2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"I'm here for Hillary, not for Bill" Millennials aren't that interested
AP Politics
✔ ?@AP_Politics
Bill Clinton's past? Millennials aren't that interested. http://apne.ws/2e1LoMQ
7:51 AM - 12 Oct 2016
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https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/786262994632212481/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
h/t https://theobamadiary.com/2016/10/12/president-obama-speaks-at-hispanic-heritage-month-reception/#comments
The argument doesn't seem to resonate with America's youngest voters, who know the 70-year-old former president as a figure out of history books and don't seem to care about his Oval Office affair with Monica Lewinsky or other marital infidelities. Many of them describe the white-topped, bespectacled grandfather more as Hillary's famous husband than a central figure to consider as they weigh their 2016 ballot.
https://apnews.com/130119c72cf041bc9912b908176ae08b
And, why wouldn't they be there for Hillary?!
Lee in Iowa ?@Lee_in_Iowa
Hearing voting for Hillary is so heavy in Ohio that some precincts have been running out of ballots! Such good news! (Yes, they'll vote.) https://twitter.com/omerizer/status/786182544123396096
11:25 AM - 12 Oct 2016
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ETA~ You don't have to be a millennial to be there for Hillary Not Bill..
Bradley E. Williams ?@B_RadWill
"We need Hillary's leadership & we have to protect Obama's legacy. That is why I've been out here since 3 a.m." -Angela #OHVotesEarly
3:05 AM - 12 Oct 2016
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h/thttps://theobamadiary.com/2016/10/12/chat-away-879/
Trudge on trump.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)He has surrounded himself with professional Clinton-haters. These people all have their heads up their asses, blinded by hate.
Here's the simple truth:
If you are old enough to have been an adult in the 90s, then you already got damn sick of Kenneth Starr. And you also remember that all 4 of these ladies were out then and Starr could never make any chargers stick. Nobody wants to go back down that path because Bill ain't running.
And if you are not old enough to remember that, it is completely irrelevant. Again, if Bill were running for something, then maybe it would be an issue, but he isn't.
Trump thinks he's being clever by trying to turn this into "Aha, what makes it relevant is that Hillary stood by her man." That's ridiculous. That's admirable of Hillary. This whole thing is stupid beyond belief.
Cha
(297,154 posts)So right.. it's very good news that the Millennials don't care.. It's damn sure people our age don't.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)Cha
(297,154 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,922 posts)Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)I was in high school when the Lewinsky scandal broke. Didn't care about it then, care even less about it now. At least what happened between Bill and Monica was consensual; Trump is on tape bragging about assaulting women.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)My stepdad was super into it, even though he had cheated on his first wife a bunch, called bill immoral. I think that's why I just did not care about the Lewinskigate scandal. Bunch of hypocrites were all hyped up.
Cha
(297,154 posts)Thank you, Terra Alta.. not the same @ all.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)My and the other older adults are caring about TrumpRape tho
Cha
(297,154 posts)✔ ?@JoshuaGreen
SCOOP: Trump campaign going nuclear. Will soon roll out new accusers. "We're going to turn him into Bill Cosby," vows Bannon. @bw story soon
1:17 PM - 12 Oct 2016
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When it's trump who's turning out to have that mind set.
h/t https://theobamadiary.com/2016/10/12/president-obama-speaks-at-hispanic-heritage-month-reception/#comments
bravenak
(34,648 posts)It backfired big time, lol
Cha
(297,154 posts)(CNN) Did Donald Trump actually believe that raising baseless accusations about the health of Hillary Clinton, who is two years his junior, will somehow cause people to stop supporting her and side with him or a third party candidate?
Even Trump's new campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, seemed to disavow this new health smear, telling CNN's Anderson Cooper on Tuesday night that the approach by campaign surrogates was a "strategy" that was not her "style"
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/25/opinions/trump-clinton-health-obeidallah/
rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)So the republicans have been so proud to impeach a president for lying about a blow job.
A republican congress did that.
So now Hillary is somehow responsible for that blow job?
David Vitter, when you visited D.C. Madam prostitutes, it was your wife's fault.
He got a standing ovation, from republicans, when he returned to the Senate.
Cha
(297,154 posts)has to offer, rusty. Alleged scandal on Hillary's husband from the '90s.
That's all he's got in his total world wide meltdown.
Democat
(11,617 posts)Sexist pig.
Cha
(297,154 posts)Thank you!
Cha
(297,154 posts)https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/10/12/trumps-last-ditch-strategy-drag-clinton-down-into-the-pig-slop-with-him/?utm_term=.7ab31b908343
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)they don't CARE what Bill did in the past, other than the fact that he hurt his wife with his infidelities. Thing is, I voted for him twice KNOWING he was what we call at home a "man-whore", because you know what? HE did his JOB. He was a good President, lax zipper control notwithstanding.
The one fact that my grown kids keep coming back to? At least with Bill, it was CONSENSUAL.
So, the Rethug insistence that this will somehow tarnish HRC is utter shit. She handled a humiliating experience very publicly and with grace. Which also goes to prove the POINT of her strength of character and indomitable will.
Cha
(297,154 posts)and dignity DemonGoddess. A trait that is hers.
