2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe emails were PHYSICALLY on a laptop shared by huma and anthony
Okay guys there seems to be a lot of confusion over this so let me try my best to basically explain what happened and whats going on.
If you guys remember a sometime back, a british tabloid released text messages between an underage girl and anthony weiner. Because this fucker couldnt keep hes dick inside hes pants it started a investigation by the NYPD sex crime division.
(MANY of these people in the NYPD and law enforcement divisions have deep loyalty ties to rudy guilaini and Chris christie. Watch the movie cop land and you'll get an idea of what i mean. )
The nypd special division who is investigating anthony weiner found the laptop with 10,000 or so emails PHYSICALLY on the laptop. No this was not a laptop that remotely accessed emails or had a auto login password to an email account. BUT PHYSICAL downloads of over 10,000 emails related directly to huma and the work she does with clinton.
The reason Comey came out with this 11 days before the election is because huma signed a perjury agreement and other documents stating that she turned over EVERYTHING to the FBI related to the email server investigation. The 10,000 emails found on a device NOT turned over to the FBI breaks those documents. THIS IS WHY comey is doing this because IRRELEVANT of what are in those emails he is planning on convening a grand jury to indict huma. Huma saying " i have no idea how the emails got on her husbands laptop" basically means NOTHING to do FBI at this point and they arent going to buy the " oops i forgot" excuse anymore. They are after blood.
Make no mistake.
Comey is after the clintons and he knows at the very very least hes got huma thats basically a slam dunk as having those emails on a unsecured laptop is in complete violation of the agreements of the investigation that ended in july. The reason this is important is because if those emails on the laptop turn out to be a nothingburger against clinton. Comey can cover hes ass and say at the very least i got huma. meaning wether he takes down huma or anyone else hes ass covered as Even an indictment against a senior clinton staff member was enough to bring this out before the vote and he can fall back on it.
sigh..anyway..
At this point there is a rumour there is a tape of trump using the N word. I would basically release this and a video of trump beating a poppy on Monday morning to whoever is listening.
Edit to add - This thread is going to get removed and thats fine. BUT keep a close eye on this name Preet Bharara. In fact just remember 3 names out of all of this.
(Preet Bharara, Chris christie, Rudy Guiliani)
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)agnostic102
(198 posts)this is where its gets a bit dicey. The laptop was a shared laptop between huma and anthony with anthony being the main person to use it. But the FBI does not give 2 shits. atleast not at this stage of the game. Huma used the laptop, its not a secured laptop, it contained emails relevent to the investigation and it was not turned over to the FBI as per the perjury agreement huma signed.
The other issue is not just the fact that it was physically on the laptop but the sheer AMOUNT of the emails. You might be able to make the case that you downloaded couple of emails on a device as a slip of memory or a good reason you can come up with. 10,000? yeah that number is bit tougher.. like a lot of bit..
HERE is what doesnt make sense to me AT ALL.. how the fuck did those emails end up on that laptop that a rat bastard like anthony could get a hold off. and two if huma didnt put them there (which if you trust huma and clinton this is a very pluasable explanation) WHY IN GODS NAME DID anthony not delete those emails before the NYPD came snooping around. ONCE the british tabloid text messages were released.
ANTHONY weiner with a bleach kit, hand sanitizer whatever the fuck he could get a hold off of should have been busy day and night deleting any and everything he could that could get him and hes wife in trouble. The fact that the NYPD detective just walked on this 10,000 emails REAKS of stink. It does make it believeble huma didnt know about them as IF SHE DID , then any same person and smart person (irelevent of wether they are innocent or guilty) would have been busy deleting the shit out of those.
The fact that those emails were NOT deleted before the authorities got to them means, that either huma didnt know about them (which makes sense) or she KNEW about them but didnt turn them over to the FBI or forgot to delete them before the FBI came knocking which with how smart HUMA IS can no way be even remotely true.
or last but not least..
Anthony kept those emails and knew about them and basically said nothing. which if true.. i hope this bastards not only goes to jail but accidenly throws himself of a building because you dont release the amount of damage that this one single man has done.
Foggyhill
(1,060 posts)I won't go further, because your rant pissed me off a lot
LiberalFighter
(50,506 posts)Foggyhill
(1,060 posts)Got that buddy, stay in your field
LiberalFighter
(50,506 posts)stonecutter357
(12,682 posts)jehop61
(1,735 posts)Glad you will help us uninformed DUers with the "facts" as you know them. We are so grateful.....
zenabby
(364 posts)"Thank you for your concern" messages all the time. This was useful information. It helps us understand what Comey might be thinking. I AM so grateful - for real. This is our thread, we are all concerned for the welfare of our country, and our candidate, that's why we are here. Really no need to say "Thank you for your concern, we'l take it up from here".
