Tue Dec 25, 2012, 01:47 PM
DonViejo (26,130 posts)
Conservatives ponder their losses. On a boat!
by Hunter for Daily Kos
In the wake of a dismal election, conservatives took a moment to have a gigantic sad. On a boat!
It was day five of the National Review magazine’s Post Election Cruise 2012, and the GOP’s recent problems were, mercifully, about 760 nautical miles away. The cruise, featuring the star columnists of William Buckley’s 57-year-old conservative biweekly, had been planned long in advance, and everybody had believed it would be a victory party. An e-mail from the magazine’s publisher arrived a few days before we embarked: “Do not despair or fret. At least not next week.”
Onboard the Nieuw Amsterdam, no one could follow his advice. “Who sent Obama here to destroy America?” a fiftysomething woman asked me one evening over dinner, as if it were a perfectly reasonable question. And here onboard the cruise ship, it was. If the Nieuw Amsterdam was a kind of ark of American alienation, at least it was an eminently comfortable one.
Scooting past such conservative high points as Guantanamo and the Cayman Islands (who booked this thing?), the whole affair seems a perfect encapsulation of the modern conservative movement. A bunch of aging, decently well off white people get on a boat, play the slots for a while, and complain about what the country has come to:
“Minorities came out like crazy,” said , sighing. “White people didn’t get to the polls. There are far more African-Americans voting than they expected.”
“I was in the middle of the fight against the propaganda, and I have stories like you wouldn’t believe. These people are so evil. They’re basically Fascists. It’s unbelievable.”
(His advice was to invest in Polish real estate, if you wanted to know.)
Rasmussen offered some friendly advice about approaching minorities. “You show them that you really care, you talk to them as grown-ups on a range of issues, you get them involved,” he suggested, “and you accept the fact that it’s a long-term investment. And you accept that you can learn as much from them as you can teach them.”
This was harsh medicine to reluctant patients, and afterward some of them made their discomfort known. “That depressed me!” one woman said. To my right, a man snapped, “That’s bullshit!”
It makes for a good read, at least. It is well known that one of the circles of hell is "cruise ship"; take the available escalator and you can go down to the next one, "cruise ship full of grumpy conservatives." (Perhaps the only thing keeping the whole escapade from ending in an outbreak of Legionnaires' Disease was the attendees' own deep aversion to military service.)
It also seems that the party strategists and other movers are no closer to edging their own base away from the current crop of conspiracy theories and crabby racism, much less towards anything more productive. Still, it makes you think. Maybe there will be cruise ship conservatism as a way of life, in the distant future? A new seafaring, rapidly aging population no longer comfortable with the scandalously 1990-ish tax rates and ever-so-slightly better health insurance provided in New America, but also unable to set down roots anywhere else. Because, after all:
“Jamaica is a dump!” complained Veronique Rodman, a spokeswoman for the American Enterprise Institute.
Classic. Simply classic.
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 01:58 PM
RKP5637 (44,635 posts)
2. It's nice to see they set sail to find a new land, because their authoritative ultra-conservatism is
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no longer welcome in America IMO. They need to go back under the rock, where many were, before their grotesque savior Reagan appeared and destroyed America for "we the people."
Response to DonViejo (Original post)
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 05:15 PM
cecilfirefox (784 posts)
6. It's unbelievable the little fantasy/alternate reality these people live in.
They have no, I mean NO conceptualization of the direction of the country or the general pulse of the people. This past two years had Liberals squalling that Neo-cons were living in a 'bubble' or high on top of bullshit mountain. And the election totally vindicated us, 100%. All the polls pointed to Obama leading Romney, Romney being squarely behind- yet they still convinced themselves that Romney was going to win with the electoral map of the President's victory, essentially, such that Mittens didn't even take the time to write a concession speech.
It's practically pathetic. They are so close to becoming completely and utterly national uncompetitive.