2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWH rationale for chained CPI: if we don't do it, Paul Ryan will
You think I'm joking?
It makes his CPI plan seem like a major concession instead of the minor baby step Republicans claim it is.
Were not going to have the White House forever, folks. If he doesnt do this, Paul Ryan is going to do it for us in a few years, said a longtime Obama aide, referring to the 2012 Republican vice presidential candidate who proposed a sweeping overhaul of Medicare that would replace some benefits with vouchers.
Anxiety, not ideology prodded Obama to push for entitlement savings, people close to the president say. Obama has told people in his orbit that he feels squeezed by the rise of entitlement spending and sees it as a threat to getting anything else done, especially his plans for increased education and infrastructure spending.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/medicare-entitlements-obama-budget-muddle-chained-cpi-89844_Page2.html
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Ben Tre
tularetom
(23,664 posts)The Democratic campaign slogan for the 2014 congressional midterms. Has a nice ring to it don't ya think?
Autumn
(44,762 posts)It's not. Do they really think we are that fucking stupid as to accept that rational? More likely it's we had to cut SS now, because if a republican tries to do it in a few years Democrats will stop it. Fuck their noise.
BeyondGeography
(39,284 posts)Psst, Mr. President: You just beat Paul Ryan like a drum in a national election.
This is what happens when he has conversations with himself. We have seen this before. Nobody will play ball with him.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)monmouth3
(3,871 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)Oh well, I'm sure it's all part of clever plan to paint republicans as the party that wants to destroy social security by...oh, wait, he can't say that anymore can he?
Never mind.
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)forestpath
(3,102 posts)Vinnie From Indy
(10,820 posts)It is makes no sense. This idea is akin to FDR bombing Pearl Harbor because the Japanese were gonna do it eventually.
No, I think there is a larger gane afoot!
Cheers!
forestpath
(3,102 posts)ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...bad policy, bad morality, and bad politics.
If you don't want the chained CPI then don't offer it in your proposed budget! It's really that simple. Instead they tell us they have to offer it because the guys who LOST THE LAST ELECTION might do it some time in the future when they win.
Oddly, those guys don't offer the same kind of concessions to our side when they win and we lose.
So what is the point of winning an election, again?
Geez Louise this stuff gets old. You would think the bright boys and girls who run the White House could figure this stuff out.
Well of course I understand, they actually are bright and they actually have figured it out. The thing is, they WANT the chained CPI. They're just hand-waving so we won't notice. Only this time it's not working.
Assholes.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)please allow me to provide my prediction, as a seasoned negotiator, of President Obama (and his more seasoned team's) next move in these "negotiations":
President Obama (or maybe a Democratic legislator):
Now ... where does the gop go ... and not cement their "unwillingness to compromise" monicker with the solid plurarity of gop and independent voters (a solid majority when taken as a whole) that poll as having the gop being unwilling to compromise and President Obama (and Democrats being willing to compromise).
In order to flip the House (because of gerrymandering as a result of 2010), we need those groups to either stay home, vote 3rd-Party, or vote Democratic. In my estimation ... It 's all about 2014.