Crooks and Liars: the FBI has had all Huma's emails since APRIL.

[pnwmom]

Hat tip to asiliveandbreathe for pointing me to this article.

Also, to NoGoodNamesLeft for numerous attempts to explain how emails work to non-techies, an example of which I've posted below. In short, NoGoodNamesLeft explains that under the commonly used IMAP system, all your emails are simultaneously saved (or deleted) on all of the devices that you use. (Even the ones you only occasionally use.)


http://crooksandliars.com/2016/10/disagreeing-newsweeks-eichenwald-comeys

Comey may have felt compelled to issue a letter to Congress, but there was no urgency in doing so. The FBI knew in April that Abedin had copies of previously released Clinton emails on her personal devices and in the email account she shared with her husband.

The Abedin FOIA Lawsuit Deposition and FBI Notes
In a June FOIA lawsuit deposition Abedin stated she would send emails from her State email address to her personal email accounts, including one she shared with her husband, in order to print the emails from home.

Abedin also told this exact same information to the FBI when they interviewed her in April of 2016. In the released FBI notes, Abedin said she would frequently forward emails to her Yahoo account, her personal Clinton email account, and the account she shared with her husband related to his campaign activities when she wanted to print the emails, because the State system was too difficult to use.

SNIP

About the Urgency of that Letter

There was no urgency related to Comey releasing the letter to Congress now, or even in the future. The information that Abedin had forwarded State emails to personal devices, including computers, was already known. It was known by Congress, by the press, and by the people. We know this because of FBI notes, and we know this because of the FOIA lawsuit deposition.

If information was leaked that State emails were discovered on an Abedin computer because of the Anthony Weiner investigation and Congress demanded an explanation, it would have been a simple matter for Director Comey to point out that such information was already available...in the FOIA deposition, in the FBI notes, and in several online and print publications.

SNIP

Make no mistake, though, this information wasn't new. The information may have been new to the team investigating Anthony Weiner, but it wasn't new to the team that had investigated Clinton's emails. And that includes Comey, himself.


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NoGoodNamesLeft

Most incoming email servers use IMAP...so all her emails stay stored on the server and WILL sync

With EVERY device she logs into that account with FOREVER...UNTIL she deletes the damn emails...which she likely did not due because she was told not to.


My GOD do any of these morons investigating or reporting this stuff even know how incoming email servers work???

These would be the SAME emails they already saw on other devices.

Pnwmom

8. So, are you saying that if the devices are connected,

then all the emails will be duplicates?

So if any of the emails are the same, then they all are?

NoGoodNamesLeft

13. Most likely, yes...IF the email account's incoming server is IMAP

There are two types of email accounts...IMAP and POP. Most accounts today are IMAP because people use multiple devices. POP accounts will only send your new email to the first device that connects to the server. In POP accounts the emails ONLY live on the device they were opened. This is terribly inconvenient in today's high tech environment.

So this leaves IMAP email. This type of account has ALL email messages living on the server. For IMAP accounts whatever exists on the server exists EXACTLY the same across ALL devices...no exceptions. If you delete one of those emails they go poof across all devices. So, for the FBI to know if these mails are duplicates or not all they have to do is find out whether the account is configured as IMAP or POP and you can do this in the account settings right on the device. Heck, some types of accounts can ONLY use IMAP and you can check their default configuration at this website: https://www.apple.com/support/mail-settings-lookup/
One of Huma's email accounts in question was a yahoo.com email. Yahoo accounts by default are set up as IMAP. So at least those yahoo.com emails...those are all duplicates unless she went in and changed the configurations on purpose to make it so she didn't get her email on all her devices, which is highly unlikely.

[Cosmocat]

1. Mother

Fucker!

[MADem]

2. Comey violated the Hatch Act, and he disobeyed his boss, Ms. Lynch.

He needs to be prosecuted for the former, and fired/asked for his resignation for the latter.

[Coyotl]

26. Comey's boss is President Obama. He should be fired on Nov. 9, if not Monday at 8:00 AM.

[pangaia]

31. yea, right. Like THAT is going to happen..

