2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumUnskewedPolls.com rises from the dead! They Distort, You Decide!
Cast your vote in their post-election poll.
http://unskewedpolls.com/ (I'd link you directly to the poll, but you don't want to miss the exciting front page.)
Scenario 1 -- Massive vote fraud
Scenario 2 -- Some vote fraud
Scenario 3 -- Obama legitimately reelected
Oh, there are more questions after you submit your choice of "scenarios." I don't know if it's worth my time or yours to answer.
Should we do our own poll here?
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)Does anyone know if he paid up?
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Last edited Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:44 AM - Edit history (1)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021653878And here's a follow-up: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251218216
But I haven't found what happened next...
Update: Surprise! The unskewed polls weasel, Dean Chambers, welched on the bet.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021809125
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)Of course I'm not surprised. I knew he would welch. Thanks for looking that up.
ck4829
(35,069 posts)If the right is trying to encapsulate itself from the rest of society, then I think we should help them complete that process however we can.
I guess someone just really didn't want the rethugs to win.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)involving over 50% of the American voters!!!!!!
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)from Ohio and Governor Rick Scott.
mzteaze
(448 posts)You have to read his article at Examiner.com....he sort of apologizes.
The comments rightfully skewer him. LOL
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Is "People who are still visiting unskewedpolls.com" even sort of an unskewed sample? Sounds like he's up to his old tricks.
Do you have a link to the Examiner piece?
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)I just didn't know.
Anyhow, he says,
He predicted Romney would win 275 electoral votes. In fact, Romney won 206 electoral votes. How is there any "point of view" in which he was not proven wrong?
When a hack like this is considered a legitimate source of news or analysis, depending on your point of view, a huge swath of the American public has gone down the rabbit hole, through the looking glass, off the cliff, or out of their fucking minds.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)who knew by giving some hope to the right he would become famous (for 15 minutes). A week before he said 275 electoral votes, he claimed mitt would get around 350. It was a complete joke but that didn't stop the clowns on the right from quoting this nobody as an oracle. Freeking hilarious.
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)leftlibdem420
(256 posts)The one with Jews and Asians going for Romney.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)"manly" enough, or somesuch stupid slur.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)The way the questions were written were absolute garbage and violate several rules of writing a survey.
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he skews the results.
Someone should also tell him his "poll" is open to manipulation. I voted two different times and could vote multiple times if I really wanted to.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)anonymous proxies. Real genius, that guy.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Because I was in China for part of the last year. I could make myself look like I'm in any city.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Chinese, and North Korean cities? It could be the next windmill he tilts.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I do have a few in Russia. The dirtbag isn't worth my time. I'd rather send him some slimfast and a book on losing weight.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)I thought I'd have to give him credit for apologizing for his comments about Nate Silver being obviously an incompetent poll analyst due to his "effeminate" voice and appearance.
But, he had to go and ruin it with this:
Unskewed founder Dean Chambers is the Bizarro Nate Silver. Whereas Silver is a mathematical and statistical savant whos a half man, half slide-rule chimera a skinny New Yorker whos devised astonishingly accurate forecasting models for both sports and politics, and who exhaustively explains his work on a daily basis aboard his FiveThirtyEight blog for the New York Times. And then theres Chambers, a portly Southern amateur who thinks hes uncovered a widespread polling scam when, in fact, hes merely stripped out any and all accuracy or calculated methodology and just, you know, made stuff up to confirm his political bias, boost his internet traffic and win the adulation of terrified, flailing conservatives scrambling for electoral life preservers as the Romney-Ryan campaign ship rapidly takes on water.
http://www.examiner.com/article/regarding-my-comments-about-nate-silver-s-appearance
So you can see how he was forced to say this about someone other than the person who referred to him as portly:
yashoo
(55 posts)like any true conservative, he's not going to let a gargantuan public embarrassment and failure deter him from making a little more money off of the crazies
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)Firebirds01
(576 posts)He tried to discredit Silver by saying he was thin an effeminate. I guess your worth as a person is dependent on how much you bench?
In his "apology" he says this....
Does he know that Silver said he would likely vote for Romney or a libertarian candidate???/
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)So, has anyone who's not a troll heard Silver say that?
FleetwoodMac
(351 posts)Because halfway down the page, there is a poll summary that shows Romney leading!
YayArea
(71 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)In the follow-up questions, that asks your religion.
One of the options is "Christian" and another option is "Catholic"
????
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Baptist
Catholic
Christian
Latter Day Saints
Lutheran
Mennonite
Lutheran
Reformed (Jewish only ,I'm guessing)
Other (Adventist, Anglican, Brethren, Friends, Orthodox, Pentecostal, Presbyterian, United Church of Christ, None.)
Most of those should be subcategories of Christian, it seems to me. I guess it makes sense not to bother with indicating that on the map itself, but they could do so in the key. Do we assume plain old Christian is the same as Fundie or Evangelical?
By the way, don't miss seeing the various maps, including the aforementioned, overlaid on the electoral map and various adjusted for proportionately adjusted maps in this DU thread.
It's odd that (un)skewed dude only separates out Catholics from the others under the Christian umbrella. (What would Paul Ryan say?) And it annoys me that he lists Atheist and Agnostic as religions. Here are his categories (for anyone not wanting to take the poll to find out):
Christian
Catholic
Jewish
Hindu
Buddhist
Muslim
Atheist or Agnostic
Other
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)I was curious about "Reformed" as a denomination -- as they are clustered in Western Michigan, you can pretty much bet that it's not Jewish.
The Protestant Reformed Churches is this weird Calvinist denomination concentrated around Holland, MI. They're mighty conservative: if your spouse is unfaithful or abusive, you're allowed to get a divorce, but you're NEVER allowed to remarry. That would be adultery. Only men are allowed to vote on church matters. You get the picture.
Turns out I know one of the adherents. She's a very pleasant young woman, but I'm pretty sure she voted for Romney.
Edit: Kind of surprised they even showed up on the map, really. It's a pretty minor sect.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)grandmother divorced her husband, because he was an abusive drunkard and cheater. She always said she could never remarry because of the church. Funny thing, I'm pretty sure the rule was that you were not supposed to divorce in the first place.
She lived in Maryland all her life, so, I guess it wouldn't be likely she got that idea from some "Reformed" person.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)The "old school" doctrine was one marriage per customer (lifetime limit). But I think these days there is some sensitivity and that an annulment might be an option.
Full Disclosure: I'm a Lutheran, so I'm hardly an expert on this subject.
shawn703
(2,702 posts)The country is going to end because we elected the Marxist Fascist Kenyan. Shouldn't he start packing his survivalist gear rather than analyzing polls?
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Unfortunately, no promise to spend that dosh retreating to a cave to await the apocalypse. Maybe if we throw him a going astray party?