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Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:25 PM

 

My dearest cousin has Trumpgrets over his vote for Trump

My poor cousin is now regretting his vote for Trump. He apparently watched the news and was shocked to discover that Trump and the Republicans have plans to dismantle his beloved Social Security and Medicare. After calling my mother in a panic, he asked if it was legal for Trump to be messing around with Medicare. She told him that he has the whitehouse, the senate, and the house, so yes, he can take your shit.

He is having issues coming to terms with this. His hatred of Obama caused him to refuse to call his phone an obamaphone, because Obama is a Muslim. Not that I have ever seen my cousin crack a bible or visit one church in his entire life, but he all of a sudden became a quasi crusader for the faith during the Obamanation.

I Refuse to give him any sympathy for his choice. I told him to prepare for the worst and that he might have to move to Mexico to get his meds. This is what hate does to the mind. It makes people stupid.

No matter what I said about Trump, his plans, how democrats are the party that helps him survive day to day, he refused to believe one mf word I said. Nothing worked. I even promised King Trump would take his medicare and SSI and every damn thing else, nope. He resisted. Because Obama only loves muslims and Mexicans. He says he is done with Fox News, lol.


How the hell are we supposed to craft a message to get through to idiots like him? We can't! They MUST feel the pain that they wanted to heap on everyone else before they will ever ever ever consider that maybe they were wrong. It was not our messaging. It was his voters.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:29 PM

1. Your cousin sounds like a peach O_o

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Response to JHan (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:30 PM

2. Oh he is

 

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Response to bravenak (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 09:13 PM

81. "They must feel the pain", otherwise we're enabling the addiction. They have to "hit bottom"

I have too many family members where this is the only thing that sometimes helped. No more saving them, no more covering for them, no more enabling them in any way. They're on their own. We refused to be damaged and taken advantage of by them. Same with Trump voters, as far as I'm concerned.

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Response to SharonAnn (Reply #81)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 09:41 PM

85. That is pretty much all we can do

 

Let them see what it feels like to play with fire. It burns. They might not believe it burns; trump says it feels GREAT, so they start the fire. This is the consequense of burning your own house down.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #85)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 10:54 PM

93. This is why Trump's election didn't depress me like it did many folks.

 

"W"'s disastrous reign should have finished the GOP. Instead, they felt they had the right to criticize Obama? Who saved us from the results of "W"s incompetence?

The country needs more lessons of how terrible Republicans are when they are in power.

Trump is just the person to deliver that lesson.

Sure, the next 4-8 years will be awful with some aftermath but ultimately it will deliver that lesson to a great many people.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #93)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 11:46 PM

94. I agree. I feel more positive these days

 

We do not have to spend four years on defense, they do. This will be worse than Bush for us and for the republican party. Trump is fucked up in the head, way worse than the other ones before him. Worse than Nixon

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Response to bravenak (Reply #94)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 11:54 PM

95. You said a mouth full when you said

 

"We do not have to spend four years on defense"

Many of you will never be able to fully get how much of a slog it had become going out there and being on the public front lines fighting every ridiculous smear any right wing pundit could dream up about our President.

Playing offense against someone who really has no idea what they are doing is going to be fun for a change.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #95)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 12:06 PM

132. Yes! We will be on offense...

We will dog him at every turn. He is unqualified to shine our shoes. The trumpers will be facing the reality of their decision very soon, if not already. GOP hates government because they are constant failures at government administration.

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Response to david4justice49 (Reply #132)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 06:02 PM

153. And when they interview Trump supporters, they whine, Please, Dems, give him a chance!!

 

Heh, heh. No fucking way

Sorry, I never cursed online the way I have the past month.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #95)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 02:18 PM

145. Oh yes.

 

I am looking forward to being the pit bull. So exhausting defending against imaginary issues. Nothing you can say will ever make a difference. I stopped even bothering to defend obama since I decided nothing I could say would do anything

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Response to bravenak (Reply #94)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 02:36 PM

146. Now the GOP in the Senate are asking Democrats

to HELP them screw over people so they don't have to take the whole blame next election cycle.

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Response to TrishaJ (Reply #146)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 02:42 PM

147. Fuck them and fuck anybody that helps

 

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #93)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 02:10 AM

101. Wait, wait, wait.

Christopher Titus is a comedian with a dark streak. He did a show called "Norman Rockwell is Bleeding". In youtube clips for that show is a few minutes titled 'Wait, wait, wait'. He says moms will give you knowledge, but dads make you earn it, and illustrates this using the example of a kid putting a penny in a power socket. The dad solves problems by letting the kid do the stupid thing, and then saying, okay, you're not going to do that anymore, right? It's about a minute long.



See, we tried to be the nice parent. We tried to tell them why it wasn't a good idea, but they went and voted for him anyway... And I felt bad for a couple of weeks after the election, but you know, you can't give anyone else wisdom they didn't ask for.

