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Fri Mar 8, 2013, 11:12 PM

Jeb Bush and the 1986 Murder of CIA Drug Smuggler Barry Seal

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I am sure there are quite a few people at Democratic Underground who have heard about the 1986 murder of CIA Drug Smuggler in Baton Rouge on Feb. 19, 1986. This was before Iran-Contra affair blew wide open in the fall of 1986 with the downing of the plane that Eugene Hasenfus was aboard in Nicaragua

The murder of Barry Seal is a topic that Jeb Bush really, really, really does not want to talk about. And that is because there is an excellent possibility that the Bushes (VP GHW Bush & Jeb Bush) & Oliver North were behind the assassination of Barry Seal.

The 3 Colombians who were convicted of the Barry Seal murder were convinced that they were working for Lt. Col. Oliver North (whose code name in the 1980's was "John Cathey". GHW Bush's personal phone number was found in the possession of Barry Seal. Later it turned out that Governor of Texas George W. Bush was being flown around in Barry Seal's former and favorite plane.

Here is my blog post on this topic: http://barrysealmurder1986jebbusholivernorth.blogspot.com/

Here are some nuggets on Jeb Bush from Al Martin who worked closely with Jeb Bush and Oliver North on Iran-contra related (criminal) activities.

Al Martin conversation with Jeb Bush just days after the Feb, 1986 Murder of Barry Seal in Baton Rouge. Jeb Bush had been at a meeting in Sept, 1985, where the assassination of Barry Seal had been discussed

Al Martin: "In this discussion, I had mentioned the recent assassination, only a few days before, of Barry Seal Feb, 1986, outside his halfway house in New Orleans].

I said to Jeb, "Isn't it convenient that Barry Seal was assassinated when he was? And now suddenly all the information and documents he had are gone missing?"

Jeb had a rather broad smile on his face, and he concurred that it was convenient. He added a little snicker - as he often had a tendency of doing. Also little beads of sweat formed on his forehead, as when he gets nervous. It's something you can notice when he's on television. He still has a tendency to have little beads of sweat around his forehead, when he is either lying about something, or he's nervous about what someone is saying."
My conversations with Jeb at this meeting were overheard by the two Secret Service agents who were always assigned to Jeb when he was in his office at 1390 Brickell Avenue in Miami.
I had intimated that if certain parties in Washington were not prepared to come to my aid pursuant to my grand jury testimony, that it would be entirely possible that certain details of a certain meeting occurring in September of the year [Sept., 1985] before might be leaked out to the press.
Jeb asked me what I was talking about.
I specifically mentioned a September meeting of the Dade County Latin America Chamber of Commerce, which Jeb chaired, and which, of course, was not used as a Chamber of Commerce meeting at all. It was essentially used as a political meeting for covert operational planning pursuant to Iran-Contra.
As I've said before, Oliver North, Richard Secord or Dewey Clarridge or, in a few cases, even Sam Watson and Fred Ikley himself, would show up at these meetings.
Anyway, I had recounted to Jeb, as if he didn't know what the text of that meeting was that he chaired - the conversations he had with Oliver North and Richard Secord and Dewey Clarridge, all of whom attended that meeting.
Dewey seldom attended the meetings, but this time the four of them were discussing the assassination of Barry Seal and how it was to be carried out, since Barry was becoming an increasing liability.
I had told Jeb that I had substantial corroboration of that meeting. And I think Jeb understood what I meant.
It would certainly place him into a conspiracy to assassinate a CIA drug runner for the sake of political expediency.
When I was through speaking, Jeb became quiet and his demeanor became serious and changed. He became flushed, as he often does when he's frightened.
Jeb responded by telling me that it would be most unfortunate if I were to do that, since I might wind up like George Morales or Johnny Molina.
( Al Martin, "The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran-Contra Insider," p. 194-195)

Oliver North speaking to Jeb Bush and Dewey Clarridge in the 1980's: "Well, we haven't decided how we will rule his demise yet - whether it will be accident, natural causes, or suicide."

