2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCharlie Crist is Now A Democrat
Former Florida Gov. Charlie Crist sent out a tweet earlier today announcing that he has officially changed his party registration to the Democratic Party.
Welcome to the 99%, Governor!
pnwmom
(108,959 posts)FLAprogressive
(6,771 posts)Is Closet Case Charlie gonna be for marriage equality?
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)FLAprogressive
(6,771 posts)Response to RBInMaine (Reply #8)
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Chan790
(20,176 posts)We're not the party of the center-right and big business.
Charlie Crist is the new Arlen Specter. It's all about themselves for these kinds of right-wing "me first" political narcissists.
A sane party would have told him that changing his registration meant nothing if he wasn't willing to move his positions.
mgcgulfcoast
(1,127 posts)he wants power and do anything it takes to get it. he is a jackass.
Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)back in the day. Sorry but that makes no sense, unless you're also saying that he was smart enough and forward thinking enough to see that Dems would be gaining control by now. In which case we can use someone that smart on our side for sure.
So which is it.
mgcgulfcoast
(1,127 posts)not because he was a democrat. he is a weasel.
pbrower2a
(132 posts)Democrats have been gaining voters as the old "Eisenhower/Rockefeller Republicans" have abandoned an increasingly superstitious, bigoted, corrupt, and intolerant Party that serves the economic interests of only a small cadre of tycoons, executives, and big landowners. Countries have been run on principles that the GOP now offers... and they were monstrosities.
We have won some elections in recent years because of that exodus from a Party that Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, and Dwight Eisenhower would now consider disgusting. We can't be purists, because if we are we end up with leaders like Governors Scott Walker, Rick Scott, and now Rick "Quisling" Snyder. At least we aren't getting the hucksters of fundamentalist religion. Please welcome these new Democrats; we need them.
We need to protect the working people of America, women's rights, the public sector (from raids by profiteers), educational quality, and the environment. Scum like Karl Rove, Grover Norquist, and right-wing fronts for the GOP like Americans for Prosperity (only for 5% of the public), Doublecross America, and Fascism Works. It is far better that we get some people with a respect for human dignity and decency and win some critical elections than that we let this country have to choose between Bolshevism and Fascism.
Charlie Crist is a saint contrasted to the current Gauleiter of Florida.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Thats a really short sighted, narrow mentality.
forestpath
(3,102 posts)mgcgulfcoast
(1,127 posts)and if he were ever elected he would stab us in the back in a split second if it meant more power for him.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)He's running for the democratic nomination for governor In 2014 to beat Scott out of the governor's mansion.
FLAprogressive
(6,771 posts)democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)If he was as good as he was as a Republican, I figure he'd probably be better as a Democrat. He was pretty brave for taking a stand in favor of voting rights in his state knowing it would hurt his party's nominee for President.
LiberalFighter
(50,795 posts)I rather have him for our Governor than the one we have now or will in January. We will actually have it worse in Indiana starting in 2013.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,396 posts)Here in the red-state hell known as Indiana as well. I'm glad that President Obama won re-election but disgusted by Pence's win (I knew he was favored to win but Gregg ended up closer than expected). I don't like how our state has gone backwards over the past 8 years and especially the past 2. I have a feeling that, after the next 4 years, we might actually yearn for Daniels. *ugh* It already sounds like, however, Pence isn't going to be able to just ask for whatever he wants from even a Republican supermajority legislature and get it (re: taxes). Hopefully, the Democrats can pick up the pieces and come back stronger in 2014 and get ourselves back in the governor's mansion in 2016 after a (too-long) 12-year hiatus.
pbrower2a
(132 posts)Michigan in EIGHT DAYS as the GOP has adopted Machiavellian 'principles' as a standard.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,396 posts)and the Republicans will probably deliver more often than not for him. They can pretty much push whatever they want and Democrats will have to just sit back and watch. Just pointing out that some Republicans are already starting to grumble about some of Pence's tax plans.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)then the Democratic Party just became a bit more conservative.
