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retrowire

(10,345 posts)
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:43 PM Oct 2016

Do you think this will actually change anything?

I honestly didn't think it could get worse.

But it did.

Holy shit.

But do YOU actually think it will change anything?

How much faith do you have in the American people to turn their backs on this?

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Do you think this will actually change anything? (Original Post) retrowire Oct 2016 OP
Yes I think this wil peel a few evangelical gopiscrap Oct 2016 #1
Top Evangelicals Stand By Trump oberliner Oct 2016 #51
the top ones will stand by him gopiscrap Oct 2016 #54
The Hillary-hate is very strong with that crowd oberliner Oct 2016 #56
Ralph Reed and Tony Perkins support unsolicited genital groping. forgotmylogin Oct 2016 #55
I thought we had seen beyond the pale, but this is wow onecaliberal Oct 2016 #2
It is not a surprise at all--it is who we knew him to be. The only surprise is that we have tblue37 Oct 2016 #41
Yep. A bit. His awful core wont care, but the fundies will have a hard time ignoring this... Lucinda Oct 2016 #3
ANd as with Cosby, more will come forward now, because they will have a tblue37 Oct 2016 #42
Yup voter depression and Evangilicals not voting MyNameIsKhan Oct 2016 #4
it will prevent things from changing in his favor. geek tragedy Oct 2016 #5
His ceiling now 40% Johnny2X2X Oct 2016 #7
If my Facebook feed is any indication, yes. MANative Oct 2016 #6
This is the woman he was talking about--Nancy O'Dell--who had been married for just a few months tblue37 Oct 2016 #45
He needs married suburban women to vote for him emulatorloo Oct 2016 #8
Absolutely. Trump has a full-on damage control problem. His ship is listing. ffr Oct 2016 #9
No Doreen Oct 2016 #10
I agree that the fundamentalists won't care, but a lot of Republicans will. yardwork Oct 2016 #20
I will believe Doreen Oct 2016 #21
Doesn't matter… regnaD kciN Oct 2016 #53
Agree. And DT's said MANY vile things yet spooky3 Oct 2016 #29
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2016 #32
Yes, because this is going to be the tip of the iceberg. femmedem Oct 2016 #11
According to Mark Halperin there are FOUR more tapes that will Pathwalker Oct 2016 #15
ewww we gotta learn about more?? retrowire Oct 2016 #19
Good! The Genealogist Oct 2016 #34
NY Times article about Trumps crude advances toward women: tblue37 Oct 2016 #46
Hillary was already set to win, so it doesn't change that... tinrobot Oct 2016 #12
YES, I think this is the death nail in the Con's casket. I also believe it will affect napi21 Oct 2016 #13
Yes, it will! Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #14
Landslide. retrowire Oct 2016 #17
Yes, I most certainly do. BigDemVoter Oct 2016 #16
Yes I DO. More women will vote than ever. Many R men will have too much work Maru Kitteh Oct 2016 #18
It greatly diminishes his chance of a comeback taught_me_patience Oct 2016 #22
It won't shake his core base, but radius777 Oct 2016 #23
Women who might not have been highly motivated to get out and vote for Hillary, will now. eom MoonRiver Oct 2016 #24
The "true Christians" won't give a shit Cosmocat Oct 2016 #25
But how could those undecideds see these comments spooky3 Oct 2016 #35
lol Cosmocat Oct 2016 #37
Why the Friday-Night news dump? That is where you dump stuff you don't want covered 4139 Oct 2016 #26
Yes...GOP politicians are coming out strong against what he said NoGoodNamesLeft Oct 2016 #27
It WILL affect at least 1-2% of holierthanthous who thrive on feigning being aghast blm Oct 2016 #28
Yes, Trump is going to get a good kicking, in the election, personally and financially. Doodley Oct 2016 #30
Yes he goes into the debate carrying this new load. The_Casual_Observer Oct 2016 #31
A nuclear bomb just went off inside of the Trump universe Setsuna1972 Oct 2016 #33
HRC is 45! Trump is sunk. Dawson Leery Oct 2016 #36
I think so, a little...there *are* decent Republicans out there... First Speaker Oct 2016 #38
This is just the beginning of the October Slam rufus dog Oct 2016 #39
a LOT of uneveolved men think we are just pussies, so they will ADORE THIS. pansypoo53219 Oct 2016 #40
It's baking the cake faster. TeamPooka Oct 2016 #43
Many potential Trump voters will sit this one out. Kingofalldems Oct 2016 #44
I thought it would, but after a visit to twitter... musicblind Oct 2016 #47
i feel like we could use this data retrowire Oct 2016 #48
Yes. The fact that a wealthy, predatory boor exists doesn't sur me. femmedem Oct 2016 #49
Yes. nt JTFrog Oct 2016 #50
He was already losing by a significant margin. stopbush Oct 2016 #52
Nope - nothing will change nadine_mn Oct 2016 #57

gopiscrap

(23,756 posts)
1. Yes I think this wil peel a few evangelical
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:45 PM
Oct 2016

and woman voters from him. It definitely won't garner any additional votes for him and he's already behind....