Good to hear about your adult kids!
And, you don't have to be a millennium to be there for Hillary.. not Bill.
Bradley E. Williams ?@B_RadWill
"We need Hillary's leadership & we have to protect Obama's legacy. That is why I've been out here since 3 a.m." -Angela #OHVotesEarly
3:05 AM - 12 Oct 2016
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h/thttps://theobamadiary.com/2016/10/12/chat-away-879/
LeftRant
(524 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Hekate
(90,645 posts)Cha
(297,154 posts)campaigning for Hillary in Greensboro, North Carolina.
No wonder trump is whining..
Trump tweet: .@realDonaldTrump: "Why the hell is Obama allowed to campaign for Hillary Clinton?"
lol.. Obama's tearing him a new one on him not paying taxes and just popping off!
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)The question is why will nobody campaign for Trump.
Cha
(297,154 posts)campaigning for him.
DeminPennswoods
(15,278 posts)that bringing up these women from the past fell absolutely flat.
Cha
(297,154 posts)Thanks, Cha.
Cha
(297,154 posts)With all the news of trump planning to "turn Bill Clinton into Bill Cosby.." this is good news to shove back @ the psycho predator fans.
mcar
(42,302 posts)Did you see that Liberty University students released a statement criticizing the school president, Falwell Jr, for his support of Trump?
Cha
(297,154 posts)That's grand! Some sanity in their world. Shame on falwell for still supporting trump the sexual pervert. Who's lying his head off about it now that he's busted.
Mahalo, mcar!
mcar
(42,302 posts)But when Trumpy is a perv, it's all good.
Cha
(297,154 posts)The last few months have seen the name of Liberty University, and the name of its founder, Jerry Falwell, Sr. drug through the mud, scorned and ridiculed, all because the school president, Jerry Falwell Jr. has become an immovable, deluded shill for an unrepentant profaner, abuser, and adulterer by the name of Donald J. Trump.
This is where I remind people that, unlike his father, Jerry Falwell Jr. is not a pastor. He is a lawyer. And a mercenary.
Just the kind of guy who would see the benefit in rolling in the stench of Trump.
While Falwell Jr. has pushed Trump relentlessly, it has not been so for the student body.
Now, the students of Liberty have formed Liberty United Against Trump, and have released a powerful statement of where they stand on this albatross that their school president has attempted to stain them with.
http://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2016/10/12/liberty-university-students-push-back-trump-surrogate-jerry-falwell-jr/
Thank you!
mcar
(42,302 posts)In case people don't want to go to redstate.
Cha
(297,154 posts)Retired George
(332 posts)The few I do know couldn't give a shit about what happened in the 90s.
Cha
(297,154 posts)the future not the past. And, they're smart enough to know that trump isn't good for anyone's future.
gademocrat7
(10,654 posts)Hillary is running for office not her husband.
Cha
(297,154 posts)thinks like he does.
Ligyron
(7,627 posts)It's been revealed that the strategy in bringing up Bill Clinton's alleged past indiscretions is to discourage his wife's supporters so much that they won't want to vote - period.
Genius move Bannon! Please proceed...
This, and Trump attacking the women coming forward to confirm the stories of groping, kissing and basically everything he bragged about to Billy Bush and Howard Stern concerning his sexual assaults will only bring out more and more women to vote against him and for Hillary.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Since American History taught in our schools ("their" schools) apparently ends with Ronald Reagan?
gemlake
(581 posts)Plus there's no tape of Bill Clinton bragging about sexual assault.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Cha
(297,154 posts)herding cats
(19,564 posts)Longtime GOP operative Rick Wilson had another veteran Republican hand ― Frank Luntz ― conduct the group. As Wilson recalls, women took the attacks against Bill as totally out of bounds. It wasnt just Democrats, but Republicans too.
It was a totally ineffective attack in moving voters to Rudy, even if they werent pissed off and offended, Wilson emailed. It made [Clinton] more likable and we even had people saying things like, Well, she deserves to be a Senator after how badly Bill treated her.
The responses could hardly have been mind-blowing. During Bill Clintons impeachment hearings, Hillary Clintons favorability ratings had skyrocketed. She was the most admired woman in Gallups 1998 poll, with a number that had doubled from the previous year and dwarfed second-place finisher Oprah (28 percent to 8 percent).
Still, the Luntz focus group was a bright red flag that the Clinton marriage, and all its complications, was not to be broached in the electoral arena. While Giuliani ultimately passed on making a run, Lazio largely followed that advice.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-clinton-affairs_us_57f01536e4b082aad9bba823
Which was why they avoided it when she was running for Senate. It makes her even more liked, and people feel empathy for her when they go there.
Trump is running the worst campaign in history, which seems fitting since he appears to be the worst candidate in history.
Cha
(297,154 posts)He tried to bring Bill's accusers into his private box and the debate commission said NO.. now he's mad at them. But he's threatening to sue the NYT because they're giving his accusers a platform. Hot damn.. I love it that he's finally on the defensive every time he turns around.
He's like a big stupid, bozo, psycho predator.. no decent human being would even want to be around anymore.
Mahalo~