Not cause for celebration in my book.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)When we can't even trust the national Dems to protect Social Security and Medicare, that's kind of pissing in my cheerios.
We need to check out people's positions on these issues people we celebrate.
Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)Did I miss the news, cause I don't recall reading anything about SS and Medicare being on the table lately. Or is this just the usual Dem habit of living in the last election, except now it's shifted to 2008 instead of 2004 (progress at least).
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)pbrower2a
(132 posts)Just be glad that Democrats gained some Senate seats -- and re-elected Barack Obama.
Mitt Romney could have sold the assets of Social Security and Medicare to the 'private sector' while letting the profiteers decide what they will give in return to recipients. That is his M.O.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)I'll piss on whatever I'd like, thanks. Charlie Crist is a center-right big-business fiscal-conservative social-moderate narcissist who only swapped parties in order to be able to run for Governor with a major-party nomination; as an added bonus his nomination insures there is no progressive voice in the race. Oh wait, now I see why you're such a big fan.
He's much more likely to beat Scott in a two person race than he is as an independent third candidate; that alone and not platform is what he cares about. That makes him an opportunist, not a real Democrat.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)why we have rubio in the senate.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)That'll make it all better
DCBob
(24,689 posts)however somehow I doubt that would ever happen.
Crist has had issues with the Republican party for quite sometime so this was not all that unexpected.
Hey it's an open Party, we have to take everybody.
Even this dude:
http://www.youtube.com/user/fladems/videos?sort=dd&query=crist&flow=list&view=0
I wonder if he regrets voting for George Bush.
BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)...who tried to pass himself off as a right-wing conservative. Unfortunately, he was way too moderate for what the Republican Party has evolved into.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Which can be overcome by a new young person who is left of center.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Jennicut
(25,415 posts)I think he will run against Scott and most likely win.
Rowdyboy
(22,057 posts)Switch parties. Crist will probably do pretty well for himself as a Democrat but I really hope he positions himself in the center, rather than a conservative Dem.
LiberalFighter
(50,795 posts)to one that is more the left of what they try to tell us.
Tutonic
(2,522 posts)BlueStater
(7,596 posts)I thought he did a good job in that position even if he was once one of "them". I'll gladly vote for him against the miserable douchebag this state has as governor right now.
I wish he had just ran for re-election in 2010. He was still very popular as Governor. Either way, he'll get my vote again this time if he runs.
boingboinh
(290 posts)Our party is shifting more to the Right that it is allowing those who are Republicans, who feel their own party keeps going more and more right, to have a place they can call home since our party's new ideals are those rejected republicans.
I'd imagine in 10 years from now people like Bachman and Santorum will be able to join our party too and people will call thim radical liberals.
So welcome aboard.
CheapShotArtist
(333 posts)Nope...it's more like what the R's were 30 years ago. Bush was president 5-10 years ago, and they were almost as dangerous then as they are now. I don't see Democrats going around doing things like blowing racial dog whistles and trying to get rid of the EPA.
great white snark
(2,646 posts)When you joined you did know that we have many moderate members, no?
"since our party's new ideals are those rejected republicans"--complete horseshit. New ideals from raising taxes on the rich to immigrant amnesty never were or will be Republicans'.
he has my vote.
NPolitics1979
(613 posts)Instead of running for the US Senate in 2010 as an Independent against Rubio-R who was likely to be the Republican nominee and general election winner. Would Crist-R survive in the primary against Scott-R. Democrats would have nominated a second tier candidate to challenge Crist-R(assuming he won the Republican nomination over Scott-R) or Crist-I(Crist-I pulled a Lieberman after losing in the Republican primary to Scott-R). Crist-I wins in the November General Election. 2012-Crist(I-FL) endores Bill Nelson's re-election bid to the US Senate. and Barack Obama's re-election to White House. 2013/2014-toward the end of his term- He becomes a Democrat. 2016- He becomes the Democratic Nominee to challenge Rubio-R.