(Al Martin, "The Conspirators: Confessions of an Iran-Contra Insider," p.201)
"As I am a middle-aged man, I have worked or been involved in illegal covert operation of government all my adult life.
How many others in my age group can say they have personally known in their adult lifetimes almost 400 people who have died under clouded circumstances?
The common thread among the deaths of these 400 people was not anything they did - but what they knew.
I wonder how many others can make the same comment about their lives.
It's an indication of the type of life I've led.
Even what I have revealed thus far - it isn't a tenth of what I know. And it is such a task. That's the type of life I've led and what I know. I hope that the flavor of this comes out of what has happened to my friends, those I've known, who became inconvenient to their superiors and who died to maintain the deniability of others.
The egregious nature of the conspiracy surrounding their death goes to a level that is virtually humorous.
When Jeb Bush, Oliver North and Dewey Clarridge once spoke about an individual, North laughed and said, "Well, we haven't decided how we will rule his demise yet - whether it will be accident, natural causes, or suicide.""

(Al Martin, "The Conspirators: Confessions of an Iran-Contra Insider," p.201)

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Fri Mar 8, 2013, 11:14 PM

1. The George Herbert Walker Bush - Barry Seal relationship ... ended 2/19/86!!

Here is another nugget worth chewing on:

The George Herbert Walker Bush- Barry Seal Relationship

(Daniel Hopsicker, "Barry & the Boys: The CIA, The Mob and America's Secret History," pp. 375-376)

"Lewis Unglesby is today a prominent and very well connected Louisiana lawyer. At the time his name was daily on the front page of the state's newspapers., defending his long-time client and associate, Governor Edwin Edwards.
Unglesby had told us about a confrontation he had with Barry over the fact that Seal was keeping him in the dark about matters Unglesbly considered crucial to defending him...
"Barry pushed the phone across the desk to me and said, 'You wanna know what's going on? Here. Dial this number. Tell 'em you're me,' Unglesby related.
"When I did what he requested," he continued, "A female voice answered the phone, sayin' 'Vice President Bush's office, may I help you?'"
"I said, 'This is Barry Seal.' She asked me to wait while she transferred the call, which was immediately picked up by a man who identified himself as Admiral somebody or other, who said to me 'Barry, Where you been?'"
"That's when I told him that I wasn't Barry Seal, I was his lawyer," said Unglesby. "Immediately he slammed down the phone."
So why was Barry Seal murdered?" we asked Sharpstein.
"Unglesby said he had been with Seal when the IRS came and seized all his property," Sharpstein related. "The IRS man said, 'You owe us $30 million for the money you made in drug dealing.'
"Hey, I work for you," was Seal's reply. "We work for the same people."
"You don't work for us," the IRS agent stated. "We're the IRS."
"Unglesby was with Seal when he retired to a back roonm." Sharpstein stated. "He watched as Seal placed a call to George Bush. He heard Barry Seal tell Bush, 'If you don't get these IRS assholes off my back I'm going to blow the whistle on the Contra scheme."
Sharpstein spoke solemnly, aware of the gravity of his words..., "'That's why he's dead,' is what Unglesby said."
One week after the phone conversation between Barry Seal and George Bush, Seal was sentenced to a halfway house. Two weeks later he was dead.
"Barry Seal, you mean that agent that went bad?" Gordon Novel had casually inquired, when we'd posed the question of his associations with Seal.
An agent that 'goes bad,' as we understand intelligence industry trade jargon, is one who contemplates talking.
"Seal was gunned down, supposedly by those Colombians," says Sharpstein. "But they were fed information by the assholes in our government who wanted him dead."
The assassination of Barry Seal was very likely even not the first attempt on Seal's life by North, we were told by CIA electronics expert Red Hall, on the ground in Nicaragua with Seal on the Sandinista drug sting....
"The only thing I knew was the CIA had a lot to do with it (Barry's murder.) The killers were being directed by Oliver North at the time. It was the same thing Oliver North pulled on us down in Nicaragua."
"Then, I didn't know yet that Oliver North had it for Barry Seal, because he was working with Oliver at that particular point. We was undercover, and we were still down there (Nicaragua), when Oliver blew the whistle on us."
Chip Tatum, another covert operative who had known Seal and shared confidences with him, listened with amusement the first time we breathlessly relayed what we'd discovered: that Oliver North is guilty in the assassination of Barry Seal...
"No shit, Sherlock," he replied, laughing. "It ain't exactly the secret of the century, I can tell you."