For the next four years, I'm going to be the mean parent. "Well, go on! You wanted the cheeto, now you've got him." I did my part and voted against him, so my hands are clean. I'm going to eat popcorn and watch the fools blow their eyebrows off. Maybe they'll learn something. But I doubt it.

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Response to Whatthe_Firetruck (Reply #101)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:14 AM

119. That's exactly it. nt

 

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #93)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 02:52 AM

102. 8 years, no way

 

trump will destroy himself, soon.

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Response to zippythepinhead (Reply #102)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:46 AM

126. I'm inclined to agree with you. It depends on a couple of things.

 

Obama's economic recovery will sustain itself for at least 18-24 months. Any budget Trump would put in place wont go into effect for at least 12 months. It would take at least 6 months for a bad economic plan once implemented to tank the economy.

On the other hand, if he starts deporting millions of undocumented immigrants in a short amount of time, that will collapse the housing and food industries no matter what else is going on.

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Response to zippythepinhead (Reply #102)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 01:40 PM

137. Yup. Less than two years until impeachment for corruption, imo.

He won't be able to help himself, given the his new power.

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Response to Oneironaut (Reply #137)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 01:56 PM

141. Less than 1 year. Enter President Pence.

I am already dusting off the bible to prepare for pre-game scripture readings before the national anthem is played.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #93)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 04:35 AM

107. I would agree with you were it not for climate change.

There's no way of undoing the damage he's likely to do to the planet. Our window to prevent atmospheric CO2 and methane levels from reaching catastrophic levels is too small, if it even still exists.

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Response to femmedem (Reply #107)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:21 AM

122. Similar to what I said to the poster below, if we had a different choice, I would certainly make it.

 

We are stuck with this right now. I'm not going to panic or get depressed about it.

I fought as hard as I could for Hillary, we're not going to get her. Now those who voted Trump get to see the fruits of their efforts and since they will have all the branches, they won't get to blame anyone else for the results.

This will be a harsh lesson for those of them smart enough to get it and it will be bad for all the rest of us as well, but I believe in the long term it will turn more people permanently off to the GOP so it will eventually be positive.

Might that be too late from any number of perspectives, climate, destructive war, sure, there is definitely the risk of that. There isn't much I can do about that other than what I am going to do anyway, criticize Trump publicly and vigorously whenever he does something stupid/wrong.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #93)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 10:45 AM

117. Bully for you that you can afford lessons. Some of us may die in the process

but you enjoy your righteousness. OP's cousin wasn't the only one depending on Social Security/Medicare. Hillary voters like me do too. The immigrants. The victims of hate crime. The planet. But you be happy!

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Response to robbedvoter (Reply #117)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:15 AM

120. Your rant would mean something if we actually had a choice. Since we don't it's meaningless. nt

 

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #93)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:55 AM

129. Steve, I would be more sympathetic to your point if it weren't Trump in the White House.

There are lessons taught the hard way, and then there are gigantic cluster-f's that cause years upon years of suffering. Even if it teaches Trump voters a lesson, I still wouldn't wish a Machiavellian sociopath like Trump on anyone.

We may gain more voters in 2018, but we need this country intact to do it. After seeing what Bush did, it's going to be awful seeing this happen to the country again.

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Response to Oneironaut (Reply #129)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:57 AM

130. That's the point though isn't it? If 'W' wasn't enough to drive the point home, something worse is

 

needed.

It's not like I wanted this. I fought for Hillary as hard as anyone could. I tried to stop this.

Now that I couldn't I am going to deal with the aftermath.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #130)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 12:28 PM

135. I believe that a certain segment will never learn their lesson.

They will always deflect blame to something else, like "the Socialist Marxist Liberals," "the Welfare Queens," illegals stealing their jobs, etc. They don't even understand what Medicare is. I don't think it matters if the Republicans screw them over - they'll never learn, imo. They're ignorant on purpose, and don't care about the facts.

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Response to Oneironaut (Reply #135)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 01:41 PM

138. There is no question about that. The question is, how many can we peel away.

 

What percentage of folks willing to vote Republican do we need to pull away from their pool of potential voters to make it impossible for them to win the Presidency, House and Senate?

The number isn't that high. If they screw with Medicare, it hits the age demographic that was their best performer. That will more than do it.

Then in 4 years we can put Medicare back the way it was, with perhaps some improvements.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #130)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 01:44 PM

139. I'm inclined to think though

that if W wasn't enough to drive the point home, nothing will be.

The problems are:
- No accountability or fact checking of pervasive biased media spreading misinformation
- Decades of underfunding in schools and the state turning a blind eye to "homeschooling" of religious mega-families
- Vote suppression, fraud and gerrymandering
- Weakening of labour rights and solidarity which has driven down working conditions and created wedges between people who would otherwise work together

None of those are solved by having a terrible president who dismantles social programmes people depend on. The system is rigged and we can't keep relying on running vastly superior candidates to compensate for that.

