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Cha

(297,154 posts)
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:10 AM Oct 2016

"I'm here for Hillary, not for Bill" Millennials aren't that interested


AP Politics
✔ ?@AP_Politics
Bill Clinton's past? Millennials aren't that interested. http://apne.ws/2e1LoMQ
7:51 AM - 12 Oct 2016
371 371 Retweets 671 671 likes

https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/786262994632212481/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

h/t https://theobamadiary.com/2016/10/12/president-obama-speaks-at-hispanic-heritage-month-reception/#comments

ATHENS, Ohio (AP) — Ignoring his own sexually aggressive predilections, Donald Trump wants voters to see Bill Clinton as a scandal-plagued cad whose history with women should disqualify Hillary Clinton from the presidency.

The argument doesn't seem to resonate with America's youngest voters, who know the 70-year-old former president as a figure out of history books and don't seem to care about his Oval Office affair with Monica Lewinsky or other marital infidelities. Many of them describe the white-topped, bespectacled grandfather more as Hillary's famous husband than a central figure to consider as they weigh their 2016 ballot.

https://apnews.com/130119c72cf041bc9912b908176ae08b

And, why wouldn't they be there for Hillary?!

Lee in Iowa ?@Lee_in_Iowa
Hearing voting for Hillary is so heavy in Ohio that some precincts have been running out of ballots! Such good news! (Yes, they'll vote.) https://twitter.com/omerizer/status/786182544123396096
11:25 AM - 12 Oct 2016
125 125 Retweets 164 164 likes

ETA~ You don't have to be a millennial to be there for Hillary Not Bill..


Bradley E. Williams ?@B_RadWill
"We need Hillary's leadership & we have to protect Obama's legacy. That is why I've been out here since 3 a.m." -Angela #OHVotesEarly
3:05 AM - 12 Oct 2016
204 204 Retweets 284 284 likes

h/thttps://theobamadiary.com/2016/10/12/chat-away-879/

Trudge on trump.
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"I'm here for Hillary, not for Bill" Millennials aren't that interested (Original Post) Cha Oct 2016 OP
Trump is an idiot. Going after Bill is a stupid strategy. BlueStreak Oct 2016 #1
Good analysis, BlueStreak.. Thank you! Cha Oct 2016 #3
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2016 #8
Gracias, PPN! Cha Oct 2016 #21
But it's the excuse most trumpanzees use Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2016 #41
I was born in 1981 and among the oldest millennials Terra Alta Oct 2016 #2
Me too, same age bravenak Oct 2016 #4
"Consenual" is the key word.. Cha Oct 2016 #6
None of the kids at my school seems to care bravenak Oct 2016 #5
This is good news, brave.. trump camp wants to turn Bill into.. Cha Oct 2016 #7
Trump is totally stupid for this bravenak Oct 2016 #9
It's so trump. Cha Oct 2016 #11
The only thing that Ken Starr could make stick was a blue dress, and he ran with it. rusty quoin Oct 2016 #10
That's all the pathetic sexual predator trump Cha Oct 2016 #37
Trump won't speak to a woman, he speaks to the man of the house Democat Oct 2016 #12
Oh that he is, Democrat. Apologies to pigs. Cha Oct 2016 #38
Trum''s last-ditch strategy: Drag Clinton down into the pig slop with him Cha Oct 2016 #13
My adult children also agree DemonGoddess Oct 2016 #14
Yes, Hillary handled the public humiliation with strength Cha Oct 2016 #15
This whole argument about Bill is the clear indication that Trump has NOTHING ELSE. Busted on ideas. LeftRant Oct 2016 #16
Yep. Scurrilous Oct 2016 #44
This is really encouraging. Thanks, Cha! Hekate Oct 2016 #17
It is so encouraging, Hekate! Just watching President Obama Cha Oct 2016 #18
WTF? Trump complains that people are campaigning for Hillary? BlueStreak Oct 2016 #32
Yeah, he wonders where the former gop President is Cha Oct 2016 #43
Josh Marshall made the same point DeminPennswoods Oct 2016 #19
Thanks for the news, DeminPneeswoods! Cha Oct 2016 #20
Yes! brer cat Oct 2016 #22
Thank you, brer cat! Cha Oct 2016 #24
Glad to hear this mcar Oct 2016 #23
No, I didn't see that.. Cha Oct 2016 #27
And these religious leaders all condemned B Clinton back when mcar Oct 2016 #31
Except these students.. I just found this... it is strong! Cha Oct 2016 #34
Here's the WaPo link mcar Oct 2016 #35
Thank you.. didn't think about that.. Cha Oct 2016 #36
I don't know many millenials (I'm 66) Retired George Oct 2016 #25
Thanks George! Millennials are looking to Cha Oct 2016 #30
Millennials get it. gademocrat7 Oct 2016 #26
trump is so dumb.. he thinks everyone else Cha Oct 2016 #46
Get this: Ligyron Oct 2016 #28
Trump surrogates are saying Millenials never heard of this stuff about Clinton. yallerdawg Oct 2016 #29
Bill isn't on the ticket gemlake Oct 2016 #33
K & R Scurrilous Oct 2016 #39
Mahalo, Scurrilous! Cha Oct 2016 #40
... Scurrilous Oct 2016 #42
Using Bill against Hillary has always been a bad strategy, and the Republicans knew it was. herding cats Oct 2016 #45
Thank you for that, herding cats! Cha Oct 2016 #47
 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
1. Trump is an idiot. Going after Bill is a stupid strategy.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:16 AM
Oct 2016

