# 2016 Postmortem

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Jill Stein raising money for a recount of three states...

https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/recount

Just gave $50. . Please consider donating.

Our country needs us!!

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#### madamesilverspurs

(15,974 posts)#### cilla4progress

(25,435 posts)It's odd to sit back and watch these stories percolate "up." As they reach the top echelons - NYT, WAPO, Palast, CNN, NBC, they start to gain credibility.

#### kydo

(2,679 posts)Greg Palast

?@Greg_Palast

BREAKING: @DrJillStein & @GreenPartyUS to force re-count in MI, WI & PA. A tiny 50,000 vote shift will un-#Trump the Electoral College.

https://twitter.com/Greg_Palast/status/801508904471433216

#### cilla4progress

(25,435 posts)#### CountAllVotes

(20,971 posts)sadly.

Lets hope it HAPPENS!

#### cilla4progress

(25,435 posts)#### oldtime dfl_er

(6,947 posts)It's at half a million already.

#### femmocrat

(28,394 posts)Do they have to pay to start a recount?

#### s-cubed

(1,385 posts)which would trigger an automatic recount, a candidate can request one, but must pay for it.

#### femmocrat

(28,394 posts)This is very good news.

#### redwitch

(15,033 posts)I think...

#### femmocrat

(28,394 posts)(Not that it makes it true!) Also, the voting totals have not yet been certified in some states.

There were math errors in WI and (supposedly) MI is within 10,000 votes now? Hope that would trigger an automatic recount.

I am a teensy bit encouraged by the news about Jill Stein and plan to donate! Even if it is a longshot, I think it is worth a try to prevent 4 years of hell.

#### EL34x4

(2,003 posts)Trump wins by 10,704. No automatic recount. The state's Board of Canvassers will officially certify the results on Nov. 28.

This crusade is silly.

#### Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)as "silly", I think there are some valid issues being raised, and they should be investigated. However, I doubt the current effort would do anything to alter the result and prevent Orange Julius from seizing power next month.

I think our blood, sweat, tears, and yes, money are better spent working to retake the Senate in 2018, if not the House as well, and sending Drumpf into retirement in 2020 with the election of a progressive President and a supportive Congress. We also have a great deal of work to do at the state & local level in those areas where we are currently out of power.

I don't see this effort as beneficial to the true tasks at hand. Furthermore, the voting shenanigans might best be uncovered by investigative journalists and friendly court venues, which would a;so provide sufficient time to bring these irregularities to light (a time-limited recount window will most likely prove fruitless). And if the media steps up and alerts the public to any uncovered violations of election law, you could see a progressive wave election the likes of which none of us has ever seen in this country.

#### FarPoint

(13,270 posts)I won't donate unless I'm sure this is not another scam. We are vulnerable at the moment...

#### apcalc

(4,494 posts)Have thought it might be, then again it might not be.

#### Farmgirl1961

(1,514 posts)I have not yet donated. I plan to donate when I get home from work later today.

#### doc03

(36,219 posts)over we lost move on.

#### shraby

(21,946 posts)dear? Bit yer tongue.

#### doc03

(36,219 posts)there would be a civil war.

#### shraby

(21,946 posts)I don't feel sorry for haters.

#### cilla4progress

(25,435 posts)you

#### Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)Gave earlier. Gonna cough up more next week.

#### athena

(4,187 posts)The Wisconsin recount has to be requested by Friday.

#### cannabis_flower

(3,810 posts)#### Liberal In Texas

(14,166 posts)Bring it on.

Fuck them.

#### athena

(4,187 posts)if they are not reassured that their votes were properly counted this time.

The people have a right to know that the election was done honestly and that Trump's presidency was really the will of the people.

#### apcalc

(4,494 posts)The will of the people is Hillary...puhleeze..she's ahead by over 2 million votes and counting.

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)Don't think so!

#### Cobalt Violet

(9,908 posts)#### Omaha Steve

(102,399 posts)#### cilla4progress

(25,435 posts)so fast?

#### itsrobert

(14,157 posts)yes

#### femmocrat

(28,394 posts)I will hang on to any thread of hope if it can prevent that maniac and his minions from taking over the government.