Because we'll have no influence at the top, we need to work from the grassroots to hold the media accountable, get on school boards and make sure kids are learning civics and have qualified actual teachers, get on elections boards, join unions and organise in the workplace.

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #139)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 01:47 PM

140. I hear you. See my #138 above.

 

I don't think it requires a massive amount of folks currently willing to vote (R) to be permanently turned off to doing that.

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Response to SharonAnn (Reply #81)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 10:46 AM

118. "they" are not just Trump voters. A lot of democrats - not you, obviously-

also feel the pain. Sorry for interrupting your celebration with my survival concerns.

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Response to robbedvoter (Reply #118)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:18 AM

121. Again, your rant is misplaced. Save it for those who voted Trump, not those of us trying to

 

deal with the reality of what we face.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #121)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 02:09 PM

144. Seems we share the same sentiments. I preface my comments with,

"I really hate saying this but....."

Yes, I am sorry that my fellow countrymen who depend on Medicare and/or SS are going to suffer but NOT so for those who voted for this sham, this orange menace for POTUS. Hell, I even cracked a smile when I read the OP.

I would not be where I am today without SS. I would have had to drop out of school to take care of my Mom. So to my fellow leftists offended by our schadenfreude - I am truly sorry.

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Response to Missn-Hitch (Reply #144)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 03:11 PM

149. Yes, and look, I understand commenter robbedvoter's anger and fear but it is misdirected

 

I fought for Hillary. I pulled the lever for her. I wouldn't even describe my feeling as schadenfreude. I am not happy about this. But I am also not depressed or angry. I am energized to face what is to come.

This is 2000 all over again.

Those who didn't go out and vote for Hillary are going to be shocked at the consequences and how big the difference really is. Just like with 2000, many of those same folks are going to have deep regrets that they did not vote for her and fight for her.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #149)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 04:25 PM

150. I hear ya. Cheers.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:32 PM

3. There are some we'll never get through to, regardless of our message.

I guess one positive is that he's seeing the light. Too bad it's a little late and the rest of us have to deal with the fallout.

Unfortunately, I think your cousin is going to be the exception and not the rule. I suspect a lot of Trump voters will remain in denial for some time to come, maybe the whole four years. I guess we can hope not.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:40 PM

9. I think you might be right

 

But there is also this thing Trump is doing that is strange compared to other winners. He wont shut up and go away for a while to learn the job. He is just really really doing everything I had hoped he would do. He is desensitizing us to his bullshit antics so we can go back to focusing on his real problems and not let him distract us in the future.

I think his voters who actually have a bit of instinct for self preservation will be in agony soon. That's all we need. The disillusioned. Fuck the rest of those idiots. I want to have 'LEAVE MY MEDICARE ALONE!!", rallies all over the nation. I will make signs.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:52 PM

18. His refusal to learn even the basics is a little bizarre.

I've long thought that he didn't want the job and that he was doing everything he could to lose, but his current antics make it seem like he doesn't even know he won, even though he talks about it all the time. It's almost as though he's in denial that he's about to become POTUS and is acting like he's not. It seems that he's rushing his cabinet picks hoping someone will bail him out.

It's very odd. The positive thing, in a twisted way, is that everything we said he'd be as president looks a bit prophetic now (and he's not even POTUS yet) and his antics are being exposed to more people now that they're front and center.

If we're stuck with him, and it appears we are, I guess we have to hope that any reasonable Trump voters (an oxymoron, I realize) figure out that they've been sold down the river. And soon. In time for 2018, preferably.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #18)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:55 PM

39. He absolutely doesn't want...

...the JOB, just the title. And all the attendant adulation, pomp and circumstance.

The job actually involves hard mental work, probably 18- 20 hours a day. It takes concentration and the aility to focus for sustained periods of time. And, it is a job that is primarily about serving others.

He sucks at all of those.

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Response to 3catwoman3 (Reply #39)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:59 PM

42. I thought he probably wanted to lose the race and win the popular vote so he could milk it...

for years. It seemed that he was doing everything he could to throw the election, but I think I was just hoping he was and that it would work.

Upon learning that he paid Bob Dole $140k to set up the Taiwan call, it appears that not only did he want the job, he assumed he was going to win. Kind of blows my theory.

I agree - he doesn't want the work. I thought (wrong again) that he'd hire reasonably competent people and basically let them run the show, but he can't even do that right. Maybe Pence will run the place.

Link for Bob Dole story: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8337300

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #42)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:04 PM

44. Yes and he already

knew it was in the bag.

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Response to triron (Reply #44)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:15 PM

50. And so did Mitch Fucking McConnell, which is...

...why, IMO, he was sooooooooooooooooo adamant about not giving Merrick Garland a hearing. He goddamn KNEW they were going to steal this election just like they stole 2000 and 2004. Bastard.