He has surrounded himself with professional Clinton-haters. These people all have their heads up their asses, blinded by hate.

Here's the simple truth:

If you are old enough to have been an adult in the 90s, then you already got damn sick of Kenneth Starr. And you also remember that all 4 of these ladies were out then and Starr could never make any chargers stick. Nobody wants to go back down that path because Bill ain't running.

And if you are not old enough to remember that, it is completely irrelevant. Again, if Bill were running for something, then maybe it would be an issue, but he isn't.

Trump thinks he's being clever by trying to turn this into "Aha, what makes it relevant is that Hillary stood by her man." That's ridiculous. That's admirable of Hillary. This whole thing is stupid beyond belief.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
3. Good analysis, BlueStreak.. Thank you!
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:20 AM
Oct 2016

So right.. it's very good news that the Millennials don't care.. It's damn sure people our age don't.

Terra Alta

(5,158 posts)
2. I was born in 1981 and among the oldest millennials
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:17 AM
Oct 2016

I was in high school when the Lewinsky scandal broke. Didn't care about it then, care even less about it now. At least what happened between Bill and Monica was consensual; Trump is on tape bragging about assaulting women.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
4. Me too, same age
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:21 AM
Oct 2016

My stepdad was super into it, even though he had cheated on his first wife a bunch, called bill immoral. I think that's why I just did not care about the Lewinskigate scandal. Bunch of hypocrites were all hyped up.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
5. None of the kids at my school seems to care
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:22 AM
Oct 2016

My and the other older adults are caring about TrumpRape tho

Cha

(297,154 posts)
7. This is good news, brave.. trump camp wants to turn Bill into..
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:31 AM
Oct 2016
Joshua Green
✔ ?@JoshuaGreen
SCOOP: Trump campaign going nuclear. Will soon roll out new accusers. "We're going to turn him into Bill Cosby," vows Bannon. @bw story soon
1:17 PM - 12 Oct 2016
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When it's trump who's turning out to have that mind set.

h/t https://theobamadiary.com/2016/10/12/president-obama-speaks-at-hispanic-heritage-month-reception/#comments

Cha

(297,154 posts)
11. It's so trump.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 02:08 AM
Oct 2016
How Trump's health smear of Clinton backfired

(CNN) — Did Donald Trump actually believe that raising baseless accusations about the health of Hillary Clinton, who is two years his junior, will somehow cause people to stop supporting her and side with him or a third party candidate?

Even Trump's new campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, seemed to disavow this new health smear, telling CNN's Anderson Cooper on Tuesday night that the approach by campaign surrogates was a "strategy" that was not her "style"

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/25/opinions/trump-clinton-health-obeidallah/

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
10. The only thing that Ken Starr could make stick was a blue dress, and he ran with it.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:35 AM
Oct 2016

So the republicans have been so proud to impeach a president for lying about a blow job.

