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Charlie Crist is Now A Democrat (Original Post) BlueDemKev Dec 2012 OP
I wouldn't be surprised if he has national ambitions. nt pnwmom Dec 2012 #1
How do you spell opportunist? C-R-I-S-T. FLAprogressive Dec 2012 #2
How about a moderate who would like to be with a SANE party? So enough of the purist SHIT ! RBInMaine Dec 2012 #8
Do you think he'd be switching parties if he survived the Senate primary? I don't. FLAprogressive Dec 2012 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author bahrbearian Dec 2012 #19
A right-of-center moderate is one we can do without. Chan790 Dec 2012 #44
his only loyalty is to crist mgcgulfcoast Dec 2012 #18
If he only wanted power he would not have left the GOP Maximumnegro Dec 2012 #27
he left because he was defeated mgcgulfcoast Dec 2012 #31
Give him some credit pbrower2a Dec 2012 #38
So you would never accept a former Republican into the Democratic party? DCBob Dec 2012 #21
Exactly! I just called him a political opportunist in another thread. forestpath Dec 2012 #22
i agree mgcgulfcoast Dec 2012 #33
Well guess what this means Robbins Dec 2012 #3
we could do a lot better. but if it's him vs. pRick Scott I'll hold my nose and vote for him. FLAprogressive Dec 2012 #4
He would probably be more progressive as a Democrat democrattotheend Dec 2012 #14
When he stood against the Republicans trying to suppress voters when he was Governor LiberalFighter Dec 2012 #24
+1 Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2012 #37
Oh, yeah? pbrower2a Dec 2012 #39
????? I'm not saying that Pence isn't going to try a lot Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2012 #41
That sounds just fine to me. GO CRIST ! RBInMaine Dec 2012 #9
If he hasn't changed his views but only his party, limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #5
Please, enough of the pissing on Cheerios purity. Sheesh. RBInMaine Dec 2012 #7
Re: Pissing on the Cheerios limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #12
What are you babbling about Maximumnegro Dec 2012 #28
babbling? limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #30
What about Mr. Vulture Capitalist? pbrower2a Dec 2012 #40
Sanity is not purity. Chan790 Dec 2012 #45
this type of thinking is..... DCBob Dec 2012 #20
So maybe Rubio can change parties and become a Democrat and DU will throw a party. limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #29
If he had some "awakening" and was truly sincere.. why not? DCBob Dec 2012 #34
cool limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #35
Crist was a very loyal Republican... BlueDemKev Dec 2012 #46
A very tiny bit treestar Dec 2012 #26
WELCOME ABOARD GOVERNOR. Welcome to PROGRESS. Welcome to MODERATION. Welcome to SANITY ! RBInMaine Dec 2012 #6
Not surprised at all. Moderate Repubs really have no place in the modern Republican party anymore. Jennicut Dec 2012 #11
Exactly. An ethical, moderate Republican who wants a political career has only one serious choice. Rowdyboy Dec 2012 #13
We need to change the definition of center LiberalFighter Dec 2012 #25
Marco Rubio. Tutonic Dec 2012 #15
I'm a Floridian and Crist was my governor. BlueStater Dec 2012 #16
+1 Daniel537 Dec 2012 #17
Not a Surprise -- Democrats of Today are what Republicans were 5-10 years ago boingboinh Dec 2012 #23
"Democrats of Today are what Republicans were 5-10 years ago" CheapShotArtist Dec 2012 #32
Are you actually suggesting we not allow people to join our party? great white snark Dec 2012 #42
... LP2K12 Dec 2012 #36
Imagine in Crist decided to seek re-election for Governorship in 2010 as a Republican NPolitics1979 Dec 2012 #43

Response to RBInMaine (Reply #8)

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
44. A right-of-center moderate is one we can do without.
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 06:24 PM
Dec 2012

We're not the party of the center-right and big business.

Charlie Crist is the new Arlen Specter. It's all about themselves for these kinds of right-wing "me first" political narcissists.

A sane party would have told him that changing his registration meant nothing if he wasn't willing to move his positions.

Maximumnegro

(1,134 posts)
27. If he only wanted power he would not have left the GOP
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 03:22 PM
Dec 2012

back in the day. Sorry but that makes no sense, unless you're also saying that he was smart enough and forward thinking enough to see that Dems would be gaining control by now. In which case we can use someone that smart on our side for sure.