I utterly detest that man.

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Response to 3catwoman3 (Reply #50)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:20 PM

55. never thought of that...maybe

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Response to 3catwoman3 (Reply #50)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 11:58 PM

96. yes of course he did.

 

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Response to 3catwoman3 (Reply #39)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 03:35 AM

104. Trump wants to continue those "Victory Tour" rallies indefinitely.

(Even though the venues post-election really aren't filled, as he would have you believe.)

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 09:28 AM

112. it isn't "some"

the stupid in this country is at a stage 4 cancer now.

There almost literally is no republican who is able to hear ANYTHNG a spawn of the devil, america hating "liberal" has to say about anything.

All we can do is sit around and hope the country is not complete fucked over by the time the jackasses have their epiphanies.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:34 PM

4. Just like the white seniors who demanded that the Government stay away from "their" Medicare.

Apparently some people only learn through making bad choices.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:43 PM

73. others, never at all.



trump, for instance, now that i think about it...

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Response to barbtries (Reply #73)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:44 AM

125. Well, as Lincoln is said to have observed,

"you can fool some of the people all of the time".

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #125)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:49 AM

128. he was right.

i know a couple actually...

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:35 PM

5. Let's hope your cousin will mull over what you have said

and come to his senses.

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Response to democrank (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:36 PM

6. I wish he had ever had senses to come back to. Lifelong stupid is the worst kind

 

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:39 PM

7. And we now have a nation about to live in despair, with all respect, because of damn fools like

your cousin. And there are millions just like him that literally don't know what they are doing when they vote than falling for high-pressure advertising, psyops and hate media. It's a fucken shame, but I really think they have brought the US into some very dark days and I have no sympathy for them, because the future of my life. as with millions and millions, will likely be ruined too.

And after the supreme count nominations and wins down the road, it will probably be decades before the US starts to resemble what it once was if ever again.

FFS, does you cousin even realize he has enabled the hugest billionaire insider establishment into the WH ever witnessed in the US. And, he has brought in extreme war hawks. WTF, did your cousin think they were just like the billionaire establishment.

Clue your cousin in, they are LOSERS in this establishment, seen as dog shit or worse by the new highly powered billionaire elite. You cousin was used for his vote, seen as damn ignorant fools, and they will likely suffer significantly like the rest of us into some damn dystopian society.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:44 PM

12. Honestly? He never realizes anything until it might harm him

 

Everything is about him at all times. Trump could nuke china and as long as his check came on time, so be it. This is why I have no sympathy for a Trumper. The entire family has to come together to provide charity to his ass every month and he somehow decided Trump was going to be a blast. I told him this was the last time I would help him for fours years. Told him to ask King Trump for a handout, so my sister is going to send him money. Irritating.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:49 PM

16. It's bad enough to deal with this outside of ones family, but when in the family it's

utterly horrific, a total WTF. Some are just unreachable. Maybe a kick in the head by the Trump Machine will knock some sense into him, but somehow I doubt it.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #16)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:08 PM

22. He is very stressed out

 

This might help him in the long run so he never forgets this feeling. Nobody is sympathizing with him after his celebratory antics after Trump won, that helps him realize he did it to himself.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #22)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:11 PM

28. It seems it should help some, hopefully. n/t

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:40 PM

8. I thought you said that Trump supporters were all racists that we shouldn't waste our time on

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:41 PM

10. He is racist. But I'm related to him so I get to shame him in person

 

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Response to bravenak (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:44 PM

11. lol

That's funny

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:47 PM

13. impressed that he's at least seeing it clearly now, not just blaming Obama for reasons...

let's see how long before he believes losing his SSI and Medicare so Trump & friends can have a yuuuge tax cut is symbolic of Great Patriotism that will maga

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Response to 0rganism (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:10 PM

27. I think he might hate Trump now. It's funny as hell

 

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:48 PM

14. This is the cousin you had to feed the other day? Maybe, just maybe...

this will be the thing that enlightens him, and brings him around.

Probably not, but where there's hope...

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:08 PM

23. Same one.

 

I love watching him go from YAY TRUMP to OH FUCK

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Response to bravenak (Reply #23)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:13 PM

30. That must be sweet - at least for a moment.

I wish I could see all the 'oh fuck' faces out there right about now.

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Response to Chemisse (Reply #30)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:15 PM

32. I enjoy it

 

And I expect to see it dominate a few news cycles after he actually gets sworn in. He us already a failure and nothing they can say will stop us from laughing at their King

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:48 PM

15. You don't waste your time with them.

Put your efforts into convincing reasonable people into reasonable actions. For every crackpot out there, there are probably 10 or 100 people who just apathetic and unmotivated.

Those are the people you can reach.