A republican congress did that.

So now Hillary is somehow responsible for that blow job?

David Vitter, when you visited D.C. Madam prostitutes, it was your wife's fault.

He got a standing ovation, from republicans, when he returned to the Senate.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
37. That's all the pathetic sexual predator trump
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 10:31 AM
Oct 2016

has to offer, rusty. Alleged scandal on Hillary's husband from the '90s.

That's all he's got in his total world wide meltdown.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
13. Trum''s last-ditch strategy: Drag Clinton down into the pig slop with him
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 03:08 AM
Oct 2016
In other words, Trump and his advisers have concluded that the sex tape probably closes off the option of winning back voters “outside the core of his support,” as the Journal puts it, which means, of course, suburban swing voters and college-educated whites, particularly women. Now his only remaining hope is to slime up Clinton as much as possible and hope for a magically super-sized turnout among angry white working class men driven into a frenzy by Trump’s theatrics.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/10/12/trumps-last-ditch-strategy-drag-clinton-down-into-the-pig-slop-with-him/?utm_term=.7ab31b908343

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
14. My adult children also agree
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 03:27 AM
Oct 2016

they don't CARE what Bill did in the past, other than the fact that he hurt his wife with his infidelities. Thing is, I voted for him twice KNOWING he was what we call at home a "man-whore", because you know what? HE did his JOB. He was a good President, lax zipper control notwithstanding.

The one fact that my grown kids keep coming back to? At least with Bill, it was CONSENSUAL.

So, the Rethug insistence that this will somehow tarnish HRC is utter shit. She handled a humiliating experience very publicly and with grace. Which also goes to prove the POINT of her strength of character and indomitable will.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
15. Yes, Hillary handled the public humiliation with strength
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 03:48 AM
Oct 2016

and dignity DemonGoddess. A trait that is hers.

Good to hear about your adult kids!

And, you don't have to be a millennium to be there for Hillary.. not Bill.


Bradley E. Williams ?@B_RadWill
"We need Hillary's leadership & we have to protect Obama's legacy. That is why I've been out here since 3 a.m." -Angela #OHVotesEarly
3:05 AM - 12 Oct 2016
204 204 Retweets 284 284 likes

h/thttps://theobamadiary.com/2016/10/12/chat-away-879/


LeftRant

(524 posts)
16. This whole argument about Bill is the clear indication that Trump has NOTHING ELSE. Busted on ideas.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:12 AM
Oct 2016

Cha

(297,154 posts)
18. It is so encouraging, Hekate! Just watching President Obama
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 06:12 AM
Oct 2016

campaigning for Hillary in Greensboro, North Carolina.

No wonder trump is whining..

Trump tweet: .@realDonaldTrump: "Why the hell is Obama allowed to campaign for Hillary Clinton?"

lol.. Obama's tearing him a new one on him not paying taxes and just popping off!









 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
32. WTF? Trump complains that people are campaigning for Hillary?
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 09:50 AM
Oct 2016

The question is why will nobody campaign for Trump.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
24. Thank you, brer cat!
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 08:46 AM
Oct 2016

With all the news of trump planning to "turn Bill Clinton into Bill Cosby.." this is good news to shove back @ the psycho predator fans.

mcar

(42,302 posts)
23. Glad to hear this
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 08:34 AM
Oct 2016

Did you see that Liberty University students released a statement criticizing the school president, Falwell Jr, for his support of Trump?

Cha

(297,154 posts)
27. No, I didn't see that..
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 09:01 AM
Oct 2016

That's grand! Some sanity in their world. Shame on falwell for still supporting trump the sexual pervert. Who's lying his head off about it now that he's busted.