#### itsrobert

(14,157 posts)nt

#### mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)I guess the maximum individual donation that Jill Stein's website can accept is $2700, but from what I understand, the maximum donation that the Ohio Green Party website can accept is $10,000.

#### itsrobert

(14,157 posts)nt

#### LibraLiz1973

(8,197 posts)It was up over 700k when I was on the site.

#### cilla4progress

(25,435 posts)something that seems to be working!

She has till Friday to raise $2.5 million, right?

Do Tom Steyer, Warren Buffett, Michael Bloomberg and George Soros know about this?

How do we make sure they do?

#### oldtime dfl_er

(6,947 posts)Maybe too pragmatic

#### MontanaMama

(23,834 posts)That felt great!!

$825,754.66 raised!!! Screw you trumpsters!!!

#### MontanaMama

(23,834 posts)In 30 seconds there was another $10,000! Holy crap.

And, I was thinking that it makes sense that Jill would spear head this effort. If Hillary did it, all hell would break loose and the MSM would never cover it or if they did, it would be a poor donald story...

#### bigmonkey

(1,798 posts)Do the Greens have standing in the three state? I assume so.

#### womanofthehills

(9,104 posts)The money is coming in fast!!!!!!!!!

#### riversedge

(71,964 posts)#### womanofthehills

(9,104 posts)#### redwitch

(15,033 posts)#### womanofthehills

(9,104 posts)#### athena

(4,187 posts)You can see the will of the people in the number as it increases!

#### cmos_sue

(23 posts)Donated!

#### diane in sf

(4,020 posts)#### womanofthehills

(9,104 posts)Posted the info from 4 different news sites on FB - I go back and keep making comments on the amt as it climbs.

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)A million mark coming fast!

#### red dog 1

(28,802 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)Going to get friend and relatives

#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### Tess49

(1,584 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)This is fun!

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### rollin74

(2,053 posts)#### Richard D

(9,150 posts)In around 3 hours!

This is rather astounding.

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### moreland01

(799 posts)#### MontanaMama

(23,834 posts)Come on everybody!!!

#### oldtime dfl_er

(6,947 posts)I donated, it was half a million. I took a nap for an hour. It's a million.

A few bucks tossed in, just to get peace of mind on this damn election, is completely worth it.

#### Richard D

(9,150 posts)How do they do a recount?

#### forgotmylogin

(7,651 posts)When I touched the option for Clinton/Kaine for President, the machine immediately printed "Dem Clinton/Kaine" on a tape like a grocery store receipt behind glass. Every choice I made was printed. I will guess had I changed my vote, it would have printed a "subtract" vote for that race then recorded the new choice. Essentially it was documenting every choice button I hit in order. They can go over these tapes to work out why the vote totals don't match.

#### apcalc

(4,494 posts)Where I vote in PA, my electronic tesults are not verified.

Welcome Hack City!

#### Grown2Hate

(2,094 posts)thorough, and quick will these recounts be if they get the money? So many questions... I guess if I can buy a lottery ticket, I can do this, right?

#### MontanaMama

(23,834 posts)She made the call...but this isn't about her. It's about Hillary. I'm thinking there's a lot behind the scenes that we don't know. Hillary could never ask for the recount.

#### Grown2Hate

(2,094 posts)it, I'm just still skeptical. Hoping for SOMETHING though.

#### radical noodle

(8,112 posts)that she is interested in the integrity of our elections. They have apparently challenged in other years and proven there were problems. I'm not familiar with it at all, but I'm beginning to think this is worth a donation because even if the votes weren't tampered with, we sure know that there were illegal efforts to influence this election for Trump.

#### KatyBR

(186 posts)Here is an article posted on Fortune magazine about it:

http://fortune.com/2016/11/23/jill-stein-vote-recount-election/

She has to pay because the margins are not small enough. More than $2 million is needed to meet filing fees, not including legal and processing fees, to facilitate recounts in the three states. Wisconsin alone requires $1 million to file for a recount, and its deadline is Friday, November 25. Pennsylvania’s deadline is Monday, and Michigan’s deadline is next Wednesday.

Here is her web page for it:

https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/recount

#### womanofthehills

(9,104 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### cilla4progress

(25,435 posts)Here!

Didn't Chris Hayes feature this on his show today?

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)Needs the rest for Pennsylvania - deadline Monday $500,000

and Michigan - deadline next Wednesday $ 600,000

.

