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Breaking: (LV) National ABC/WP Poll: Clinton leads 47-43 (Original Post) NewsCenter28 Oct 2016 OP
I can't believe triron Oct 2016 #1
AVERAGE Loki Liesmith Oct 2016 #4
They are ALL that close. What have you been watching? BlueStreak Oct 2016 #5
Romney was "close too" Foggyhill Oct 2016 #17
Post removed Post removed Oct 2016 #2
oh, it's you. Loki Liesmith Oct 2016 #3
That's how polarized we are now. RandySF Oct 2016 #6
It's ok ... Polls were supposed to rebound to 5 point MyNameIsKhan Oct 2016 #7
Good god, listen to yourself!! Foggyhill Oct 2016 #15
Ok vadermike Oct 2016 #8
^^^^^^^TRUMPIAN^^^^^^^ alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #9
Guys stop freaking this is a national poll MyNameIsKhan Oct 2016 #10
There are 9 replies. Who is "freaking" alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #11
If he only has a 13-point lead with whites, his actual deficit is more like 8%. Zynx Oct 2016 #13
Only 740 in the triron Oct 2016 #14
Margin of error is only meaningful if the poll is representative Foggyhill Oct 2016 #19
This is an improvement from the last poll. vdogg Oct 2016 #16
Thanks for the link and clarification. Third Doctor Oct 2016 #18
The margin of error is so largecyou can deduce trends but nothing else Foggyhill Oct 2016 #20
I agree Third Doctor Oct 2016 #21
Well her lead is double what it was in their last poll which only showed a 2 point lead for Clinton. qdouble Oct 2016 #22
It's an upward trend - their last poll had her leading Adolph Sniffler Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2016 #23
Hoping for more than 50% 8 november Ardoewaan Oct 2016 #24
Polls are a Snapshot in time that's why I pay no attention to them bigdarryl Oct 2016 #25
The weekly poll roller coaster ride is nothing more than an amusement. Trust Buster Oct 2016 #26
I think this is an outlier. Probably underpolling Dems/Progressives. Others have her further ahead. RBInMaine Oct 2016 #27
Yeah and NBC/WSJ has her up by 11 book_worm Oct 2016 #28
 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
5. They are ALL that close. What have you been watching?
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 12:35 AM
Oct 2016

When 538 says 80% that means there is a 1 in 5 chance that Trump will win. E.G. something like a 4 point lead with a MoE of 5%.

80% isn't anything like a "sure thing". We really need the odds to be over 90% to start to have some real confidence.

Foggyhill

(1,060 posts)
17. Romney was "close too"
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 01:36 AM
Oct 2016

Those cheap national polls should be banned

Do you really think people suddenly reversed their opinion of trump in the last 2 days

Response to NewsCenter28 (Original post)

RandySF

(58,486 posts)
6. That's how polarized we are now.
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 12:37 AM
Oct 2016

Oklahoma elected to the Senate a man who was a ob/gyn whoe sterilized women without their consent.

Foggyhill

(1,060 posts)
15. Good god, listen to yourself!!
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 01:34 AM
Oct 2016

None of those polls are rebound, can't believe what I hear
Essentislly nationsl poll are like white noise whennyou consider methodology and their margin of error

The only poll that matter are large scale state polls

vadermike

(1,415 posts)
8. Ok
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 12:44 AM
Oct 2016

I hope to hell this isn't the beginning of a trump so called comeback narrative. Ugh. But we are leading in all the swing states. The only thing that worries me some is that people become normalized to trump s. Behavior. Hope not

MyNameIsKhan

(2,205 posts)
10. Guys stop freaking this is a national poll
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 12:47 AM
Oct 2016

10 point leads means 400 plus electoral votes, I just donot see this happening with country polarized

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
13. If he only has a 13-point lead with whites, his actual deficit is more like 8%.
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 01:01 AM
Oct 2016

They must be assuming a whiter than normal electorate.

Foggyhill

(1,060 posts)
19. Margin of error is only meaningful if the poll is representative
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 01:54 AM
Oct 2016

Most polls don't even get that right
Not to mention the huge moe

National polls should be at least 2048
And be careful to match demos of likely voters in a 2016 election, not 2004

These are horserace/ talking point polls they don't give a shit if they are true

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
16. This is an improvement from the last poll.
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 01:34 AM
Oct 2016
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/enthusiasm-donald-trump-fades-partisanship-close-poll/story?id=42815332

Enthusiasm for Donald Trump’s candidacy has fallen, two-thirds of registered voters reject his claim not to have made unwanted sexual advances toward women and Hillary Clinton’s support has firmed in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll.


But a tightening in Trump’s favor has halted, the poll finds, and other results suggest a shift in the dynamics of the race:

• Enthusiasm for Trump among his supporters has subsided from 91 percent last month to 79 percent now, erasing his advantage over Clinton on this measure.

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
18. Thanks for the link and clarification.
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 01:49 AM
Oct 2016

This particular poll was even closer last time and the recent one indicates a problem for Trump not Clinton.

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
21. I agree
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 02:00 AM
Oct 2016

Mainly if Clinton is up in so many polls the country or state is leaning towards her or vice versa.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
23. It's an upward trend - their last poll had her leading Adolph Sniffler
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 03:05 AM
Oct 2016

by two points.

But I'm sure the hacks in the media will try to portray it as a tightening, as Drudge is.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
25. Polls are a Snapshot in time that's why I pay no attention to them
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 07:37 AM
Oct 2016

I look at the actual esrly voting that is going on and whos turning there voters out.

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