[MADem]

32. He reports to Loretta Lynch. The FBI is well down the food chain, now, since the

Homeland Security structure has been implemented in the highest reaches of government.





Yes, POTUS selects and SENATE confirms, but he doesn't work directly for POTUS--there's a lot of layers between him and Obama.

[Coyotl]

37. Janet Reno, then the AG, was involved in firing Sessions.

But Clinton was the one doing the firing. That's what I'm going by, not having read the pertinent statues. Will be easy to look up and determine for those considering the options. But, I bet they had RNC lawyers involved in planning their little coup so as to skirt the threshold for misconduct that leads to firing. He just wrote the letter, a Congress critter released it. This is like a chess match in many ways.

With government, you need to think ahead far enough to write the laws so that you never are committing a crime. That's how things like slavery, voter suppression, gerrymandering, tax loopholes, etc., happen.

[MADem]

38. Reno and Clinton were PRE-911.

Clinton did not have a Department of Homeland Security.

The Secret Service was under Treasury, the Coast Guard under Department of Transportation (except in time of war, then Department of the Navy took them).

Our government reorganized completely after Sept 11, 2001. The FBI Director doesn't have the unfettered access that blackmailers like J. Edgar Hoover had.


He should not have been talking to Congress AT ALL about the Weiner investigation, even obliquely. He was told to zip it, and he didn't do that:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/comey-attorney-general-email_us_5814cff1e4b0390e69d094e3

Further, if anyone is talking to POTUS about national security issues, domestic or otherwise, it's more likely DNI (Justice reports to them along with other intelligence agencies under the Homeland Security umbrella). Comey ain't getting face time like Hoover used to.

[still_one]

52. You're right, it cannot be done now, has to be after the election

[Wilms]

3. That all may be true.

But did the FBI have access to ALL four of Abedin's email accts? If not, did they say something in a personal account they think could be related??

[DURHAM D]

8. You actually think she received emails marked with a header saying -

Classified from federal agencies on her other personal accounts?

Something like this:

Hi, running late. Can you pick up the dry cleaning. See you at home. I will be late.

H

[Wilms]

14. No. Not "Hi Hon".

Work related.

Look. At minimum they'll want to do a one for one audit to make sure there's nothing they have not seen before, and Abedin will get wrist slapped for forgetting about the machine and not turning it in.

[DURHAM D]

16. She told them in April about the computer at home. nt

[Wilms]

19. That's not clear.

But it sounds like she was following instructions of her lawyers...which she should. They could have screwed up and not made clear what had to be done. Or that she forgot about it. (I'm guessing it was an old machine.)

[DURHAM D]

25. It is clear. They knew. nt

[Wilms]

33. Throw me a link? n/t

[DLCWIdem]

42. There was a link in another op. Something about the FOIA

[Wilms]

44. Thanks for the tip. n/t

[MADem]

9. I would not be surprised if we learn that the Russians have video of Comey engaging in

some perverse act with a person not his spouse, and he is being blackmailed.

There's no explaining it otherwise--his judgment is horrifically poor, he's backing a losing horse, he's putting his job and pension in danger, and he is breaking US federal law in a blatantly obvious way--and he has been advised by members of his own staff (never mind his boss) to not "clue in" the committee members while the investigation is going on.

There is a mutiny going on in the FBI offices for a reason.

[pnwmom]

10. That idea at least has a logic to it. nt

[MADem]

12. He knows the rules. It has got to be either bribery, blackmail or

(use Ahhhhnuld voice) "a giant TOOOOO-mah" impacting his brain function that would cause him to act in such a blatantly partisan and illegal fashion.

[Thinkingabout]

48. Sucking up to republicans, they have been whining and he hates to see grown men cry.

I am thinking these will be duplicates. This does not clear his Trump University fraud or his sexual assaults.

[Wilms]

15. Why not Trump, or the Establishment Repubs??

Neither of them want her to win.