So which is it.

pbrower2a

(132 posts)
38. Give him some credit
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 08:37 PM
Dec 2012

Democrats have been gaining voters as the old "Eisenhower/Rockefeller Republicans" have abandoned an increasingly superstitious, bigoted, corrupt, and intolerant Party that serves the economic interests of only a small cadre of tycoons, executives, and big landowners. Countries have been run on principles that the GOP now offers... and they were monstrosities.

We have won some elections in recent years because of that exodus from a Party that Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, and Dwight Eisenhower would now consider disgusting. We can't be purists, because if we are we end up with leaders like Governors Scott Walker, Rick Scott, and now Rick "Quisling" Snyder. At least we aren't getting the hucksters of fundamentalist religion. Please welcome these new Democrats; we need them.

We need to protect the working people of America, women's rights, the public sector (from raids by profiteers), educational quality, and the environment. Scum like Karl Rove, Grover Norquist, and right-wing fronts for the GOP like Americans for Prosperity (only for 5% of the public), Doublecross America, and Fascism Works. It is far better that we get some people with a respect for human dignity and decency and win some critical elections than that we let this country have to choose between Bolshevism and Fascism.

Charlie Crist is a saint contrasted to the current Gauleiter of Florida.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
21. So you would never accept a former Republican into the Democratic party?
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 11:45 AM
Dec 2012

Thats a really short sighted, narrow mentality.

mgcgulfcoast

(1,127 posts)
33. i agree
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 06:47 PM
Dec 2012

and if he were ever elected he would stab us in the back in a split second if it meant more power for him.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
3. Well guess what this means
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 12:17 AM
Dec 2012

He's running for the democratic nomination for governor In 2014 to beat Scott out of the governor's mansion.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
14. He would probably be more progressive as a Democrat
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 02:12 AM
Dec 2012

If he was as good as he was as a Republican, I figure he'd probably be better as a Democrat. He was pretty brave for taking a stand in favor of voting rights in his state knowing it would hurt his party's nominee for President.

LiberalFighter

(50,795 posts)
24. When he stood against the Republicans trying to suppress voters when he was Governor
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 01:48 PM
Dec 2012

I rather have him for our Governor than the one we have now or will in January. We will actually have it worse in Indiana starting in 2013.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,396 posts)
37. +1
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 08:36 PM
Dec 2012

Here in the red-state hell known as Indiana as well. I'm glad that President Obama won re-election but disgusted by Pence's win (I knew he was favored to win but Gregg ended up closer than expected). I don't like how our state has gone backwards over the past 8 years and especially the past 2. I have a feeling that, after the next 4 years, we might actually yearn for Daniels. *ugh* It already sounds like, however, Pence isn't going to be able to just ask for whatever he wants from even a Republican supermajority legislature and get it (re: taxes). Hopefully, the Democrats can pick up the pieces and come back stronger in 2014 and get ourselves back in the governor's mansion in 2016 after a (too-long) 12-year hiatus.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,396 posts)
41. ????? I'm not saying that Pence isn't going to try a lot
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 08:44 PM
Dec 2012

and the Republicans will probably deliver more often than not for him. They can pretty much push whatever they want and Democrats will have to just sit back and watch. Just pointing out that some Republicans are already starting to grumble about some of Pence's tax plans.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
5. If he hasn't changed his views but only his party,
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 12:23 AM
Dec 2012

then the Democratic Party just became a bit more conservative.

Not cause for celebration in my book.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
12. Re: Pissing on the Cheerios
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 12:44 AM
Dec 2012

When we can't even trust the national Dems to protect Social Security and Medicare, that's kind of pissing in my cheerios.

We need to check out people's positions on these issues people we celebrate.


Maximumnegro

(1,134 posts)
28. What are you babbling about
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 03:25 PM
Dec 2012

Did I miss the news, cause I don't recall reading anything about SS and Medicare being on the table lately. Or is this just the usual Dem habit of living in the last election, except now it's shifted to 2008 instead of 2004 (progress at least).

pbrower2a

(132 posts)
40. What about Mr. Vulture Capitalist?
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 08:43 PM
Dec 2012

Just be glad that Democrats gained some Senate seats -- and re-elected Barack Obama.

