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factfinder_77

(841 posts)
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 06:12 AM Oct 2016

Trump suffering from severe Antisocial Personality Disorder with sociopathic tendencies

Im not supposed to keep up appearances of a sofa psychiatrist, but we have all gotten to know Trumps race to the bottom.
His actions and statements are not one of a healthy person.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/conditions/antisocial-personality-disorder

Antisocial personality disorder is best understood within the context of the broader category of personality disorders.
A personality disorder is an enduring pattern of personal experience and behavior that deviates noticeably from the expectations of the individual's culture, is pervasive and inflexible, has an onset in adolescence or early adulthood, is stable over time, and leads to personal distress or impairment

Antisocial personality disorder is characterized by a pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others.

The severity of symptoms of antisocial personality disorder can vary in severity. The more egregious, harmful, or dangerous behavior patterns are referred to as sociopathic or psychopathic. There has been much debate as to the distinction between these descriptions. Sociopathy is chiefly characterized as a something severely wrong with one's conscience; psychopathy is characterized as a complete lack of conscience regarding others. Some professionals describe people with this constellation of symptoms as "stone cold" to the rights of others. Complications of this disorder include imprisonment, drug abuse, and alcoholism.

People with this illness may seem charming, but they are likely to be irritable and aggressive as well as irresponsible. They may have numerous somatic complaints and perhaps attempt suicide. Due to their manipulative tendencies, it is difficult to separate what they say about themselves that is true from what is not.



https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wicked-deeds/201604/how-know-if-you-are-dealing-sociopath

Forensic psychologists have discovered that certain key traits of violent behavior are very consistent with an antisocial personality disorder known as sociopathy.
This disorder is manifested in certain distinct and troublesome behavioral traits and characteristics.
Sociopathy is not classified as mental illnesses by the American Psychiatric Association (APA). The fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), released by the APA in 2013, lists sociopathy under the heading of AntisocialPersonality Disorders (ASPD).

The APA estimates that there are approximately eight million sociopaths in the U.S. Therefore, many of us know one, and may be related to one or intimately involved with one.

Sociopathy is characterized by the following personality and behavioral traits:
• A disregard for laws and social mores
• A disregard for the rights of others
• A failure to feel remorse or guilt
• A tendency to display violent behavior and emotional outbursts

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Trump suffering from severe Antisocial Personality Disorder with sociopathic tendencies (Original Post) factfinder_77 Oct 2016 OP
It fits, but I'll go with my original diagnosis: 116. Rotten SOB. Buns_of_Fire Oct 2016 #1
LOL. If only the DSM could be so succinct. nt Ilsa Oct 2016 #2
On the other hand, consider the signs of narcissistic personality disorder... Princess Turandot Oct 2016 #3
Definitely -- but he could have overlapping disorders. nt pnwmom Oct 2016 #4
Unwilling to take political advice exclude predominant narcissistic diagnosis. factfinder_77 Oct 2016 #6
Sorta disagree on that, Factfinder. Certainly, both diagnoses Hortensis Oct 2016 #8
Strong argment here. But individuals with ADD and ADHD have a strong tendency towards narcissism. factfinder_77 Oct 2016 #15
He's become absolutely famous for his short attention span. Hortensis Oct 2016 #16
Interesting! I had been wondering about that lately ... eppur_se_muova Oct 2016 #21
He has both disorders, I have long thought. Chemisse Oct 2016 #9
And, in addition, a classic gilt complex. Mister Ed Oct 2016 #19
I agree. yardwork Oct 2016 #20
better diagnosis. n/t Brainstormy Oct 2016 #11
Opposite of President Obama Jon King Oct 2016 #5
Trump has taped into the "left behind"", feeling alone" and "extreme right" voters factfinder_77 Oct 2016 #7
Trump and President Carter are pretty opposite. spooky3 Oct 2016 #12
Litmus test ailsagirl Oct 2016 #13
While it may be fun to try and diagnose Trump as suffering from some sort of pathology... Major Nikon Oct 2016 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author yellowcanine Oct 2016 #18
Plus not a genius! Madam45for2923 Oct 2016 #14
BS. Trump is suffering from being Trump. Making it a disease lets him off the hook. yellowcanine Oct 2016 #17