[MADem]

18. Trump doesn't have the skills to blackmail anyone. Putin does.

Putin has operatives all over hell and back.

Sample: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/11/us/former-putin-aide-found-in-washington-died-from-blows-to-head.html?_r=0

Until late 2014 he ran the media wing of the state’s energy giant, Gazprom, before stepping down or, more likely, being forced out. He ended up in the United States, where he and his family owned properties in Los Angeles said to be worth far more than the salary of the former government minister. And then, in November, he was found in a hotel here in Washington, the victim, the Russian state media he had helped build said, of a heart attack.

On Thursday, more than four months later, one of the questions surrounding Mr. Lesin’s death was answered: The office of the chief medical examiner in Washington announced that he had not died of a heart attack, but rather of blunt force injuries to his head....

[Wilms]

22. Plenty of people know how it's done and will do it for a price.

This whole "state actor" line is pretty thin.

[MADem]

34. Trump can't even pick a fucking campaign logo.

He chooses one that has the T humping and pumping the P, and reminds us all of TOILET PAPER. He runs his mouth, he's stupid, he's clueless. I wonder if he wipes his own ass, frankly.

But Trump's buddy, POOTIE?

He does this sort of thing with no muss, no fuss. Look how he worked up Assange and Snowden--and people still haven't figured that out, many of them. All things in time!

[Wilms]

35. Sorry. I'm just not down with the narrative. n/t

[MADem]

36. Time will reveal all, as it does. nt

[Hugin]

53. My personal pet theory on this is, it's related to some murmurings I've heard from the far right

nut jobs.

What I find amazing about their lurid descriptions of the scheme and what is happening now is that they have the same people in it we're now seeing on stage.

1) Chaffetz (R - Nowhere) and stepson of Michael Dukakis. Also, I just learned "Chaffetz's paternal grandfather was Maxwell (Max) Chaffetz (1909–1986), an FBI Special Agent, who as a rookie was involved in the apprehension of gangster Baby Face Nelson and the gunning down of gangster John Dillinger."

2) Comey (Patsy)

The plan goes like this... They hate Trump and they also hate Hillary. So, what do they do? They concoct an almost straight out of some cheap thriller plan to throw the election into the House. There their wet dream candidate (or maybe Paul Ryan depending on who you hear the story from) is chosen to be the leader of the Free World and all the white mormon guys rejoice.

Somehow, the plan is to charge Hillary with Perjury associated with the emails. Then Impeach her or declare her unfit to serve before she is confirmed by the House.

It's really really creepy to hear these people tell this story and then see it play out later.

Tell me what you think. Crazy? Right?

[MADem]

54. I think the "Putin has a video of Comey having congress with a farm animal" theory is probably

more likely!

[Hugin]

55. Maybe that's what they used to get Comey to leap on his own petard with this ill advised note.

I agree, tho. The Russians probably have way more emails than we even know about and likely a bunch on those perverted Republican hypocrites.

[OxQQme]

56. Sounds plausible to me Hugin

Having just finished the last Jack Reacher 'novel', and all of Sinclair Lewis, I have to believe there's skullduggery afoot.
Shadow government indeed.

[Hugin]

60. Thanks for your support...

I think? :worry:

The only things which ring true to me in this hyperbolic fantasy I've heard created out of their warped imaginations:

1) They've HATED (mostly what they do is hate anything and everything) living with President Obama in office for 8 years. Frankly, it's driven some of them over the edge of sanity.

2) Earlier they tried to run that no-name person against Trump at the convention.

3) There are some very dangerous ideologues led by Pence who are as close to a national office as any of them are likely to ever be.

Now, they've got what they feel is a somewhat plausible candidate in Evan McMullin. (He may even get one whole electoral vote in Utah)

4) Also, they're DESPERATE!

They realize they could never ever get elected. So, what's the next best way to get in? Get someone elected who can and then use loopholes to install themselves in office.

After this, I guess the plan is to call a Constitutional Convention and fix all of those pesky amendments some of which allow PoC to be free and women to vote.