(Daniel Hopsicker, "Barry & the Boys: The CIA, The Mob and America's Secret History," pp. 375-376)

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Sat Mar 9, 2013, 12:56 AM

2. Al Martin is not a reliable source

He tells far too many stories that can't be independently verified and at times just plain makes stuff up. I could be misremembering, but I believe he was the source of the completely false claim that Karl Rove was the grandson of a Nazi named Roverer.

Daniel Hopsicker, on the other hand, is a genuine investigator.

But my understanding is that the real dirt on Jebbie has to do with his connections with the Cubans. The stories below are from 1992, 1998, and 2002 -- before a lot of things got swept under the rug.




On edit: That second link isn't showing up properly because of the "@" in the middle, but if you copy and paste it in a new tab, it will work fine.

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Sat Mar 9, 2013, 01:05 AM

3. I read everythng at the top link. Lots of fascinating info; stuff I'd heard before; some I hadn't

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Sat Mar 9, 2013, 01:56 AM

4. The MSM has not even come CLOSE to describing Bush criminality

There is a minority of JFK assassination researchers who are convinced GHW Bush was involved in the JFK assassination due to his longtime CIA connections and involvement with anti-Castro Cubans since before the Bay of Pigs.

Then there was the corruption of the 1980 campaign when the Reagan campaign, William Casey & GHW Bush made a dirty deal with the Iranians to NOT release the American hostages until after the general election. That has been well documented from every angle; consider the "October Surprise" treasonous dealings with Iran to be a fact, not a mere theory.

Then there was Iran-Contra and both the media and the government suppressed a scandal of epic proportions: that the government/Reagan Administration was engaged in gargantuan drug smuggling all the while Nancy Reagan was "just saying no" to drugs.

And, unfortunately for you Clinton lovers out there, the Clintons and the Bushes and CIA/Oliver North were ALL up to their eyeballs in the drug trade. Sad but true. Read the book "Compromised: Clinton, Bush and the CIA" and you will never look at modern American politics in the same way again.

Then there was the 1992 campaign - google "Chip Tatum Pegasus" to learn how desperate GHW Bush was in that campaign over the Ross Perot threat. Perot was aware of an incensed by the govt. drug running of the 1980's and had a huge falling out with GHW Bush over this.

Then there is the 1986 murder of Barry Seal, which a rational person would think the Bushes and Oliver North were behind that.

Then there is Jeb Bush getting a release from jail for an anti-Castro Cuban terrorist Orlando Bosch who blew up a plane one time and murdered everyone on it. Jeb got Bosch out of jail to curry favor with Florida's community of anti-Castro Cubans.

"Most controversially, at the request of Jeb, Mr Bush Sr intervened to release the convicted Cuban terrorist Orlando Bosch from prison and then granted him US residency.

According to the justice department in George Bush Sr's administration, Bosch had participated in more than 30 terrorist acts. He was convicted of firing a rocket into a Polish ship which was on passage to Cuba. He was also implicated in the 1976 blowing-up of a Cubana plane flying to Havana from Venezuela in which all 73 civilians on board were killed.

