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Farmgirl1961

(1,643 posts)
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 10:46 AM Dec 2016

From Daily Kos: State of the Recount: Michigan halted, hearing in PA, WI 70% complete (accurate?)

State of the Recount: Michigan halted, hearing in PA, WI 70% complete

In Michigan a ruling from a federal judge has ended any real hope of a complete recount.

A recount that started Monday ended Wednesday night. U.S. District Judge Mark Goldsmith set aside his earlier order that got the recount moving, acting after the state appeals court said Stein doesn’t qualify as an “aggrieved” candidate under Michigan law.
The initial order from Judge Goldsmith promised he would review his decision if there was a ruling from the state court. There was. He did. It’s over.

A federal judge’s ruling that effectively halted Michigan’s presidential recount after three days assures Republican Donald Trump’s narrow victory in the state.
Considering Michigan’s ruling that districts with even one ballot difference between paper ballots and reported totals couldn’t be counted knocked out over 370 districts in the Detroit area alone, it’s not clear that a recount would have actually addressed any genuine issues.

In Wisconsin the count is 70 percent complete, but it hasn’t produced much difference in the outcome.


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http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/12/8/1608635/-State-of-the-Recount-Michigan-halted-hearing-in-PA-WI-70-complete

Is there more to the story in Michigan, or is this accurate? What about in WI and PA? Anyone have other information to share on the recount effort?

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From Daily Kos: State of the Recount: Michigan halted, hearing in PA, WI 70% complete (accurate?) (Original Post) Farmgirl1961 Dec 2016 OP
I thought the 6th Court approved the recount. DK504 Dec 2016 #1
They didn't FBaggins Dec 2016 #3
WI accurate jodymarie aimee Dec 2016 #2
It won't matter MichMary Dec 2016 #9
Palmer report has some news California_Republic Dec 2016 #4
Bill is that you? Welcome to DU Ellipsis Dec 2016 #6
PA is probably not going anywhere FBaggins Dec 2016 #5
Disparate impact of the Michigan Law exboyfil Dec 2016 #7
Do PA and WI matter anymore? MichMary Dec 2016 #8
Yes and no FBaggins Dec 2016 #10
What were the WI predictions before the election and what about the exit polls? Farmgirl1961 Dec 2016 #11
I think they were predicting that Wisconsin would go for Hillary MichMary Dec 2016 #12
Both were about the same FBaggins Dec 2016 #13

FBaggins

(27,644 posts)
3. They didn't
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 11:18 AM
Dec 2016

They said that whether to recount was a state law/court issue, but that when to start it was within the circuit court's discretion

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
2. WI accurate
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 11:18 AM
Dec 2016

In my county I think she gained 48 more votes. The biggees will be Milw and the WOW counties. 3 Strong R counties where they have cheated before.

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
9. It won't matter
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:12 PM
Dec 2016

regardless of what happens in those counties. With Michigan's recount thwarted, there is no way Hillary can get to 270 electoral votes.

FBaggins

(27,644 posts)
5. PA is probably not going anywhere
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 11:21 AM
Dec 2016

With the deadline looming, I don't see a court scheduling a hearing three days later unless the court didn't expect it to go anywhere.

exboyfil

(17,987 posts)
7. Disparate impact of the Michigan Law
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 11:30 AM
Dec 2016

For a recount it should be based on percentages and not one vote difference. It is a whole lot easier to have accurate records for 500 voters than 10,000 voters for example. They should allow one vote off for 500 for example, and 20 for the 10,000.

Also the number of voters per voting machines should be equal. Combine precincts if necessary and make someone travel. All funding should be done by the state, and funds should be equal per voter.

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
8. Do PA and WI matter anymore?
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:11 PM
Dec 2016

We needed to overturn the results in ALL THREE STATES to change the outcome of the election. If Michigan is over, there is no way for Hillary to win.

FBaggins

(27,644 posts)
10. Yes and no
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 12:19 PM
Dec 2016

One state would be enough if we could show clear signs that the election was stolen. That might open other states up to scrutiny (perhaps legal/criminal processes rather than standard recounts).

However - if the election was stolen, then WI had to be part of it, and the recount there is almost complete (and looks clean)

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
12. I think they were predicting that Wisconsin would go for Hillary
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:35 PM
Dec 2016

And that the exit polls showed she was winning. But, I don't know if the exit polls would account for all the tiny little towns where people were coming out of the woodwork to vote for Trump. I have lived in small towns my whole life, and have never seen an exit poller, ever.

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