2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhen will Texas learn to vote in Democratic Progressives?
Will the average Texas voter ever learn that the GOP is ruining their life styles?
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Lifelong Texan here. I cannot fathom why ANYONE hasn't figured things out yet, but I still have local yokels every day condemning me for what I put on Facebook about women's rights, healthcare for all, etc.
Some people simply refuse NOT to be informed is all I can think of, because any thinking person is going to be able to figure it out and vote accordingly!
And these will be the same idiots who wake up ten years from now screaming, "Why didn't someone tell me this!!!"
Wendy Davis: Somebody has to step up.
http://www.texasmonthly.com/story/life-and-death-and-life-party
Parable Arable
(126 posts)Too much of it's population accepts people like Dubya, Gohmert, Perry, and Cruz as their leaders. Clearly the problem is bigger than just a few districts, and I don't believe that it's going to be a progressive stronghold anytime soon. Anyhow, I'd say the best course of action would be to gradually turn it blue through things like Immigration reform, and the establishment of more grassroots movements over there. The first step would be to make Texas a battleground state for presidential elections, followed by it becoming gradually more and more liberal.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)They are fully aware that Moses (New Testament) and Paul (Apostle of the Risen Christ in the New Testament) both taught separation of Church and State; that is Church or Faith and State or Law.
Cruz wants to demolish the IRS.
http://www.wfaa.com/news/politics/Dallas-congregation-cheers-Cruz-proposal-to-abolish-IRS-213765541.html
Does this mean, no tithe to the Church means no state and faith-based services for the poor? Theology seems to fit the Republican platform that instead of money to the IRS/Government, money one tenth will take over the needs of America? What a brainwashed crowd. In our economy, more and more people are leaving the Church because they have no tenth left over to give to a Church anymore. What a brainwashed bunch. Only Christ could cause three fish to turn in to enough food to feed thousands.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/07/11/house-republicans-drop-food-stamps-from-new-farm-bill/
hack89
(39,171 posts)Texas will never be a progressive state but they can be nudged to the left.
UserNSAv32
(54 posts)Moderate Democrats time and time again F up good liberal and progressive legislation.
Mod Dems are responsible for many of the economic problems this country faces.
People want a clear choice not 2 Pubs and having to pick the lessor of 2 evils.
hack89
(39,171 posts)or losing is ok as long as you remain pure.
UserNSAv32
(54 posts)So are you happy with the current economy?
The lessor of 2 evils is still evil and I will no longer support non liberal and non progressive dems. I am done with compromising my values.
vinny9698
(1,016 posts)They do not see the benefits of progressive ideas, mass transit, good schools, good roads, clean water, etc.
In the rural areas they have gravel roads, well water, isolation, racism, and inbreeding of thoughts. They hang out at their one diner drinking coffee and watching fox news.
DavidDvorkin
(19,473 posts)And the urbanization trend is ongoing and rapid.
Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)It's not the rural vote, those counties could vote 103% R and it wouldn't make much difference. And yes the cities could be bluer but Dems are still netting close to +100,000 votes in counties like Dallas and Travis (Austin) or the Rio Grande Valley metro area. It's the Montgomery counties of the state (the Woodlands etc) that are the killer blow, they just keep voting R R R like a broken record. Until Hispanics start reaching critical mass in the voting population the Dems are going to have to field candidates that will do better with the soccer-moms in the Woodlands or Plano if they want a shot. The special sessions did the Rs no favors, they seem to have galvanized the left and probably upset a number of their more tepid supporters. Whether it's enough to flip, say, the governor's seat in 2014 I'm not sure, if they had pulled the same stunt in 2018 I'd say absolutely if enough money flowed in. Rs are probably hoping that the courts will stop their ludicrous bills in their tracks as to minimize any fallout, but they had to pass them or the baggers back home would not have been happy campers.
illegaloperation
(260 posts)Texas has never been that progressive to begin with.
There will be Democrats, but they won't be progressive Democrats.
Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)I'd guess 7 to 10 years, maybe earlier if the Repubs keep drifting farther right
DFW
(54,341 posts)Ignorance is bliss, and Texas spends pitifully little on education. There aren't a whole lot of States with high concentrations of institutions of higher learning that vote Republican.
Also, the press in Texas is dominated by the right. What will save us eventually will be immigration and the slow erosion of the environment. That's a heavy indictment in itself, but that's the way it is in Texas. Not enough people yet are getting cancer from waste dumps, and not enough people yet have flammable methane coming out of their faucets. Texas will be a version of America in 2008. Things will have to deteriorate further before enough people realize they have been lied to and poorly led.
That having been said, there IS the strong Democratic push in the cities, and most TX Hispanics are with us. There's a reason Texas is so interested in voter suppression, and it's not to stop Republican Hispanics from registering to vote.
I was at a dinner in Dallas a few years ago where Jim Carville was the main speaker. The hall was packed. His first remark was, "When I was asked to speak before a gathering of the Texas Democrats, I thought I'd be giving this speech in a phone booth." A few hundred Texas Democrats, filling the room, laughed and cheered.
We'll get there some day. Ted Cruz, Louie Gohmert and Rick Perry will some day be recognized for the embarrassments they are/were, and the tide will turn. We are not Rhode Island. Things move slower in a big place like Texas.
To those who would lump us all in with Perry, Gohmert and Cruz instead of our idols like Molly Ivins, Ann Richards and her daughter Cecile, you can use your imagination as to which finger I would use to answer that. Just because we have an uphill battle doesn't mean we won't fight it, and we all get by a lot better with a little help from our friends rather than dumped upon because we're still in the minority down there.
Splinter Cell
(703 posts)BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)And it's not on the horizon.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)These reports about how that seditious state is turning blue are from either morans or moles
illegaloperation
(260 posts)Tarrant County, home to Fort Worth, is the bellwether. When it starts going blue, Democrats will be competitive at the state level.
That said, they will probably be the type of Democrats that like assault weapons with extended magazines.
Texas has never been progressive even back when it was blue.