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Response to Liberal Veteran (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:51 PM

17. Well said!!!!!! n/t

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Response to Liberal Veteran (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:09 PM

25. Yeah, I am just trying to help him understand that this is all his own dumb fault

 

I enjoy it and he hates it. A win win.

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Response to Liberal Veteran (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 12:01 AM

97. Trump is going to give us unique opportunities to reach out to people

 

Trump and the GOPs best demographic is the elderly. If SS or Medicare are messed with, that opens the door to everyone over 50 that isn't wealthy.

Bravenaks relative is a prime example.

If we win over the 50 and over crowd we will trounce the GOP nationally every election.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:53 PM

19. His phone isn't an Obama phone.

Its a Bush Phone. Bush started the free phones.

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Response to coco22 (Reply #19)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:09 PM

26. Please do not tell him that

 

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:57 PM

20. He's got no one to blame but himself

...and the rest of are blaming him and his kind too.
There is no dignity in being an idiot.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:59 PM

21. "Trumpgrets"

The buyers’ remorse will continue to grow.

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Response to J_William_Ryan (Reply #21)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:11 PM

29. Let's make sure to bring how much he sucks up often.

 

His fans are so sad

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:09 PM

24. K&R

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:14 PM

31. On a minor positive note, your OP reminded me of ...

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But yeah, hard to fix stupid.

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Response to Persondem (Reply #31)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:17 PM

33. That was pretty funny

 

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:26 PM

34. So sorry you have a relative who is a knucklehead. Didn't he realize that Obama wasn't running?

It's the same old voter's remorse we see in Kentucky when they elected Governor Asshole What's-His-Name and his promising to dismantle Obamacare & the shitheads who voted for him are all upset now. WTF?!?

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Response to catbyte (Reply #34)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:18 PM

53. Obama was totally on the ballot for him regardless of reality

 

It's crazy

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:30 PM

35. ACA. SS. Medicare.

All very important to me. I am on two of the three right now. However, all a moot point. He will have the launch codes in just over 30 days. Instead of tweeting at 3AM he will kill us all. I doubt we will survive his presidency.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #35)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:17 PM

52. Sheshe, sick as it makes me, I fear you are right.

I have not posted in awhile (unexpected illness laid me lower than I already was), but I always follow your excellent posts. Before the election, a long-time friend of mine told me he voted for Hillary, albeit reluctantly (didn't get into that with him), because, as he put it, the nation could survive her presidency. He did not hesitate to clarify that the same could not be said for her opponent.

Stay strong, my DU friend. For the present, I can't get myself to look into the future much beyond April.

The sadness, it overwhelms me.

Blessings.

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Response to classof56 (Reply #52)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:51 PM

75. Hey class,

I am so sorry you have been ill. Get better sweetie. I want to say it will get better, yet I am like you living a few months or so at a time. I am terrified and did not want my life to end this way, in fear of what will be tomorrow. All I wanted was to leave my nieces, nephews and the grands a good world.

Love and hugs to you always.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #75)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 08:17 PM

157. Ah, thank you so much!

You make me feel better with your words, your kindness, your understanding and your insights. You wishes for those who are following in our footsteps are mine exactly. Above all, I wish there was a glimmer of hope for my grandsons' future. The black abyss seems to loom larger every day. Let us continue to uphold each other and speak truth to power.

Love and hugs to you, also. Many blessings!

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #35)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 09:44 PM

87. I am so very mad at certain of my family members

 

The pity party they are having for themselves is the worst. They never cared when it was about others but now they want sympathy for the damage they did to the rest of us. Too furious right now

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Response to bravenak (Reply #87)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 10:02 PM

90. I am so sorry honey...

As far as I know only my nieces husband voted for him. I would like to rip him a new one yet I can't.

Yes, I am furious.

I love you babe.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #35)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 01:56 PM

142. everyone who voted for trumpfuhrer

 

is the coward in this scene. The missiles have a good chance of flying this time around, both out and in. I will not fear this fuck, I will hate him and who he stands for till the end of my time on this FUBAR planet.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #142)

Thu Dec 8, 2016, 04:19 AM

161. I know heaven.

I know.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:39 PM

36. I'm sure a lot of voters who said they were tired of Republicans after Bush II

went back to the dark side, and voted for Trump last November.
How soon they forget. Folks, it will be MUCH worse this time around.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:47 PM

37. Poor fellow! Why don't you serve him a plate of Schadenfreude chicken. nt

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:48 PM

38. Your cousin should have listened to you, BUT.....

we still need to fault the debate moderators for spending all their time on emails and foreign policy (well, not all, but you know what I mean). Had topics like Social Security, education, housing, Medicare, and climate change been discussed, we very well could have had a different outcome.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #38)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:27 PM

58. That was straight up garbage the way those emails dominated

 

I have not heard about them since.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:55 PM

40. What do we say about addict? Only until someone its rock bottom are they open to help

 

Maybe Trump will be white working class moron's rock bottom.