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
51. Top Evangelicals Stand By Trump
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 10:22 PM
Oct 2016
“I’ve listened to the tape, my view is that people of faith are voting on issues like who will protect unborn life, defend religious freedom, create jobs, and oppose the Iran nuclear deal,” Ralph Reed, the chairman of the Faith and Freedom Coalition and a member of Trump’s religious advisory board, said in a statement. “I think a 10-year-old tape of a private conversation with a TV talk show host ranks pretty low on their hierarchy of concerns.”

Family Research Council president Tony Perkins, another Trump supporter, told BuzzFeed he isn’t concerned with sharing “values” with the GOP nominee.

“My personal support for Donald Trump has never been based upon shared values, it is based upon shared concerns about issues such as: justices on the Supreme Court that ignore the constitution, America’s continued vulnerability to Islamic terrorists and the systematic attack on religious liberty that we’ve seen in the last 7 1/2 years,” he said in an email.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/evangelicals-trump_us_57f83051e4b068ecb5de95fb?section=

tblue37

(65,334 posts)
41. It is not a surprise at all--it is who we knew him to be. The only surprise is that we have
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:59 PM
Oct 2016

actual recorded evidence, not that it happened.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
3. Yep. A bit. His awful core wont care, but the fundies will have a hard time ignoring this...
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:45 PM
Oct 2016

and the media will dig for more.

tblue37

(65,334 posts)
42. ANd as with Cosby, more will come forward now, because they will have a
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:00 PM
Oct 2016

chance of being believed, and because he won't be able to hurt them now.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. it will prevent things from changing in his favor.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:47 PM
Oct 2016

He's locked in at 42%. That's his ceiling.

His floor? We'll see how many people show up for him.

MANative

(4,112 posts)
6. If my Facebook feed is any indication, yes.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:47 PM
Oct 2016

Blowing up tonight with this. Everyone (females especially) from my 85-year old aunt to my 23-year-old niece is FURIOUS, and some who had either remained circumspect about their choice or kept quiet about politics in general, are speaking out angrily and committing to ensuring that Trump is trounced by Hillary.

emulatorloo

(44,116 posts)
8. He needs married suburban women to vote for him
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:48 PM
Oct 2016

How do they and their husbands respond to his moving in on a married woman to "fuck" her.

I don't know for sure, but I when put myself in their shoes it makes me not to want to vote for me.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
9. Absolutely. Trump has a full-on damage control problem. His ship is listing.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:49 PM
Oct 2016


Sure to sink the GOP hopes coming up, without a doubt!

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
10. No
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:50 PM
Oct 2016

I hate saying it but to many of the fundamentalists do not believe in respect for women and the women who vote for him have long been beaten down into believing the mans word is the only word and all that counts is that they vote like their man tells them to. There are other things that will be changing peoples minds from Trump but women's rights are not one of them.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
20. I agree that the fundamentalists won't care, but a lot of Republicans will.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:59 PM
Oct 2016

I guarantee this is not going over well on small town Main Street. Not at all.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
21. I will believe
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:02 PM
Oct 2016

when I hear about a Trump voter who actually has the brains to change their vote away from Trump.

spooky3

(34,439 posts)
29. Agree. And DT's said MANY vile things yet
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:10 PM
Oct 2016

Millions of deplorables see nothing wrong with them, and support him. I can't see that this incident will change the mind of a single one of them.

femmedem

(8,201 posts)
11. Yes, because this is going to be the tip of the iceberg.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:50 PM
Oct 2016

I expect reporters will revisit Jill Harth's account of being groped, and Temple Taggart--1997's Miss Utah--account of being kissed on the lips without her consent. Who knows how many more?

It's going to be in the news cycle for days.

Pathwalker

(6,598 posts)
15. According to Mark Halperin there are FOUR more tapes that will
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:55 PM
Oct 2016

be released once a week for the next four weeks. IF you can believe him, plus a few more reporters who've said there are more coming. This isn't over, by a long shot.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
19. ewww we gotta learn about more??
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:57 PM
Oct 2016

Can't this be enough?

Leave it to Trump to bring smutty bullshit into politics. God damnit.

He's actually turned it all into a reality TV show.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
34. Good!
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:17 PM
Oct 2016

No doubt it is painful for the women this man has mistreated to have to rehash these awful events, but this kind of monstrous behavior in someone who is vying to be president needs the sun to shine on it.

tblue37

(65,334 posts)
46. NY Times article about Trumps crude advances toward women:
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:05 PM
Oct 2016
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html?_r=0

Crossing the Line: How Donald Trump Behaved With Women in Private
Interviews reveal unwelcome advances, a shrewd reliance on ambition, and unsettling workplace conduct over decades.

tinrobot

(10,895 posts)
12. Hillary was already set to win, so it doesn't change that...
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:53 PM
Oct 2016

The only thing that changes is how big of a margin he's going to give her.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
13. YES, I think this is the death nail in the Con's casket. I also believe it will affect
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:53 PM
Oct 2016

votes for Pubs running for reelection and supporting the Con.