Of course, Putin knows this is a bullshit plan... However, it does achieve what he wants, which is a weakening of the US Government and any amount of civil disruption he can encourage to distract a major NATO power. A power keeping him from following what he (and HIS backers) want. So, of course he is going to prompt these fools at every opportunity.

[DURHAM D]

17. With John Ashcroft maybe??? nt

[MADem]

27. John Ashcroft, despite his political bent, and his sketchy singing and song choices,

was a mensch when it REALLY counted.

Of course, this incident had to have happened before Comey completely lost his way, and his common sense:

https://thinkprogress.org/comey-breaks-silence-white-house-tried-to-force-incapacitated-ashcroft-to-back-spying-program-66fb293ac29#.k4kt6a2g9

[okaawhatever]

43. If you look at Comey's history, you'll see instances of integrity that make him sound like a

complete different person than the one we see now. I don't believe this was partisan. I believe there's something we all don't know right now, but hopefully will learn soon. I read quite a bit of his history when he was nominated and I would have bet a hundred bucks he wouldn't do this.

I've read that the Trump campaign forced his hand. They allegedly had the info and told Comey if he didn't release it, they would release it and paint the FBI as completely corrupt and in Hillary's pocket. Don't know if that's true, but it makes sense.

Don't get me wrong though, I believe Comey completely f$%cked this up and needs to pay for it. I just don't agree with everyone else that it was strictly to benefit Trump or the Republicans.

[MADem]

46. If he had that integrity, he'd rat out Trump and tell everyone that he tried to strongarm him.

I think he's either lost his ever-loving mind or he's being blackmailed.

I mean, really--trying to bully or bribe a federal official is a frog-march worthy crime.

[pnwmom]

40. According to this article she disclosed all 4 back in April.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/comey-wrote-bombshell-letter-to-congress-before-fbi-had-reviewed-new-emails-220219586.html

Abedin, who served as Clinton’s deputy chief of staff and held a top-secret security clearance, disclosed she had access to four email accounts while working at the State Department.

These accounts, Abedin said, included an official State Department email account, but also an account on Clinton’s private email server that Abedin used to communicate with Clinton and her top aides, as well as a personal Yahoo account. She used both the Clinton email account and the Yahoo account to “routinely” forward State Department emails and documents so she could more easily print them, she said. In addition, she told the agents, she had a separate email account that she had previously used “to support her husband’s political activities.”

Abedin’s interview — conducted by agents at the FBI’s Washington field office last April 5 — was the first tip-off that the longtime Clinton aide might have circulated official State Department material among her multiple accounts.

[Wilms]

41. Right. And that's the email accts.

Now they have a machine that's got stuff on it.

It could be only stuff they already have, but blah blah are going to check.

But is there something Abedin emailed on her own with her personal acct(/the one she shares with her husband) that Comey says may relate to the case?

[zenabby]

4. If it's forwarded to Yahoo

what does it have to do with a device? It's a cloud account = they can check it from anywhere. Seems like a co-ordinated effort.

[underthematrix]

5. And there you have it.

Comey violated the HATCH ACT and I'm guessing because TRUMP has something on him.

[asiliveandbreathe]

6. Thank you pnwmom - everyone needs to read the WHOLE article -

violation of Hatch ACT..you bet!

[pnwmom]

7. Yes, they do! Thanks for letting us know about it. nt

[guillaumeb]

11. Recommended.

To me, this story can be reduced to the media seizing on something, anything, to make the Presidential race a closer race than it obviously is. The media loves the "close race" type story.

But given how much attention has been paid by the media to Clinton's emails, her polling numbers reflect, in my view, that the voters do not consider this to be a deciding issue.

Ten more days.

[yardwork]

13. Kick

[anamandujano]

20. So the only NEWS is that Comey sent a letter he knew would be leaked for political purposes.

Do you all think this is what Gouliani was referring to last week when he said they have something up their collective a̶s̶s̶ sleeve?