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Response to Feeling the Bern (Reply #40)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:37 PM

67. Lets hope so

 

Sad thing is my cousin is black so.... Not just the white working class that needs a dose of reality. Boy is he getting his. He is getting no sympathy

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Response to bravenak (Reply #67)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 09:16 PM

82. Minority trump supporter that isn't a trust fund baby. Like Jews for Hitler.

 

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Response to Feeling the Bern (Reply #82)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 09:42 PM

86. Absolutely. I told him he wants Massa back

 

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:57 PM

41. Old Men

Yeah I done two old men at a coffee cafe the other night it was funny.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:02 PM

43. A number of trumpsters are having trumpgrets

Too bad.

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #43)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:39 PM

69. Too bad they screwed it up for us too

 

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:05 PM

45. Tell your cousin ....

to take a hike and not let the door hit him on the way out.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:08 PM

46. Trumpsters OWN this one.

The next four years and beyond, the nightmare they have created. THEY OWN IT.

Screw your self centered cousin! No sympathy here.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:08 PM

47. Tell him that he will get exactly what he deserves, but you don't deserve it.

But you'll get it done to you too, thanks to assholes like him.

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #47)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:38 PM

68. I did. Felt good too

 

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:13 PM

48. For the life of me,I do not understand people like your cousin

The only thing I can come up with, is they are brainwashed by Fox and their bigotry overrules common sense.

I think they need to be found in a gutter somewhere before they can come to their senses.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:13 PM

49. I can't help feeling sorry for people like your cousin.

But I'd never let them know it.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:17 PM

51. and it was THEIR messaging.

30 plus years of bullshit piled higher, higher and higher. hate radio. control of the media, fox fucking news. fear fear fear and bullshit.

a dear friend's son is the same way as your cousin. i have to delete nearly every comment he puts on my fb because i won't have him shitting on my rug so to speak, but since i am so close to his mother and have known him since he was born, i haven't blocked him. i have tried to reason with him but it was beyond useless.

it's like they cannot even think really. this shit about 3 million illegal votes in CA - it's absurd on its face, but these people believe it. A child sex ring run by Hillary out of a pizza parlor in DC - outlandishly ridiculous! omigawd, and people believe it.

i don't fucking know how to combat this, i really don't. the republicans have made huge strides toward destroying the country, and i really do not know if it can be saved. what i do know is i will resist to the very end.

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Response to barbtries (Reply #51)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:32 PM

61. I know. How to combat propaganda in real time

 

i recently read the Emperors New Clothes. It really really fits this situation. It will take something that seems minor to bring him down. We have to pick at him bit by bit until he melts down. Without his rallies to keep his spiruts up he will deflate under the pressure. He needs attention, accolades, fawning. Laughing at bullies hurts their hearts. He needs laughed at constantly.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #61)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:40 PM

71. constantly

no matter how hard it gets to laugh.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:19 PM

54. My apologies, but, your dearest cousin is a dipshit.

I would tell him that he deserves to lose his Medicare and any other benefits he has, and that proper pennance for him would be to spend the rest of his life trying to make life better for all those that didn't deserve it and didn't vote for Chump. .

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Response to Downtown Hound (Reply #54)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:26 PM

57. I want to say he deserves it

 

But does anybody actually deserve Trump? Not even my worst enemy should deal with that psycho. But he does deserve it in a way. He wanted to have it himself, but take it from other people to suppor his bigotries. Now nobody will have it. I asked him if he's proud but he will not answer.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #57)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:31 PM

60. If that what it takes to wake these morons up, then yes

I would say they deserve trump. It's the rest of us that don't.

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Response to Downtown Hound (Reply #60)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:28 AM

123. I am...

right with you on this one. Time for people to actually get a dose of their own stupidity.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:23 PM

56. Reminds of when I was working with for the FEDs in 2006 and Bush instituted a Reduction in Force.

I turned to my Shrub loving co-workers, now facing being layed off, and asked what do you think of Bush now?

They replied, it's Clinton's fault.

Nothing getting through.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:30 PM

59. Birthers aren't reachable

There's really no way to get through to people cracked enough to buy into the Birther nonsense, and at least half the Republicans are that far gone. It's like a cult. Better off spending your time trying to figure out a way to beat Trump and the others, and trying to help some of the victims of this nonsense.

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Response to vlakitti (Reply #59)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:33 PM

62. Right? Nothing we could ever say would work. Waste of time

 

Pain works. We just need to wait.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #62)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:59 PM

79. I dunno

Those people like your cousin remind me of the poor whites in the south who have voted for the Bourbon Grandees for a century and a half, whether Republican o Democrat. They have had it ugly and painful for six or seven generations now.

In any case, we can't do the job of dishing out the pain.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:33 PM

63. We cannot craft a message for them

They are sunk in their hatred and CT fantasies.