#### triron

(22,240 posts)Keep this going

Social upheaval come on!

#### KatyBR

(186 posts)Pass the word on. We're going to do this!

https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/recount

#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### txwhitedove

(3,978 posts)#### cilla4progress

(25,435 posts)On this?

Palast on twitter?

#### athena

(4,187 posts)because they only care about their ratings.

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### musicblind

(4,558 posts)I'm thinking about donating. I don't have much money. I bring in about $700 a month.

If the recount doesn't happen, will we get the money back? If not, are we guaranteed that the money will go toward something else like fighting the appointment of liberal SCOTUS appointees?

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)Maybe don't donate so much if it's a hardship! Just $100 would be good.

#### MontanaMama

(23,834 posts)Please do not put yourself in a situation where your finances are jeopardized.

#### Farmgirl1961

(1,514 posts)Why don't you wait and watch and see what happens. I didn't donate a huge amount and would be happy to donate in your name, or add an extra amount for you.

-Farmgirl1961

#### musicblind

(4,558 posts)People like you are the good people, and your money can go to so many good causes out there rather than just donating in my name.

I'll do what you suggested, though. I'll wait until late Thursday night. If it looks like they are on the edge, I'll donate.

I'm one of those people the republicans consider an "entitled taker." I'm deaf (hence my screen name: musicblind), and suffer from several other ailments, and for that reason, I'm on disability. BUT, my financial situation reminds me, each day of my life, about the importance of government, helping other people, and doing all that you can for others, no matter my set backs. Our government has saved my life. I've had countless surgeries and have made it to age 34, and I know I'll have many more surgeries, but I'll also know that my government and people like you value my life and are there for me. Therefore, I must be there for them.

I sold some of my belongings during the general election in order to donate money to Hillary and I held a Halloween event with many of my friends to help raise money and register people to vote in NC.

So, just because I have only a small income, I always make sure to set some aside to help others.

Sorry for the long reply, I just wanted you to know that your offer surprised me and touched me. But, don't make it in my name, if you donate more, do it in your name. If it gets close, I'll find a way. I always do.

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### LostOne4Ever

(9,550 posts)[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=#009999]Whatever.

I will support anything that might prevent Trump from being President. Even donating to Jill Stein.[/font]

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### athena

(4,187 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Coyotl

(15,262 posts)#### Farmgirl1961

(1,514 posts)When I donated, the total amount was about $1.3 million, just a bit more than 1/2 way there. It may be a long shot -- who knows what will happen, but we've got to keep trying!

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Farmgirl1961

(1,514 posts)Every time I hit refresh, another $50 to $100 dollar donation increase. While nobody knows the outcome, it is AWESOME to see so many people pitching in their dollars for this.

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### KatyBR

(186 posts)They also point to evidence Russian hackers infiltrated the Democratic National Committee and potentially a top adviser to Hillary Clinton's campaign as evidence of both ability and willingness. Hackers compromised voter records in Illinois and attempted to breach voting systems in a handful of other states prior to the election.

Here is Stein's Recount Site: https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/recount

#### Farmgirl1961

(1,514 posts)She may very well hit $2 million by the end of tonight!

#### liquid diamond

(1,917 posts)I wish Florida was included.

#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### liquid diamond

(1,917 posts)that in another thread. Yet another reason to hate that fucking state. They gave us W twice and now trump.

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)So who knows!

#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### Land Shark

(6,346 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)Another million to go!

#### Farmgirl1961

(1,514 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### cilla4progress

(25,435 posts)WOWOW! Hopeful for the 1st time in 2 weeks! This is a great strategy not coming from the Dems, Hillary or Obama!!

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### musicblind

(4,558 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### flamingdem

(39,782 posts)So happy for a change

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)Now the rest of the money is for the last one!

Wisconsin - deadline this Friday! $1.1 million

Pennsylvania - deadline Monday. $500,000

Michigan - deadline next Wednesday. $ 600,000

#### Farmgirl1961

(1,514 posts)but there's enough to get Wisconsin going and Pennsylvania!

#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Farmgirl1961

(1,514 posts)$1,979,371.47.......!!!!!

#### jimlup

(8,002 posts)critical votes from Hillary. But I donated $11.... I want to know if there were anomalies on election night and this will help shed light on that question.