[Midnight Writer]

49. My thought exactly. Rudy said there would be two big October Surprises against Hillary

He went on to say that the Trump campaign was just waiting for the right moment.

Collusion with veteran Hillary investigator Comey (he was counsel for the Republicans during Senate Whitewater hearings)?

Never under estimate the value of timing. A new "scandal" ten days before the election, another one five days before, and Trump just may peak at the exact right moment.

[anamandujano]

51. Gabby Hayes posted this link in another thread.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/10/29/1588310/-Did-FBI-Director-Comey-Break-the-Law

"Donald Trump claims that Hillary Clinton’s email controversy is “worse than Watergate.” But the real story is that FBI Director James Comey may have committed a crime similar to Watergate: using the power of his office to try to illegally influence the outcome of a presidential election.

The Hatch Act, officially called “An Act to Prevent Pernicious Political Activities“ is a longstanding law that prohibits employees in the executive branch of the federal government from active support for political candidates or campaigns.

A complaint has already been filed with the Department of Justice alleging that James Comey violated the Hatch Act:"


Rudy can share a cell with Comey.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

21. Here is a great video that explains how email servers work

Most email accounts are set to IMAP by default.

[pnwmom]

28. Thanks again!

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

30. You're welcome

Once people really understand how easy it is for the FBI to be able to say if these are new or not they are going to realize that either Trump (or Russia) has a mole in the FBI (Rudy and Eric's wife both alluded to an Oct. surprise up their sleeve) or the whole damn lot of them are a bunch of bumbling idiots.

[Coyotl]

23. Also BREAKING: Trump had the worst week ever and needed a YUUUUGE diversion.

Oct. 23. Porn star Jessica Drake claims Donald Trump offered her $10G, use of his private jet for sex

Donald Trump’s offer of $10,000 and the use of his private jet couldn’t turn a porn star into a prostitute.

Jessica Drake — whose credits include “Sex for Sale” and “Think Pink” — claims she rejected the billionaire’s crude come-ons during a 2006 golf tournament in Lake Tahoe, Calif.

“This is not acceptable behavior for anyone — much less a presidential candidate,” the adult film star said ........

Oct. 25. Donald Trump hosted wild parties with sex, cocaine and underage models: report

..... Trump allowed the attendees to do whatever drugs they wanted, the photographer said. As guests partied hard on coke and top-shelf liquor, the mogul would stroll from room to room and hook up with girls.

“He'd wander off with a couple girls. I saw him. He was getting laid like crazy," the photographer said. "Trump was at the heart of it. He loved the attention and in private, he was a total f---ing beast.” .....

Oct. 28. Former Miss Finland is 12th woman to accuse Donald Trump of sexual assault

Ninni Laaksonen, a former Miss Finland in the Miss Universe competition that Trump once owned, alleged that he ‘grabbed my butt’ during a photo shoot

A former beauty queen has become the 12th woman to openly accuse Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump of sexual assault.
Jessica Drake: porn star is 11th woman to allege Trump sexual misconduct
Read more

Ninni Laaksonen, a former Miss Finland in the Miss Universe competition that Trump once owned, alleged in an interview with the Finnish newspaper Ilta-Sanomat that Trump groped her before an appearance on The Late Show with David Letterman in 2006.

“Before the show we were photographed outside the building,” Laaksonen said, according to a translation provided by The Telegraph. “Trump stood right next to me and suddenly he squeezed my butt. He really grabbed my butt.

“I don’t think anybody saw it but I flinched and thought: ‘What is happening?’”

Laaksonen said that she had been told at other events that year that Trump found her attractive because she reminded him of his wife, Melania, whom he had married the year before.

“Somebody told me there that Trump liked me because I looked like Melania when she was younger,” Laaksonen said. “It left me disgusted.”

..............

[Lucinda]

24. KNR Thank you!

[NWCorona]

29. The issue I have with the premise of the link is that it assumes the FBI had access to everything

All devices and email accounts. The author could be correct but I think we can't say that definitely yet. My biggest fear is that Huma forwarded emails to an account that was shared by her and Anthony.

