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forgotmylogin

(7,593 posts)
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:08 PM Jan 2017

"But...don't you want to support the President for the good of the country?"

What example do I have to follow? The Republicans didn’t want Obama to be a great President; they succeeded in obstructing a good deal of his agenda, then when he managed to take a giant (if not perfect) step forward in providing healthcare for Americans who didn’t have it, they spent $87 million dollars petulantly trying to vote to repeal it over fifty times.

They stole a Supreme Court nomination from him by not even voting on his completely reasonable nominee. During his term. For a year.

Republicans gleefully frame the Obama years as a complete failure; an outright string of lies that serves to set the bar low as possible for the inevitable next Republican President.

And then they give us Donald Trump, who won the election despite being the most inappropriate candidate qualification-wise, and a reprehensibly spoiled, narcissistic, antipathic human being in general, who bullied his way into the nomination. For doing so, they win both houses and complete control of the government.

Cooperation with the opposing party is apparently not how you win elections. “Let’s come together in our desire to destroy all the progress we’ve made in the 20th century” is not an acceptable olive branch.

No. I don’t want to support Trump and his policies, and by proxy the Republican agenda in any way. The Republicans have shown us that you don’t support a President who isn’t from your party even when they desire to move humanity forward. If they state the sky is blue, you engage in 24-hour news-channel propaganda to flood the concept that their truth is a lie. You sabotage them via obstruction, outright lies, and throwing broken glass in the path of every piece of legislation that benefits their agenda. Their agenda is screwing America for the benefit of the rich and privileged. My preferred agenda is improving the quality of life for all.

I’d be sullenly relieved to be proven wrong if America thrives in the next four years in some strange reverse-psychology ploy, but I’m not going to give Trump or his ilk any help or support with their blatantly inhumanitarian goals and methods that I disagree with "for the good of the country".

The Republicans have taught me that's how you win.

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"But...don't you want to support the President for the good of the country?" (Original Post) forgotmylogin Jan 2017 OP
Case by case basis HassleCat Jan 2017 #1
I'll be glad for any progressive legislation he gets through. forgotmylogin Jan 2017 #2
I'm with you, jack69 Jan 2017 #7
In Trump's case....... DFW Jan 2017 #3
THIS! get the red out Jan 2017 #4
Also agree with this jack69 Jan 2017 #8
I think their instincs are baser than that DFW Jan 2017 #10
+22,386 Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #14
I'm with you, DFW. Paladin Jan 2017 #17
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2017 #18
I am treating Trump the same way the GOPee treated Obama. muntrv Jan 2017 #5
Fck MFM008 Jan 2017 #6
They should be given the same cooperation jack69 Jan 2017 #9
IF he proposes something good for the country, ill support it. dionysus Jan 2017 #11
If I think Trump has done anything for the good of the country. hamsterjill Jan 2017 #12
My new motto jeffreyi Jan 2017 #13
The good of the country Bettie Jan 2017 #15
This colsohlibgal Jan 2017 #21
Sure I want to, but I doubt I will be able to support much of what he wants to do... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #16
I'll give Trump the same respect the repukes gave Obama meow2u3 Jan 2017 #19
I'll be happy to support any policy I think is in the best interests of the country. Adrahil Jan 2017 #20

forgotmylogin

(7,593 posts)
2. I'll be glad for any progressive legislation he gets through.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:32 PM
Jan 2017

But I'm not holding my breath, and good things do not necessarily negate evil things.

jack69

(163 posts)
7. I'm with you,
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:27 PM
Jan 2017

but am not holding my breath. It had better be really spectacular and self sacrificing on his part, which won't happen.

DFW

(55,222 posts)
3. In Trump's case.......
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:37 PM
Jan 2017

Supporting the president and the good of the country are at opposite ends of the spectrum.

jack69

(163 posts)
8. Also agree with this
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:31 PM
Jan 2017

because we all know the welfare of the country is not the main concern of the Trumpets or the Tea partiers. However, if they go beyond their petty concerns and show they are truly invested in the lowest of all of us, I might give them a kudo. We know that will never happen, only to save their political chances.

DFW

(55,222 posts)
10. I think their instincs are baser than that
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:36 PM
Jan 2017

If Trump should end up making a gesture to acknowledge the plight of "the lowest of all of us," as you aptly put it, it won't be for the purpose of saving anyone's political chances, but rather to preserve the ego-boosting accolades he hopes to garner for his greater self-aggrandizement.

hamsterjill

(15,323 posts)
12. If I think Trump has done anything for the good of the country.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 04:05 PM
Jan 2017

I'll first have my head examined, and then I'll wait a while for all of the facts to come out. Because I don't trust anything that he does unless it is something that is good for Trump. Just like the Carrier deal, what appears to be at first is not necessarily what the real deal is.

Bettie

(16,455 posts)
15. The good of the country
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 04:41 PM
Jan 2017

is served by resisting this piece of trash and all the things that he (well, Ryan/McConnell) wants done.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
21. This
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 11:26 PM
Jan 2017

He did not really win and is no more qualified for this job than the average person on the street. This is a travesty.

Wounded Bear

(59,296 posts)
16. Sure I want to, but I doubt I will be able to support much of what he wants to do...
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 08:11 PM
Jan 2017

and certainly will not support what the Repub Congress wants to do.

As an American I reserve the right to disagree with people whose intent seems to be to turn this country into a 3rd world oligarchy.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
20. I'll be happy to support any policy I think is in the best interests of the country.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 10:26 PM
Jan 2017

I don't expect to see much of that under Trump.

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