#### KewlKat

(5,640 posts)around 6 to 7 million total to cover lawyers and recount workers wages.

Maybe they will revise the goal?

2,002,000 right now.

#### trueblue2007

(17,754 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### cilla4progress

(25,435 posts)2.5 easy peasy!

America finally stands up!

#### prairierose

(2,147 posts)I could only give $10 but I figure,every little bit helps.

#### Grown2Hate

(2,094 posts)#### cilla4progress

(25,435 posts)What now??!!!!

#### Grown2Hate

(2,094 posts)binding recount that ensures our votes were counted accurately. I'm very interested to see what is uncovered here. I hope it's something more than just that Rump actually found a way to localize his support and win the Electoral College while getting SLAUGHTERED in the popular vote; I hope something is unearthed that throws the results into question. I'm on pins and needles (yet, not getting my hopes up).

#### cilla4progress

(25,435 posts)Just fuck him up if nothing more. Though I want more!

Looking at Palast's tweets from this morning she doesn't have a very threshold to exede Trump.

#### musicblind

(4,558 posts)Since a recount is not an audit, do you think they will know if the machines have been hacked or anything?

Will it be a hand recount?

#### Grown2Hate

(2,094 posts)audit as part of the recount process, or, otherwise, that's the point? Her mission statement on the site seems to imply that she wants to check into the authenticity of the count overall (Election Integrity), so I would hope that part of the request/demand is for there to be an auditing system in place.

#### tinrobot

(11,337 posts)She may need more money for lawyers, etc, to avoid roadblocks thrown out by the GOP. It is going to be a fight.

So, don't stop donating!

#### Farmgirl1961

(1,514 posts)They'll be needing lots of volunteers for this effort. I live in Oregon...otherwise I'd sign up in a flash.

#### cilla4progress

(25,435 posts)Hitting refresh obsessively on Jill's site?

She's at $2.43 now!!

#### musicblind

(4,558 posts)Stuff like this never actually happens!

#### musicblind

(4,558 posts)Now I guess we wait for the recount to happen?

#### Grey Lemercier

(1,429 posts)#### Grown2Hate

(2,094 posts)we've only seen the TIP of this iceberg. The money will POUR in if there's even a CHANCE at uncovering something nefarious. Again, not getting my HOPES up, but holding a small candle nonetheless...

#### briv1016

(1,570 posts)Apparently the prospect of having to sit through Thanksgiving dinner with your extended family is a VERY powerful fundraising motivator. I expect a second peak after 3pm during the meal and immediately after.

#### Riverman100

(283 posts)After i get paid tomorrow, I will check the bills that are due and contribute what I can. If everyone does SOMETHING, we just might make this happen! It doesn't have to be $1000 or $500 or $50 or $10. Do SOMETHING!

#### Coyotl

(15,262 posts)#### Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)Let's take a look at these states.

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)**More money Stein's recount has more lawyers, publicists to force MSM to cover this, security. She needs a war chest.**https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/recount

https://twitter.com/AndreaChalupa/status/801783537942794240

#### Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)Let's do this thing.

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### mobeau69

(11,401 posts)#### edhopper

(34,413 posts)couldn't afford $50, but we can't afford not to do this.

#### UCmeNdc

(9,635 posts)#### Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)#### Coyotl

(15,262 posts)Nov 23, 03:00 PM half a million

Nov 24, 09:00 AM $3.5 million pledged.

That's** $2,800 a minute** +/-

This may break some records for political fundraising.

#### PatSeg

(49,533 posts)I just donated!

#### UCmeNdc

(9,635 posts)I donated again!

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Ruffhowse

(1,444 posts)Just donated $100. Dug deep to afford it, but it's too important not to.

#### quantumjunkie

(244 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### mobeau69

(11,401 posts)#### List left

(625 posts)Donated last night and will donate again when we hit $4,500,000.00.

We will need a third goal and I want to keep the momentum going.

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### RKP5637

(67,112 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)Goal is 7 million

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### tavernier

(13,019 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### UCmeNdc

(9,635 posts)Do not want any excuses.