I myself have be trying to find out what kind of lead time the FBI had with the emails before they went to Comey. That would give me a better idea of what we might be dealing with.

IMHO when Comey wrote this.

“Because those emails appear to be pertinent to our investigation, I agreed that we should take appropriate steps to obtain and review them,”

I think he's talking about getting a subpoena for the emails stored on the ESP servers. Any deleted emails would still be there regardless if they were removed from the inbox.

[pnwmom]

39. Huma disclosed all 4 of her accounts last April.

What the FBI did to follow up on that disclosure is unclear.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/comey-wrote-bombshell-letter-to-congress-before-fbi-had-reviewed-new-emails-220219586.html

Abedin, who served as Clinton’s deputy chief of staff and held a top-secret security clearance, disclosed she had access to four email accounts while working at the State Department.

These accounts, Abedin said, included an official State Department email account, but also an account on Clinton’s private email server that Abedin used to communicate with Clinton and her top aides, as well as a personal Yahoo account. She used both the Clinton email account and the Yahoo account to “routinely” forward State Department emails and documents so she could more easily print them, she said. In addition, she told the agents, she had a separate email account that she had previously used “to support her husband’s political activities.”

Abedin’s interview — conducted by agents at the FBI’s Washington field office last April 5 — was the first tip-off that the longtime Clinton aide might have circulated official State Department material among her multiple accounts.

[NWCorona]

57. Yes that's true but she also told the FBI that all devices used for work have been turned over

But these 4 devices still turned up in a separate investigation.

I just can't see these being duplicates as then they would fall under the original production orders so all these extra hoops they are going through shouldn't be needed. If anything they would just need to be extended.

I don't know. There is just so little to go off of so we can only speculate. It's so unfair to leave this to fester over the weekend. I've said from jump that Comey can't be trusted.

[pnwmom]

58. She had only used Weiner's device occasionally. She probably

didn't realize that her emails were still accessible on it.

The reason they are probably duplicates is because of the way IMAP works, saving (or deleting) all emails on a person's devices simultaneously, no matter which device is used to write a particular email. So even if she didn't think of Weiner's device as being one of hers, and may have easily forgotten that she'd ever used it to access her email, her emails would continue to be accessible on it unless she'd logged or or changed her settings.

[NWCorona]

59. I'm familiar with the sync retention issue. I also think it could be something as simple as a temp f

I just don't know at this point but I would think that they would still fall under the original production order. That's why I'm thinking we are dealing with a third party. Maybe an ESP that wasn't originally covered?

[pnwmom]

61. If she'd forgotten she'd ever used his device for her work,

or if she didn't realize his device would save her emails, then she might not have realized that his device fell under the original production order.

But the FBI should have, and they knew that she had used a shared account with Weiner because she told them -- last April. If the FBI didn't go after his device then, that was their failure, not hers.

[NWCorona]

63. I'm not saying she's being nefarious at all

And I agree the FBI dropped the ball but we need to find out more.

[Native]

45. K & R

[thesquanderer]

47. re: " In POP accounts the emails ONLY live on the device they were opened."

as discussed elsewhere, that's not necessarily true. That would only be true if the email program were set to delete the email from the server immediately after retrieval. That may be the default setting on some systems (I think it is the default on Outlook), but is not the default setting on others (iPhones or the Mac Mail program for example). And of course, regardless of what the default operation is, you can change it.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

50. Oh dear God, here we go again.

I have worked doing tech support for Apple devices. I assure you that iOS Devices AND the Mail app on MAC computers using POP email do NOT get an email across all devices. It goes to the ONE device that receives the email first at which time. If you open it in webmail first it will not go to your Mail app inbox OR your iOS device. If it goes to your iPhone it won't go to your Mail App and it will be deleted from web mail by default. If I had a dollar for every Apple user that called tech support because they couldn't find their email on their phone that they KNOW they saw on their computer I could retire. The only way to stop that is to go into the configuration settings at the mail provider website and adjust those settings. This is a hassle for the average email user. That is why virtually all of the most commonly used email providers now use IMAP as their default incoming mail server settings. All of the most recent operating systems set up email accounts automatically by the user entering their username and password. The IMAP settings are configured for the person automatically. The only exception is if the person is using a random hardly known email provider, a specific domain name email address (personal or business) or if they need to set up a VPN for work email. Back a few operating systems back on older computers you used to have to manually configure these server settings...BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO ANYMORE.