Mahalo, mcar!

mcar

(42,302 posts)
31. And these religious leaders all condemned B Clinton back when
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 09:36 AM
Oct 2016

But when Trumpy is a perv, it's all good.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
34. Except these students.. I just found this... it is strong!
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 10:02 AM
Oct 2016
Liberty University Students Push Back Against Trump Surrogate, Jerry Falwell Jr

The last few months have seen the name of Liberty University, and the name of its founder, Jerry Falwell, Sr. drug through the mud, scorned and ridiculed, all because the school president, Jerry Falwell Jr. has become an immovable, deluded shill for an unrepentant profaner, abuser, and adulterer by the name of Donald J. Trump.

This is where I remind people that, unlike his father, Jerry Falwell Jr. is not a pastor. He is a lawyer. And a mercenary.

Just the kind of guy who would see the benefit in rolling in the stench of Trump.

While Falwell Jr. has pushed Trump relentlessly, it has not been so for the student body.

Now, the students of Liberty have formed Liberty United Against Trump, and have released a powerful statement of where they stand on this albatross that their school president has attempted to stain them with.



http://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2016/10/12/liberty-university-students-push-back-trump-surrogate-jerry-falwell-jr/

Thank you!
 

Retired George

(332 posts)
25. I don't know many millenials (I'm 66)
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 08:52 AM
Oct 2016

The few I do know couldn't give a shit about what happened in the 90s.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
30. Thanks George! Millennials are looking to
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 09:24 AM
Oct 2016

the future not the past. And, they're smart enough to know that trump isn't good for anyone's future.

Ligyron

(7,627 posts)
28. Get this:
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 09:23 AM
Oct 2016

It's been revealed that the strategy in bringing up Bill Clinton's alleged past indiscretions is to discourage his wife's supporters so much that they won't want to vote - period.

Genius move Bannon! Please proceed...

This, and Trump attacking the women coming forward to confirm the stories of groping, kissing and basically everything he bragged about to Billy Bush and Howard Stern concerning his sexual assaults will only bring out more and more women to vote against him and for Hillary.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
29. Trump surrogates are saying Millenials never heard of this stuff about Clinton.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 09:23 AM
Oct 2016

Since American History taught in our schools ("their" schools) apparently ends with Ronald Reagan?

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
45. Using Bill against Hillary has always been a bad strategy, and the Republicans knew it was.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 12:57 PM
Oct 2016
Months before Russert raised the question during that debate, Republicans hoping to block the former first lady from capturing a New York Senate seat had reached a similar conclusion as Fallon. Then-New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani had flirted with making a Senate run of his own. And his aides convened a voter focus group to test out prospective issues and lines of attack.

Longtime GOP operative Rick Wilson had another veteran Republican hand ― Frank Luntz ― conduct the group. As Wilson recalls, women took the attacks against Bill as “totally out of bounds.” It wasn’t just Democrats, but Republicans too.

“It was a totally ineffective attack in moving voters to Rudy, even if they weren’t pissed off and offended,” Wilson emailed. “It made [Clinton] more likable and we even had people saying things like, ‘Well, she deserves to be a Senator after how badly Bill treated her.’”

The responses could hardly have been mind-blowing. During Bill Clinton’s impeachment hearings, Hillary Clinton’s favorability ratings had skyrocketed. She was the most admired woman in Gallup’s 1998 poll, with a number that had doubled from the previous year and dwarfed second-place finisher Oprah (28 percent to 8 percent).

Still, the Luntz focus group was a bright red flag that the Clinton marriage, and all its complications, was not to be broached in the electoral arena. While Giuliani ultimately passed on making a run, Lazio largely followed that advice.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-clinton-affairs_us_57f01536e4b082aad9bba823

Which was why they avoided it when she was running for Senate. It makes her even more liked, and people feel empathy for her when they go there.

Trump is running the worst campaign in history, which seems fitting since he appears to be the worst candidate in history.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
47. Thank you for that, herding cats!
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:29 PM
Oct 2016
Donald Trump Goes After The Clintons’ Marital History At His Own Peril

He tried to bring Bill's accusers into his private box and the debate commission said NO.. now he's mad at them. But he's threatening to sue the NYT because they're giving his accusers a platform. Hot damn.. I love it that he's finally on the defensive every time he turns around.

He's like a big stupid, bozo, psycho predator.. no decent human being would even want to be around anymore.

Mahalo~
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