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### UCmeNdc

(9,635 posts)Michigan: http://www.jill2016.com/recountmi

Pennsylvania: http://www.jill2016.com/recountpa

Wisconsin: http://www.jill2016.com/recountw

Information links from this DU member's post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512626138

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)Andrea Chalupa

?@AndreaChalupa Andrea Chalupa Retweeted Dr. Jill Stein

**You don't have to be a resident of WI, MI, PA to be an observer. Sign up here! #AuditTheVote #Recount 2016Andrea Chalupa added,**

Dr. Jill Stein @DrJillStein

Democracy needs you to be a #Recount2016 volunteer.

http://jill2016.com/recountWI

http://jill2016.com/recountMI

…

https://twitter.com/AndreaChalupa/status/802280823202414592

#### Glassunion

(10,201 posts)This is an absurd waste of money.

#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### oberliner

(58,724 posts)Be interested to see a detailed account of how that 3.6 million (and counting) gets spent.

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### oberliner

(58,724 posts)So the rest goes to...?

#### womanofthehills

(9,104 posts)and any extra money possibly another state

#### oberliner

(58,724 posts)When she met her first goal, she bumped up the fees.

#### flamingdem

(39,782 posts)#### oberliner

(58,724 posts)Here's the original wording:

"Those are filing fees alone. The costs associated with recounts are a function of state law. Attorney's fees are likely to be another $1 million."

Here's after it was changed:

"Those are filing fees alone. The costs associated with recounts are a function of state law. Attorney's fees are likely to be another $2-3 million, then there are the costs of the statewide recount observers in all three states."

You will note that the wording is identical in the two versions except the amount of the attorney's fees changed and the additional text about observers was added.

#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### jake335544

(53 posts)over 6 mil

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### jmg257

(11,996 posts)"Updated. The Wisconsin Elections Commission has denied a request by Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein to perform a recount of ballots by hand and she is prepared to go to court to challenge the decision, according to media reports. The recount will begin Thursday if payment for the process is received by Tuesday."

"Stein is going to need to go to court, and if the 2000 recount is a guide, she will need to raise a great deal of money, because most of the critical battles in the process will play out in court, not at tables in precincts around the state."

#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)goal is now 9,500,000

#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### flamingdem

(39,782 posts)We're lucky she took it on, time to donate again

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### KewlKat

(5,640 posts)as the number is rising very slowly.

Anyone know how much time Jill has to raise the money? I know she will probably have more to pay WI and then there are legal fees. Don't suppose there is any way that the Clinton camp can help out if they had any funds remaining. I never heard if they still had campaign debt to retire.

#### SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)She's taken in $6.7 million, minimum

She's paid out $3.5 million to Wisconsin, ~$1 million to Michigan, and probably no more than $150,000 to Pennsylvania. If she doesn't raise another dime, she's sitting on $2.1 million, and legal fees can't have been that much.

She padded the goal in the beginning, which gave her a little wiggle room when Wisconsin gave their $3.5 million estimate.

#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### iluvtennis

(20,462 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### RoccoR2

(90 posts)what will she do with those million$ ?

#### jake335544

(53 posts)It's outlined on her site what she will do with it. Donate to election integrity groups like Black Box Voting and FairVote etc. FEC requirements are extrememly strict with what she can use this money toward.

n/t

#### RoccoR2

(90 posts)It would be Trump 280 , Clinton 258. Still not enough. Who really thinks Pennsylvania will flip too ?

Point being please save your money and if you want to give to help send your money to Dems

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)Electoral Voters needed to flip!

#### apcalc

(4,494 posts)HRC picked up 23 K the other day

Trump ahead by .8 percent

If it gets to .5 percent , state must do mandatory recount

#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### flamingdem

(39,782 posts)hooray

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### triron

(22,240 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### jmg257

(11,996 posts)Trump has lost 302 votes.

Trump has gained 386 votes.

Trump net vote gain by Day 5: 84 votes

Clinton has lost 293 votes.

Clinton has gained 351 votes.

Clinton net vote gain by Day 5: 58 votes

Trump total net gain: 26 votes

Michigan recount expands, statewide hand counting of 4.8 million ballots per judge decision.

PA is awaiting federal ruling.

#### Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)#### jmg257

(11,996 posts)#### LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)woohoo!

#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### jmg257

(11,996 posts)They need us!!

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#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### flamingdem

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#### Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)#### philosslayer

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