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Response to mcar (Reply #63)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:34 PM

65. Yep

 

Like jpr and free republic. Noting sinks in it just feeds the beast

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:34 PM

64. Does he still get Xmas card??

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Response to benld74 (Reply #64)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:36 PM

66. No. I'm athiest thank goodness

 

I refuse to participate in his fake xmas.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:39 PM

70. I have a cousin like yours.

Only he has no regrets yet. Of course, I doubt if he reads anything or pays much attention, so he doesn't realise that his social security and medicare are in Trump's crosshairs. His FB page is all tits and ass, guns and the occasional car or bike, and Trump worship. Yet he tells me I have been possessed because I don't support Trump, and he will pray for me. I posted an Advent Calendar of daily acts of kindness, and he said, what, no Jesus? I'd be surprised if he has been in a church in years.
Oy, my head hurts.

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Response to Granny M (Reply #70)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:41 PM

72. It was so frustrating to read facebook posts that I refuse to log in

 

I'll wait awhile until the trumpmania calms down before I take a look.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:45 PM

74. I think that right now he is so confused that he's not sure...

what the hell is going on in his world. He's confused and frightened (I suppose like the rest of us).

He will have to come to terms with the fact that Trump tricked him into voting for him and perhaps maybe Obama wasn't as bad as 'they' said he was.

But he seem to be on the right trail, giving up FOX 'news' for one thing and maybe there is hope for him somewhere down the road.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:55 PM

76. When reality crashes into...

The Rethuglican, Fux News manufactured, artificial reality. Eventually it reaches a point where you can't fantasize your way out. Maybe that's what it's going to take.

Congrats on finally getting through to him.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:56 PM

77. Guess you'd better tell your cousin to pull himself up by his bootstraps. It's the GOP way.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 08:57 PM

78. 2016 election

Your cousin may be the only unaware of conservative plans. Watches Fox doesn't he?

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 09:01 PM

80. My misled mother

My misled 74 year old mother who can't get around without a walker asked me what they mean about privatizing Medicare. I told her it means her and dad will get a voucher to try to buy their own insurance. She has had her brain turned to mush by Right Wing propaganda, but she knows they need medicare and cheap medication to be able to survive. She asked me what will they do, I told her, "well mom, maybe you'll have to get a job to cover the costs, that's what you voted for."

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 09:18 PM

83. I hope that millions of Trump supporters will have their Day of Reckoning as did your cousin.

Their realization and reckoning with the fact that they were conned. That the rich will get the largest tax breaks, that the Repubs and Trump will work to kill their healthcare, Medicare and then attempt to do the same with Social Security.

For democracy to work, citizens must be informed and engaged. Trumpsters were engaged on November 8, but they are also terribly ignorant. Not stupid, but ignorant of the truth.

So in the end, they'll pay a price for their ignorance.

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Response to kstewart33 (Reply #83)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 09:46 PM

88. I hope they do each and every one of them feel this feeling he is feeling

 

They need it

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 09:24 PM

84. Swindled

Tell him not to feel too bad. Trump is a world-class con man and millions of other people were conned this year, too. He's not alone. Maybe you should also warn with him about emails from Nigerian Princes, phone calls from Microsoft and other common frauds.

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Response to many a good man (Reply #84)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 09:48 PM

89. I want him to keep feeling bad so he never ever does anything this stupid again

 

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 10:32 PM

91. He voted for it he deserves it.

Now if he is TRULY sorry he will open himself to the truth and learn from his mistake. Will he make the same type of mistake next go around and plunge the rest of the country into his pit of anger or study the truth before voting on uneducated emotion?

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Response to Doreen (Reply #91)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 06:06 AM

108. "Pit of Anger."

Damn. I like that.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 10:44 PM

92. Has he not been paying attention

 

for over a decade? Pukes have been trying to go after SS and Medicare fo a long time.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 12:56 AM

98. Idk

My sister said she couldn't vote for a career politician like Hillary...WTF?

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 01:19 AM

99. Elections have consequences and he will feel the pain...

for his stupidity. Tell buttercup to suck it up.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 01:51 AM

100. They can do it, but they probably won't.

Back in 2012 the Republicans won the Congressional election by promising to "protect Medicare" -- and the day after the election announced that they were going to "end Medicare as you know it". But there was enough very strong popular reaction that the Republicans gave up on that plan.