CIA memorandums strongly suggest, according to Bardach's book, that Bosch was one of the conspirators, and quotes the then secretary of state, Henry Kissinger, as writing that the "US government had been planning to suggest Bosch's deportation before Cubana airlines crash took place for his suspected involvement in other terrorist acts and violation of his parole".

Bosch's release, often referred to in the US media as a pardon, was the result of pressure brought by hardline Cubans in Miami, with Jeb Bush serving as their point man. Bosch now lives in Miami and remains unrepentant about his militant activities, according to Bardach."

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Sat Mar 9, 2013, 03:09 AM

5. OMG


When did alex jones join?

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Sat Mar 9, 2013, 05:54 AM

7. I think there's a lot more to this than you give credit for.....

where there's smoke, there's fire. It might not ALL be true, but there's something rotten in Denmark....uh....Florida.

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Sat Mar 9, 2013, 04:37 AM

6. bookmarked

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Sat Mar 9, 2013, 09:04 AM

8. Thanks, Morrow. +1 rec.

Barry's name and photo recently popped up on a subthread by a DU post-er named green for victory:


Thanks for the link to your blog post, also. I don't know Al Martin, but I saw a lot of good info on your post, and liked your reading list, too. There's no doubt that Jeb is like the other swinish bushes, he's a 'narked up terrorist type of guy'. The apple didn't fall far from the 'Poppy' bush.

I can see why the repugs might regard him as a paragon of virtue and an elder statesman.

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Sat Mar 9, 2013, 01:05 PM

9. 8/31/12 email that I got from former Miami court reporter Patricia Anderson

The Cali Colombians who murdered Barry Seal were doing it at the behest of Oliver North who was doing it at the behest of GHW Bush & Jeb Bush and perhaps a few others in CIA/military intelligence. And that is because CIA drug smuggler Barry Seal was a threat to plea bargain down in Louisiana and expose Bush involvement in Iran-Contra and CIA drug running in general to support the Nicaraguan contras.

By the fall of 1986, Iran-Contra blew wide open anyhow because of the plane that Eugene Hasenfus was on got shot down over Nicaragua.

I am a JFK assassination researcher and I have an email list I send out my political posts to. Last summer after I sent out one on the Barry Seal murder, I got this reply back from a Patricia Anderson (dated 8/31/12) who used to be a court reporter in Miami. Patricia has not been willing to be interviewed further.

Mr. Morrow:

re "Barry and the Boys" email of recent, it is with some import, i believe that i share with you some information on Barry Seals' premature death and how that may well have developed. As an official court reporter in Miami, Florida in 1986, i was called upon to stenographicly record a 'closed hearing' of a matter relating to the dispositon of a case pending against Barry Seals that occurred in the Dade County Courthouse, and of which Mr. Richard Sharpstein may or may not have been present, at the moment i do not recall... am certain his memory on that will be more accurate than mine, but am fairly certain he was in attendance...

Within that hearing it was determined that Mr. Seals would be placed in a halfway house in Louisiana, and the exact location to remain unpublished to any and all, although the exact address was dictated into the official record. This reporter, if i recall correctly, was instructed by the judge to NOT transcribe that address into the transcript of the proceeding, and said direction was followed by this reporter.

Some days after the transcript was delivered to the various parties, I was contacted by phone by a man who claimed to be the attorney for barry seals' wife, and that she had been trying to locate him for sometime, that they had the transcript but the address had been deleted, and that he wished to obtain that address from me. Of course, that request was declined, and per judge's order, and for security reasons as well, because it was known that barry's life had been threatened. The attorney insisted on speaking with my supervisor, and he demanded from him that i divulge the address to him, the supervisor, after receiving notice of the judge's order to seal that portion of the record, declined the attorney's request.

Some short time later the wife's attorney, with the wife in tow, came to the reporting office wherein i was employed and again made demands for the release of that address, the wife imploring to this reporter how much she loved her husband, how much she missed him, and how desperately she needed to contact him right away. Though we did empathize with her stated position, it was not our decision to close that portion of the record, and it would require a judge's order to release it to her. Again some days passed, and there was continued contact between the wife's attorney and my then supervisor in attempt to require me to provide them the address of Barry Seals, which of course said request was continued to be declined by me.