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
3. On the other hand, consider the signs of narcissistic personality disorder...
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 07:02 AM
Oct 2016
According to the DSM-5, individuals with NPD have most or all of the following symptoms, typically without commensurate qualities or accomplishments:

Grandiosity with expectations of superior treatment from others
Fixated on fantasies of power, success, intelligence, attractiveness, etc.
Self-perception of being unique, superior and associated with high-status people and institutions
Needing constant admiration from others
Sense of entitlement to special treatment and to obedience from others
Exploitative of others to achieve personal gain
Unwilling to empathize with others' feelings, wishes, or needs
Intensely envious of others and the belief that others are equally envious of them
Pompous and arrogant demeanor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder#Signs_and_symptoms


He seems to hit every one.
 

factfinder_77

(841 posts)
6. Unwilling to take political advice exclude predominant narcissistic diagnosis.
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 07:19 AM
Oct 2016

Trump knows he is unexperienced in the political arena, and it has actually been one of his stump speech highlights on the campaign tail.

So logically, Trumps winning instinct would kick in, and would tell a sane person that one has to take advice from more experienced opratives, pundits and political know how.

But Trump refuses to do that. And even his own lawyers had to meet him in pairs, because he lies so much.

We tried to [meet in pairs] with Donald always if we could because Donald says certain things and then has a lack of memory,” he also says in the deposition.


http://usuncut.com/politics/revealed-trumps-lawyers-meet-pairs-lies-much/

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. Sorta disagree on that, Factfinder. Certainly, both diagnoses
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 07:35 AM
Oct 2016

are based on combinations of cluster B personality traits, and which of these--or other diagnoses--would be made would depend on which traits were observed to be dominant.

Narcissism leads to abusive behaviors toward others and I suspect would completely explain Trump's.

I've crossed paths a couple of people over my life who I feel pretty sure could be explained by antisocial personality disorder, and they were far more vicious and malignant. Trump constantly demonstrates a rather pathetic need to be liked and admired. These others emphatically did not. They enjoyed both manipulating and hurting their chosen victims and the resulting hate and fear.

 

factfinder_77

(841 posts)
15. Strong argment here. But individuals with ADD and ADHD have a strong tendency towards narcissism.
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 08:42 AM
Oct 2016

Trumps short/lacking attention span indicates some form of ADD/ADHD





Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. He's become absolutely famous for his short attention span.
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 08:56 AM
Oct 2016

Comics just copy and paste his own erratic statements into their skits.

Notably, both short attention span and constantly contradicting themselves in statements are very characteristic of NPD, but no doubt show up in other disorders as well. I only happen to have read more about narcissism now because Trump's caused a lot of people to talk about it.

eppur_se_muova

(36,257 posts)
21. Interesting! I had been wondering about that lately ...
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 09:55 AM
Oct 2016

tRump has so many things wrong with him, it's easy to understand if something got overlooked in the crush. He certainly can't start and finish a sentence before his mind has wandered from the original topic, and according to many witnesses, he can't focus on anything for a long time, no matter how important. But it's the H in ADHD that really stands out.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
5. Opposite of President Obama
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 07:18 AM
Oct 2016

You could not have 2 more different men than Trump and Obama. Literally if you challenged the greatest psychological minds on earth to find 2 men with personalities that were polar opposites, they could not come up with a more striking example.

To me thats the litmus test for people. If you meet a person who hates Obama and loves Trump, then you have met a truly messed up human being. They are seriously wired dangerously wrong.

 

factfinder_77

(841 posts)
7. Trump has taped into the "left behind"", feeling alone" and "extreme right" voters
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 07:24 AM
Oct 2016

And at some levels i can understand the "left behind", "feeling alone" voters.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
10. While it may be fun to try and diagnose Trump as suffering from some sort of pathology...
Sun Oct 9, 2016, 07:47 AM
Oct 2016

it betrays the simplest explanation that he's a festering asshole.

Response to Major Nikon (Reply #10)

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