul 2013 #1
Cooley Hurd Jul 2013 #2
jimmy the one Jul 2013 #5
Deep13 Jul 2013 #3
jimmy the one Jul 2013 #4
jimmy the one Jul 2013 #6

Response to jimmy the one (Original post)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 08:06 AM

1. Addendum on UN Arms Trade Treaty

Snopes is insightful, do check it out. Snopes also disallows copying & pasting:
Is the UN Arms Trade Treaty a 'legal way around the 2nd Amendment?'
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/untreaty.asp

fox, fwiw: The treaty covers battle tanks, armored combat vehicles, large-caliber artillery systems, combat aircraft, attack helicopters, warships, missiles and missile launchers, and small arms and light weapons. It prohibits states that ratify it from transferring conventional weapons if they violate arms embargoes or if they promote acts of genocide, crimes against humanity or war crimes.
.. The treaty would require countries that ratify it to establish national regulations to control the transfer of conventional arms and components and to regulate arms brokers, but it will not explicitly control the domestic use of weapons in any country.
.. The chance of adoption {ratification} by the US is slim.. A majority of Senate members have come out against the treaty. A 2/3 majority needed in the Senate to ratify.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/03/lawmakers-urge-obama-to-reject-un-arms-treaty-as-it-opens-for-signature/

United Nations: Sources of small arms supplies to areas of crisis and conflict are varied. Domestically, small arms can enter illicit circulation through distribution, theft, leakage, divergence, pilferage or resale. Shipments of small arms to conflict zones from abroad are most often small-scale consignments - a steady trickle of weapons across porous borders. The cumulative destabilizing force of such small-scale trade is not to be underestimated, particularly in unstable regions where small arms are traded from one conflict to another. Govts should ensure that small arms from Govt stocks or private ownership are not misused and do not enter illicit circuits, where their use may contribute to instability and to exacerbating poverty.
.. Countries are giving separate attention to closely related issues, such as armed violence, child soldiers, the protection of civilians in armed conflict, ammunition, the arms trade treaty and the UN register of conventional arms.
.. Most present-day conflicts are fought mainly with small arms, which are broadly used in inter-State conflict. They are the weapons of choice in civil wars and for terrorism, organized crime and gang warfare.
http://www.un.org/disarmament/convarms/SALW/

Wiki: U.N. decided to convene a Conference on {ATT} in 2012 "to elaborate a legally binding instrument on the highest possible common international standards for the transfer of conventional arms". The decisions was influenced by change in position of the {USA} (the largest arms producer and only country {previously} voting against resolution), which took place upon a change in leadership from GWBush to Obama..

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Response to jimmy the one (Original post)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 08:10 AM

2. "The most vocal groups opposing ATT..."

 

"...Heritage Fdtn. NRA and Gun Owners of America".

I'm in favor of ATT.

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 08:54 AM

5. nuther veiled bump

cooley: The most vocal groups opposing ATT..." "...Heritage Fdtn. NRA and Gun Owners of America".
I'm in favor of ATT


You wonder how far 2ndAmendment Mythology can go when it opposes world wide arms treaties in effort to thwart gang warfare & genocide in 3rd world countries & civilizations.
Maybe one more bump on saturday, please? then no more. Trying to get a decent sample.

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Response to jimmy the one (Original post)

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 08:48 AM

3. absolutely necessary nt

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Response to Deep13 (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 22, 2013, 05:45 PM

4. veiled bump

deep: absolutely necessary

Thanks Deep, I agree. Thanks for rec too.
Also 'bumping' since I'd like to get a better poll sample over the next week. I won't bump after sunday 28th tho, maybe a few more times, unless more readers reply.

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Response to jimmy the one (Original post)

Sat Jul 27, 2013, 04:44 PM

6. Last bump, thanks

Just wanted to give this poll exposure for a week - sunday thru sunday, thanks & no more bumps.

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