Attempts by them to have the judge vacate his order failed, much ado was made by them, and eventually extra-judicial interventions were made through various federal agencies, and my supervisor, to the best of my memory, was being contacted by one Oliver North, who demanded we provide him the address. As I recall, Mr. North visited our office and was personally provided with the address of Barry Seals' halfway house, and as read directly from my notes under order of my direct supervisor. I do believe it was the very next day that we heard that Barry Seals had met a sudden and vicious death. It is my belief that this release of the address to these individuals is what led to the almost immediate death of Barry Seals. And taken with other events occurring in that time span, I can say with almost absolute certainty that is what transpired, and it does date back and is connected also to the death of JFK.

And as I am writing this now, I am almost certain it was Richard Sharpstein who was in that hearing room at the time, in addition to various other attorneys representing various of the parties. Though I do not recall which judge, I am certain Mr. Sharpstein will recall that.

patricia anderson

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Sat Mar 9, 2013, 02:30 PM

10. Dubya sure does like his trophies, doesn't he?

Years later, Texas Gov. George W. Bush was literally being flown around in what had been the favorite plane of the murdered CIA asset and drug runner Barry Seal

And his infamous pride & joy from Saddam Hussein:

For nearly five years, Mr. Bush kept the mounted, glass-encased pistol in the Oval Office or a study, showing it with pride, especially to military officials, they said. He also let visitors in on a secret: when the pistol was recovered, it was unloaded.

George W. Bush Presidential Library (left); Associated Press

Former President George W. Bush has long prized the gun seized when Saddam Hussein was captured hiding in a hole in the ground in Iraq in 2003.
Published: July 5, 2009

“We were getting ready to leave the Oval Office, and he told us, ‘Wait a minute, guys, I want to show you something,’ ” recalled Pete Hegseth, the chairman of Vets for Freedom, who described a July 2007 visit. “The president moved back into his private study and he came out with the gun, inside this glass case. He said, ‘The Delta guys pulled it off Saddam.’ He was very proud of it.”

Mr. Bush also showed Mr. Hegseth another item: a brick from the Iraq safe house where the Qaeda leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was killed by an American air strike in 2006.


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Sat Mar 9, 2013, 06:05 PM

11. Bookmarked for later reading!

Thanks for the thread. I read Mara Leveritt's "The Boys on the Tracks" a few months ago which detailed Seals alleged involvement in the deaths of those two Arkansas teens. Leveritt claims to have FBI reports of covert CIA commandos training in the woods and mountains around Mena. Im amazed that Clinton, as governor of Arkansas at the time, claimed no knowledge of what was going on in his state. ...even as the whole operation was conducted "covertly" by the CIA/Bush Administration.

There is much more that went on over there, and no telling the far ranging and powerful conspirators involved in all of that mess if a true and complete accounting of it is ever brought to light. As an air traffic controller I was very familiar with Mena Airport, Barry Seal's base of operations in the North Arkansas Ozarks. Mara's book really piqued my fascination with the whole Barry Seal story. I can't wait to find the time to explore your links! Thanks again!

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Sat Mar 9, 2013, 08:08 PM

15. The "Boys on the Tracks" is an excellent book

The boys were killed by local law enforcement that was in the drug trade with the CIA.

"The Immaculate Deception: Bush Crime Family Exposed by Russell S. Bowen" is the best book ever written on the Bushes and that includes "Family of Secrets" by Russ Baker.

There is web page dedicated to the investigation of the murder of Kevin Ives and Don Henry. Bill Clinton and Fahmy Malik helped cover up that murder because it was CIA drug related & Sabine law enforcement related. In other words, criminals in law enforcement and the drug trade murdered those boys.