I want to see what Ryan does about the appearance he's supposed to do with the Con tomorrow. BAD TIMING!

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
14. Yes, it will!
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:55 PM
Oct 2016

He will lose independent voters and a few conservatives as well.

His hard core base will support him no matter what, but they aren't enough to stop a landslide!

BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
16. Yes, I most certainly do.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:55 PM
Oct 2016

It will alienate quite a few women who for whatever the FUCK, cannot make up their minds for whom they want to vote. This will certainly push some "soft" Trump supporters away, and he cannot afford to lose ANY. Once FL goes BLUE, Trump is screwed.

Maru Kitteh

(28,339 posts)
18. Yes I DO. More women will vote than ever. Many R men will have too much work
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 07:56 PM
Oct 2016

to do, or "forget" to get themselves to the polls.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
22. It greatly diminishes his chance of a comeback
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:04 PM
Oct 2016

His pool of voters will be smaller after this. His supporters might start to get demoralized.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
23. It won't shake his core base, but
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:04 PM
Oct 2016

it will cut off his ability to grow his support, and may even suppress turnout amongst the nevertrumpers (who may've turned out at the last second to vote against hillary) and social conservatives.

This is likely the beginning of an avalanche about to rain down on Trump.

We haven't even gotten into the Trump Model Agency sweatshop/visa fraud thing, which I think is even worse than this, because it cuts down his populist/tough on immigration image.

Cosmocat

(14,563 posts)
25. The "true Christians" won't give a shit
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:07 PM
Oct 2016

the 40% or so so republican base won't budge, but it probably will nudge a bit of the "undecideds" who probably were never going to vote for him, but have a hard time getting Hillary, to Hillary.

spooky3

(34,439 posts)
35. But how could those undecideds see these comments
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:24 PM
Oct 2016

As out of synch with the many other things he's said and done?

Cosmocat

(14,563 posts)
37. lol
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:28 PM
Oct 2016

yeah, I know ... But it is getting close and if they are more repulsed by him than Hill, which you have to believe most of the hold outs are, maybe it nudges them where they need to go ... Maybe.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
27. Yes...GOP politicians are coming out strong against what he said
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:08 PM
Oct 2016

One GOP woman even referred to it as violence against women.

blm

(113,043 posts)
28. It WILL affect at least 1-2% of holierthanthous who thrive on feigning being aghast
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:09 PM
Oct 2016

and that is plenty enough for some of us in NC and other swing states.

Setsuna1972

(332 posts)
33. A nuclear bomb just went off inside of the Trump universe
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:15 PM
Oct 2016

And this was a direct hit ! He's done. There's no way out of this mess .

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
36. HRC is 45! Trump is sunk.
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:27 PM
Oct 2016

The only question is the margin of victory for HRC and Democrats down ballot, including the house.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
38. I think so, a little...there *are* decent Republicans out there...
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:32 PM
Oct 2016

...I know some. They still support Trump, but know as well as anyone what his defects are. This is exactly the sort of thing that will disgust them. They probably won't vote for Hillary, but they might just sit the Presidential race out...

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
39. This is just the beginning of the October Slam
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 08:34 PM
Oct 2016

Intended to embarrass republican voters and create a wedge between Trump deplorables and the other republicans. Down ticket candidates will have to try to keep both sides happy, which is an impossible task.

So let's say Trump quits, you think camp Clinton won't have the Kaine/Pence debate clips ready with Pence refusing to condemn Trump? They are being put into a lose/lose situation.

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
47. I thought it would, but after a visit to twitter...
Fri Oct 7, 2016, 09:12 PM
Oct 2016

... most of these deplorable people supporting Trump are just doubling down on being deplorable.

I truly believe these people are horrible human beings and want a horrible human being for president. So no, I don't think this will change much.

femmedem

(8,201 posts)
49. Yes. The fact that a wealthy, predatory boor exists doesn't sur me.
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 10:18 PM
Oct 2016

But the number of Americans who cheer him on has startled and frightened me. I wish I knew if it was our media, our income inequality, our racist and predatory national history that made this possible...and is this new, or has our national character always been this appalling?

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
57. Nope - nothing will change
Sat Oct 8, 2016, 11:15 PM
Oct 2016

Trump has a hard core group of supporters that have repeatedly shown that they will dig in their heels and support him no matter what.

There is no political leverage to gain for the politicians who have supported or endorsed Trump to dump him now. Voters with integrity will see dumping Trump now as too little too late or as cowardly turning their backs on their nominee.

Any one in the GOP who acts "surprised" by these statements will come across as disingenuous, naive or stupid.

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