It's not useful information. The guy is just making up bullshit with no evidence.
LisaL
(44,962 posts)Where is the proof of these claims?
I hate people posting here with no links to the information they post nor any attribution. Just their superior knowledge we poor folks need to read and believe..
zenabby
(364 posts)Agreed, we do need links, and some source. But some of it is being talked about everywhere else - Huma is telling everyone she has no idea how the emails got into that device, and she has under oath said she has handed over all devices and this is not one of them: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-aide-huma-abedin-has-told-people-she-doesnt-know-how-her-emails-wound-up-on-her-husbands-computer/2016/10/29/1d30c2b8-9e15-11e6-a0ed-ab0774c1eaa5_story.html
I'l also talking in general about "Thank you for your concern" threads.
No one said every single word in the original post is wrong. But the important parts are made up bullshit. Why are you defending this guy?
zenabby
(364 posts)But I hate the passive aggressiveness of "Thank you for your concern". I've seen that whenever anyone has dared to say anything that may not go with the mindset of the responder. I may have over reacted to this one since I've seen those responses all over.
That said, without evidence, I tend to (in my heart) "feel" that this is a way to get to Clinton via Huma. And I want to understand how those emails ended up in the computer. Before you accuse me of being a traitor in costume, I can assure you I HEART Hillary with all my heart, do not waver from my belief that she is one of the most inspiring and high integrity person I've seen. I am also a software engineer, and I am looking for answers that make sense.
I have seen Comey called Asswipe and many other terrible names on this group right after the news broke - no one asked for links for disputed that. It was pure opinion. I am not in favor of that either. Obviously I don't agree, but what was he thinking? Why did he do it? I'd like to give some time, gather evidence and think thru things before jumping to a conclusion.
agnostic102
(198 posts)here isnt remote access. See theres ONE MAIN way millions of us access emails. These emails can be accessed from anywhere.
Meaning.. i work for the CIA (an example) i come over your house. I need to access email i ask to use your laptop and login using my user id and password. officially i used your laptop to REMOTE access the emails either on a gov server or yahoo.com whatever you want to call it.
THE ISSUE HERE ISNT REMOTE ACCESS. HUMA is not beign investigated because she used dirty dickies laptop to access a secure server. THE LAPTOP HAD EMAILS ON THEM. a washington post article (hardly a bastion of right wing) states HUMA had no idea how they got there.
what the hell do does everyone think shes referring to? that she forgot to click the LOG OFF button?
zenabby
(364 posts)and someone had mentioned IMAP before. If you have a email client, it will download. Same for iphones etc as well. That could have happened? She might have setup IMAP on the common computer and forgot about it. But I am confident that anything she sent to her yahoo address to print out is not going to be classified or confidential. Probably internet articles to read.
her (Huma) issue might be perjury, but that's got nothing to do with the election.
agnostic102
(198 posts)at this point it doesnt make any difference. i didnt sleep all night and in a state of faze. this thread is going to get deleted but at the very least a few poeple out there have a better understanding of whats going on.
the point is were not the FBI , a jury, a judge. Not once ounce of what we say is going to change anything. just gonna go back to sleep i havent slept all night. Hopefully this is a nightmare and ill wake up and release it was a dream.
THAT or wake up to tape of trump using the N word... either one is fine.
You posted false shit with no evidence. That doesn't give anyone a better understanding.
zenabby
(364 posts)or did you read it somewhere? Could you point us to some links or source?
LiberalFighter
(50,506 posts)LisaL
(44,962 posts)You have made some claims that I haven't seen published.
Me too
Where is a link to this claim?
The nypd special division who is investigating anthony weiner found the laptop with 10,000 or so emails PHYSICALLY on the laptop. No this was not a laptop that remotely accessed emails or had a auto login password to an email account. BUT PHYSICAL downloads of over 10,000 emails related directly to huma and the work she does with clinton.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)Pulling that much out of your ass could lead to a prolapsed rectum.
agnostic102
(198 posts)thats fine, but the hope is right now is that those emails are dublicate emails and this will save hillary. it wont save huma. But it will hillary.
LisaL
(44,962 posts)You have made a number of claims without providing any links. Where did you get this info and why should anyone believe you if you don't have proof.
semby2
(246 posts)In other words you're a fucking moron pulling shit out of your ass and posting it here.
Delete your thread and your account.
meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)I've been reading plenty of news sites and have never read any of this. Not that it's not true or false, but you are sleuthing out this situation for us but not telling us what you are basing your claims from. I think it's fair for everyone here to ask.