Check out this web page called "ID Files" http://www.idfiles.com/

"There were CIA operatives who took advantage of the protection their positions gave them, and they participated in saturating our country with drugs. Kevin and Don were victims of this atrocious crime, and it is up to us to expose those responsible."

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Sat Mar 9, 2013, 07:17 PM

12. If you want to read a good book, the I reccomend

The Immaculate Deception: Bush Crime Family Exposed by Russell S. Bowen

Perhaps the most shocking book written this century about treason committed by the highest leaders within the US government. This disturbing and thought-provoking expose is written by Brigadier General Russell S Bowen who has courageously come forward with the truth about his association with the OSS (Office of Security Services) and his 'drug running' activities on behalf of the 'secret' government which involves the highest US 'leaders' and which few Americans know anything about. The most startling details are revealed regarding Bowen's clandestine work including his work under the orders of George Bush.

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Sat Mar 9, 2013, 07:31 PM

13. Bush the original terrorist family

It is one of the most difficult things to talk about, that is the full implication of the American Bush family as a terror plotting entity in war profiteering. It appears to be a most difficult issue to grind out, besides being politically damaging to the Republican Party which from my point of view is totally immersed in Wahhabi money.

The Bush family has been business partners with the Arab Bin Laden family for several decades. Please understand I have no axe to grind with the Bush family, however it is more and more obvious that the media and political people are hiding the truth from America where as Bush and Company have committed political acts of treason over and over again to the point where it is insane to wildly antithetical to the constitution.

These articles are overwhelming to point out the Bush crime family has perpetrated over many decades. History goes back to Prescott Bush in financing the Nazi during WW ll. The implications are staggering but yet the legal Congressional, Senate, or CIA, FBI, or many of the upper military echelon likely legions are paid off deeply, or intimidated to compliance along with key players in mainstream media.

With that said America can never have a Golden Age of prosperity and contentment with a full value of knowledge that these crimes have to be exposed with indictments and convictions to resolve the violated laws. Plus as long as Arab Wahhabi money is in play there will always be someone take it to help a cover up.

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Sat Mar 9, 2013, 07:33 PM

14. And Knowing All This Will Change What About America?


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Sat Mar 9, 2013, 11:30 PM

16. Bill Clinton's famous quote to L.D. Brown: "And your buddy Bush knows all about it!"

I do think the truth is important no matter when it comes out: 25 years later, 100 years later or 1,000 years later. The truth is important.

But there is a reason the ugly truth about Iran-Contra has been suppressed: it directly affected both political parties at the highest levels - the Bushes and the Clintons.

Both were involved up to their eyeballs in CIA drug smuggling to fund the Nicaraguan contras - and no doubt skim to some off for themselves.

Having said that I think it is extremely important the Jeb Bush be held accountable for his possible or even probable participation in the 1986 murder of Barry Seal.

Here are some quotes from L.D. Brown who was Bill Clinton's favorite state trooper and who Bill Clinton got into the CIA. L.D. Brown was an honest man and he was STUNNED to find out that Barry Seal, his CIA handler, was running cocaine. Stunned.

L.D. Brown happened to be a big fan of GHW Bush. Why I do not know, but he was. Here are some excerpts from Brown's book and note the his mention of the infamous Felix Rodriguez, a known Bush CIA associate. The code name for Rodriguez in the 1980's was "Max Gomez."