And now the Republicans, for all their ability to screw up Medicare, Social Security, and Affordable Care, can foresee enough of the future to know that doing so will mean that the Congress will change parties at the next election. I say that with all the confidence that I had in the polls that predicted that Hillary would win the election.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 03:06 AM

103. take heart

 

filibuster and filibuster.
I am so happy that NC gov McCroy lost the election. That bastard refused medicaid for our state. It will change during the next elections for congress and governors once they are homeless.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 03:39 AM

105. I don't understand how anyone could not see this coming

The GOP have been trying to slash the safety nets for decades.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 03:55 AM

106. Just tell your cuz that trump is the ultimate con man and he's the sucker Sucker's get fleeced when

a con man wins.
Too f'n bad.
At this point my sympathy for the people who voted for this idiot and will be hurt by his policies is at ZERO.
My sympathy for people of color and women etc who didn't vote for him and have to suffer the effects is 100%.
Trump voters get 0.
Fuck them and then, fuck them again.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 06:22 AM

109. Regrets? Already?

 

There will be more of this as time wears on.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 08:20 AM

110. To the extent Trump was "elected," even after losing by 2 million votes, it is a triumph of the...

...the ignorant.

They are indeed the "deplorables," and to the extent some of them rot in ever more dire poverty and distress, they certainly deserve getting that for which they wished.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 09:22 AM

111. The answer

we can't. I am not going to shed a tear for him but its because of people like him that those of us who were fighting are about to lose our rights, our social security all because he couldn't bring himself to vote for Hillary

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 09:48 AM

113. Those who have Trumpgrets made their beds, now they need to sleep in them.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 09:59 AM

114. The toxic combination of Obama Derangement Syndrome and voting against one's own best interest.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 10:10 AM

115. Sorry for your cousin

but why, why do you have a trump gif on your signature? ugh. I come to DU to get away from seeing that fuckers face everywhere else. I don't mean any disrespect but I am turned off by your signature line. you know free country and all that.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 10:42 AM

116. Any decision made based on hatred - not just politics - is bound to be a bad one

Don't blame yourself. Your cousin like most Trumpie didn't base their decision on reason, policies, arguments. It was a gut feeling - one that felt mighty good at the time. same with the 3rd party voters - even if the object of hate might have been more diversified there.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:31 AM

124. Tell him maybe he can get a job as a servant to the 1% who

are now the Billionaire's Club governing our country.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:47 AM

127. "This is what hate does to the mind. It makes people stupid. "

 

Too true, too true.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:59 AM

131. Boo-hoo

Behave as a hateful ignoramus, and you will reap the rewards of being a hateful ignoramus.

Hope he enjoys Mexico.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 12:22 PM

133. "That's what hate does to the mind. It makes people stupid."

Spot on!

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 12:25 PM

134. Talking calmly to your cousin for an hour on holidays...

...can't defeat the 24-hour bullshit machine that holds his hand and screams in his ear, eyes and every other hole umpteen times daily. Billions are spent deluding him via channels that might as well have been surgically implanted.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 01:32 PM

136. exactly

 

ex-friends acting humbly regretful. I told them where to go and what to do while going there.. AmeriKKKans and americans will regret that they went for the con. I am going to end up suffering, but they will too. Fuck em.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 02:02 PM

143. What pisses me off

is because of idiots like this (no offense!) people like me and many others are going to suffer as well. I too rely on SSDI and Medicaid to survive so I'm going to go down with the fools who didn't vote their hopes and instead voted their hate. It fuckings sucks :/

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 03:11 PM

148. the only argument for sympathy

is that when he does get the proverbial boot to the head by reality, he might make a useful ally. Hell hath no fury like a Republican scorned; it is just they are too stupid to get to that point until reality truly HITS them.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 05:06 PM

151. This is exactly what the trumpsters voted for

Unfortunately they had no desire to learn who/what they were voting for. Mys sister was complaining about what she was reading. I told her that she was getting what she voted for. She may not speak to me again..Oh well

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Response to Lebam in LA (Reply #151)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 05:11 PM

152. I think this is the right way to handle things

 

Tell the truth, that actions have consequences. It's always irritating to be told that they 'had no idea he would do this!". Yes they did. He said he would. I'm done sympathizing with dumb

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Response to bravenak (Reply #152)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 06:59 PM

156. exactly right

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 06:10 PM

154. you can not fix ones that do not want to think

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 06:17 PM

155. The only message these idjits understand....

... is dimensional lumber up-side their thick heads.

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Response to bravenak (Original post)

Thu Dec 8, 2016, 01:47 AM

158. Lawd have mercy

is about all I can say to your OP, bravenak

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Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #158)

Thu Dec 8, 2016, 03:26 AM

159. He is driving me crazy right now

 

He say that I should have told him nicely not to vote for Trump. I said it too mean. I told him I was trying to help him out, I'm not on medicare and I suspect there will be no SS by the time my time comes so I never expected it. He is the one who needs his benefits to live.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #159)

Thu Dec 8, 2016, 03:35 AM

160. and you buy his groceries?

bravenak, I can't even type out on DU what I would have told your cousin if he had said some shit like that to me.

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Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #160)

Thu Dec 8, 2016, 04:33 AM

162. And he would be too stupid to understand a word you say

 

I won't let him starve but that's pretty much as far as I can go.

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