Mitt Romney could have sold the assets of Social Security and Medicare to the 'private sector' while letting the profiteers decide what they will give in return to recipients. That is his M.O.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
45. Sanity is not purity.
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 06:33 PM
Dec 2012

I'll piss on whatever I'd like, thanks. Charlie Crist is a center-right big-business fiscal-conservative social-moderate narcissist who only swapped parties in order to be able to run for Governor with a major-party nomination; as an added bonus his nomination insures there is no progressive voice in the race. Oh wait, now I see why you're such a big fan.

He's much more likely to beat Scott in a two person race than he is as an independent third candidate; that alone and not platform is what he cares about. That makes him an opportunist, not a real Democrat.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
29. So maybe Rubio can change parties and become a Democrat and DU will throw a party.
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 05:56 PM
Dec 2012

That'll make it all better

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
34. If he had some "awakening" and was truly sincere.. why not?
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:32 PM
Dec 2012

however somehow I doubt that would ever happen.

Crist has had issues with the Republican party for quite sometime so this was not all that unexpected.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
46. Crist was a very loyal Republican...
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 04:35 PM
Dec 2012

...who tried to pass himself off as a right-wing conservative. Unfortunately, he was way too moderate for what the Republican Party has evolved into.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
11. Not surprised at all. Moderate Repubs really have no place in the modern Republican party anymore.
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 12:39 AM
Dec 2012

I think he will run against Scott and most likely win.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
13. Exactly. An ethical, moderate Republican who wants a political career has only one serious choice.
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 01:05 AM
Dec 2012

Switch parties. Crist will probably do pretty well for himself as a Democrat but I really hope he positions himself in the center, rather than a conservative Dem.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
16. I'm a Floridian and Crist was my governor.
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 05:08 AM
Dec 2012

I thought he did a good job in that position even if he was once one of "them". I'll gladly vote for him against the miserable douchebag this state has as governor right now.

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
17. +1
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 08:30 AM
Dec 2012

I wish he had just ran for re-election in 2010. He was still very popular as Governor. Either way, he'll get my vote again this time if he runs.

 

boingboinh

(290 posts)
23. Not a Surprise -- Democrats of Today are what Republicans were 5-10 years ago
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 01:17 PM
Dec 2012

Our party is shifting more to the Right that it is allowing those who are Republicans, who feel their own party keeps going more and more right, to have a place they can call home since our party's new ideals are those rejected republicans.

I'd imagine in 10 years from now people like Bachman and Santorum will be able to join our party too and people will call thim radical liberals.

So welcome aboard.

CheapShotArtist

(333 posts)
32. "Democrats of Today are what Republicans were 5-10 years ago"
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 06:43 PM
Dec 2012

Nope...it's more like what the R's were 30 years ago. Bush was president 5-10 years ago, and they were almost as dangerous then as they are now. I don't see Democrats going around doing things like blowing racial dog whistles and trying to get rid of the EPA.

great white snark

(2,646 posts)
42. Are you actually suggesting we not allow people to join our party?
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 09:26 PM
Dec 2012

When you joined you did know that we have many moderate members, no?

"since our party's new ideals are those rejected republicans"--complete horseshit. New ideals from raising taxes on the rich to immigrant amnesty never were or will be Republicans'.

NPolitics1979

(613 posts)
43. Imagine in Crist decided to seek re-election for Governorship in 2010 as a Republican
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 04:14 PM
Dec 2012

Instead of running for the US Senate in 2010 as an Independent against Rubio-R who was likely to be the Republican nominee and general election winner. Would Crist-R survive in the primary against Scott-R. Democrats would have nominated a second tier candidate to challenge Crist-R(assuming he won the Republican nomination over Scott-R) or Crist-I(Crist-I pulled a Lieberman after losing in the Republican primary to Scott-R). Crist-I wins in the November General Election. 2012-Crist(I-FL) endores Bill Nelson's re-election bid to the US Senate. and Barack Obama's re-election to White House. 2013/2014-toward the end of his term- He becomes a Democrat. 2016- He becomes the Democratic Nominee to challenge Rubio-R.

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