Barry Seal was a crazy man. He was also everything Dan Magruder [Donald Gregg, an aide to GHW Bush] was not. Happy-go-lucky, irreverent and loud, Seal telephoned me and told me he was the man I was told would call me. It was the mid-1980's and with the decadence of that time and the free-flowing cocaine, Cajun's Wharf was a hangout for the bond daddies such as Lasater and company. ...
(L.D. Brown, "Crossfire," pp.102-103)

The first words out of Seal's mouth, "How's the Guv?" reminded me of Magruder's apparent familiarity with Bill. An overweight, jovial, almost slap-happy man as my contact with C.I.A. was not exactly what I expected. Seal, too, knew everything about me. He focused on my D.E.A. training as Magruder had done in Dallas.
(L.D. Brown, "Crossfire," pp.104)

"Seal reached back to open the duffel bag in the back. He removed a manila envelope identical to the one he had given me after the first trip. I knew what was in the envelope but there was something else. He reached deeper in the bag and gave me the shock of my life.
Seal's face had a sly, smirkly, almost proud look as he removed a waxed paper-wrapped taped brick-shaped package from the bag. I immediately recognized it as identical to bricks of cocaine from my days in narcotics. I didn't know what to think and began demanding to know what was going on. I cursed, ranted and raved and I believe I actually caused Seal to wonder if I might pull a gun and arrest him. Seal threw up his hands and tried to calm me down saying everything was all right and quickly exited my car. He removed the bag from the bag and hustled back toward the plane.
I at once felt a sense of panic and relief that Seal was gone. Had he left something in the car? Was I about to be surrounded by the police? Wait a minute I was the police and furthermore this was an operation sanctioned by the C.I.A and I was recruited by them - and by Bill Clinton. [...] I would become furious with Bill for shepherding me through this mess, indeed for getting me involved. I would then as quickly think of explaining it all away as a 'sting' operation designed to trap the people on the other end of our flight who maybe had sold drugs to Seal. [...]
(L.D. Brown, "Crossfire," pp.113-114)

The tension was building up inside me as I saw Bill coming out the back door. I was getting mad all over again as I got out of my car and he strode over to me. It was the first time we talked since the trip, the trip he knew I was going to take. His mouth opened and the words "You having fun yet?" were already forming on his lips when I burst out, "Do you know what they are bringing back on those airplanes?" He immediately threw up his hands in a halting fashion and took a couple of steps back. I know he thought he was in danger of receiving a class A state police ass-whipping. My hopes of an innocent explanation to the whole sordid affair were dashed with the now-famous line, "That's Lasater's deal! That's Lasater's deal!" he whined as if he had just taken a tongue lashing by Hillary. "And your buddy (Vice President George Herbert Walker) Bush knows about it!"
Bill had done to me what I had seen him to do so many other people. I, too, had now been used and severely betrayed. I immediately ran to Becky, who lived in a small house on the mansion grounds. I told her of the incident and cried with the pain it caused me.
(L.D. Brown, "Crossfire: Witness in the Clinton Investigation, p. 116)

But I was not done with the C.I.A. In early 1985, I received a telephone call from a man at the Mansion who identified himself as Felix Rodriguez. A man who claimed he was Barry Seal's boss. He asked if he could come to Arkansas and meet me and I agreed. Could it have been that Seal was doing drug transports on his own? I was more curious than anything else and had to find out. Rodriguez was the man to tell me.
Felix Rodriguez is a Cuban-American with a long history of intelligence work. He had telephoned me at the Mansion and wanted to meet me there in the parking lot. When he arrived, he drove in the back gate as if he had been there before. We sat in his rental car and shook hands. Felix was a polished, articulate man and it was obvious he did not like Seal. He had already been told by someone about my experiences with Seal and was obviously upset with what Seal had done. I am still puzzled over how Rodriguez found out about the incident. When I telephoned C.I.A. personnel in Dallas I never mentioned what had happened with Seal. It must have come from Bill through whomever his contact at the Agency was. Rodriguez made me feel comfortable. He had C.I.A. credentials which he showed me. "Don't worry about him. We'll take care of him," is how he assured me of the 'problem' with Seal. Indeed Seal would die a violent death a year later- at the hands of whom is still a point of controversy in some circles.

(L.D. Brown, "Crossfire: Witness in the Clinton Investigation, p. 118)

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Sun Mar 10, 2013, 02:14 AM

17. Locking, sorry, this is conspiracy theory and would do better in the Creative Speculation forum

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