DeminPennswoods
(15,246 posts)The local police don't investigate alleged sex crimes that occur across state lines. The FBI does. It's why the FBI was able to supoena Weiner's computers, phone and other electronic devices. The texts in question allegedly happened from Weiner in NY state to an underage girl in Virginia.
sinkingfeeling
(51,280 posts)laptop? If Huma turned over everything on her devices, she didn't break the agreement.
Appears to work with gun ownership. See Oregon verdict.
agnostic102
(198 posts)how classified emails work related to national security. Theres 10,000 emails that could contain serous national security information on a laptop from a man who is sending DICK pictures to 14 year old girls. The oops "how did they ever get on here " isnt going to fly.
First question out of a prosecutors mouth during grand jurry is going to be " how in gods green earth did 10,000 emails end up on a sex offenders laptop" im being over the top here but thats basically how its going to go.
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agnostic102
(198 posts)the Emails were from her. as in she personally sent 10k emails. The emails (who knows out of 10,000) were on a laptop THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN ON.
Comey has a physical document SIGNED by huma that she turned over ALL emails and ANY related information to the FBI. This includes thing as small as HAND WRITTEN NOTES.
You think suddenly finding THOUSANDS of emails PHYSICALLY on a computer during a seperate invistigation that was NOT brought to the attention of the FBI is going to go over HOW EXACTLY? you think the FBI is just going to go WHOOPSIE DAISY??? these rat bastards at the FBI are after hillary. They are doing EVERYTHING they can to bring her down.
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DLCWIdem
(1,558 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,280 posts)classified. Doing better than the FBI.
You're the best!
awake
(3,226 posts)I find it interesting that your 175 post here presents information that no one else seem to have. Please share your source of where you found out that there are 10,000 emails. At this time I can only assume you are working for some other interest than the Democratic Underground, are you now or have you ever been a supporter of Trump or any other right wing nut?
agnostic102
(198 posts)National Security
Clinton aide Huma Abedin has told people she doesnt know how her emails wound up on her husbands computer
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-aide-huma-abedin-has-told-people-she-doesnt-know-how-her-emails-wound-up-on-her-husbands-computer/2016/10/29/1d30c2b8-9e15-11e6-a0ed-ab0774c1eaa5_story.html
These means in simple terms that there were phsycial emails. Anyway at this point it doesnt matter. you dont have to believe me. Its going to be on the news in a matter of days anyway.
awake
(3,226 posts)LisaL
(44,962 posts)Those are not even direct quotes from her either.
take up with the WASHINGTON POST not me.
LisaL
(44,962 posts)You made that up.
These means in simple terms that there were phsycial emails.
In other words the item in your headline is made up bullshit because you're too fucking stupid to understand how emails work.
Delete the fucking thread!
agnostic102
(198 posts)on the laptop weren't because of remote access. It wasnt because huma used a laptop to hop on a web browser to go yahoo.com and type in her user and password. The FBI wouldnt reopen a case that could potentially bring down the entire fbi over REMOTE ACCESS.
the reason they did this is because they found physical EMAILS on electronic device NOT turned over to the FBI from a prevouse investigation. why is this so hard to understand???
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,280 posts)so how do you know what's on it?
dgibby
(9,474 posts)by their misspelled words. Always a dead giveaway.
Nay
(12,051 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,280 posts)I've been following this story and I haven't seen this info anywhere else, so I'd be interested in knowing where it's coming from. Thanks.
LisaL
(44,962 posts)doc03
(35,151 posts)now beating a puppy may do some harm. Now if you actually meant beating a poppy In don't know that may lose him some
druggie votes.
LisaL
(44,962 posts)It's those supposedly undecided voters that you could still convince either way.
agnostic102
(198 posts)The N word would be a game changer. Yes the racist supporters wouldnt change there mind. but ANY blacks or minorities supporting him and independents would.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)It could be the difference between winning and losing a few of the battleground states.
More than anything, it would force the FBI/email issue to the back burner and shine even more light on the fact that Trump's rise can be attributed to bigotry.
Ardoewaan
(144 posts)Physically does not mean anything, it could be "physically" in the cloud. If the e-mails are copies of what the FBI already had it does not matter one iota.
The word physical indicates to me that you are just meandering.
agnostic102
(198 posts)to add this name.
Preet Bharara
This fucker is the reason for all of this. mark my words. and he has deep ties to Rudy Guiliani. Im going to bed. Good night iv been up all night.
Mika
(17,751 posts)I hear EVERYONE saying "dick pic", but I've seen no pic of his fully exposed penis.
Does such a pic exist, or is the "dick pic" simply a NLP meme?
Thanks.