[thesquanderer]

64. Sorry, you are wrong, according to Apple (as well as my own experience).

you: "If it goes to your iPhone it won't go to your Mail App and it will be deleted from web mail by default"

apple:

Mail deletes messages from the server one week after deleting them from your device. This gives you time for other email apps— like OS X Mail—to download a copy of the messages. To change these settings: {instructions follow to make that period longer or shorter}

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201855

However, the default on the Mail program on a Mac may be different. Either way...

you: "The only way to stop that is to go into the configuration settings at the mail provider website and adjust those settings."

No, there are settings on the devices themselves, see the same link.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

67. You are correct.

I use various email services and clients across multiple Mac, Windows, and OS devices and the presumptive expert in this thread is just wrong.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

69. I never said you CAN'T set it up that way. I said it is NOT set up to do it automatically.

By default it is set up so if you open the email on one device it does NOT appear in your inbox on any other device. If you want to leave it on the server you have to go to the email provider account page and go into the account settings and change the configurations.

Have you set up a yahoo mail account on iOS 8, 9 or 10? A Mac running OS X Yosemite or newer? Windows 8 or newer?

Any of those Operating system when you set up Yahoo mail you don't even see the incoming mail server settings. You just sign in.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

70. Quote:

POP accounts will only send your new email to the first device that connects to the server. In POP accounts the emails ONLY live on the device they were opened.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

66. Wow, I guess I must have magical powers!

And here I just thought I'd adjusted the settings to make it work the way I wanted it to.

[Cha]

62. WTH.. did he not know this would become common

knowledge once he had his little October surprise!?

Mahalo, pnwmom

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

65. Sorry, but that info on POP email accounts is not correct.

The Post Office Protocol version 3 (POP3), on the other hand, is specifically designed for downloading email from your email provider’s server to your local machine. Your actions aren’t synchronized with the server like they are with IMAP; it’s just a “dumb” download. Most (but not all) POP setups wipe email from their servers by default once you download it to your local device, although you can often configure your email client to leave your messages on the server as well.

From PCWorld.

Most email services provide both POP and IMAP server access, and the account can be set up using one protocol on one or more devices and the other protocol on one or more different devices.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

68. Oh for the love of Christ...

For about the 10th time on multiple threads...yes you CAN configure it to leave it on the server and go to multiple devices...BUT in order to do that you have to MANUALLY go into the settings and configure it that way. MOST PEOPLE DON'T DO THAT BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And for about the 5th time...I would assume that Huma and Weiner boy were making enough money to buy modern laptops...with operating systems that typically only require you to enter your username and password and the the server settings are populated automatically without having to enter them at all.

AND once more...this is over a YAHOO.COM email address which by default on newer devices (like this one most likely is) automatically configures to IMAP.


IF Huma were email configuration tech savvy enough to do that then she would have also been able to figure out how to print off the damn emails without having to forward them to her personal account in the first place.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

71. Try not to have a heart attack just because you're wrong.

Your point seems to be that a lot of people "DON'T KNOW HOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

So what? Some people do know how. One does not have to be particularly "tech savvy" to change a few email settings. Nor does being able to set up email accounts manually mean it might not just easier to forward an email to print in a familiar setting.

The problem with your argument is that is simply is no proof of anything. You think because you know how some people behave, you can assume how a particular person did.

And, by the way, YELL ALL YOU WANT!!!!! I and OTHERS HAVE PROVEN YOU WRONG AND I'M DONE WITH YOU!!!!!!!!

Lovely way to communicate, isn't it?