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Mon Sep 26, 2016, 03:59 PM

What the hell is this? "All News Networks Have Refused To Fact Check Trump Live During The Debate"

PoliticusUSA

This is getting more and more surreal

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/26/news-networks-refused-fact-check-trump-screen-debate.html

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Reply What the hell is this? "All News Networks Have Refused To Fact Check Trump Live During The Debate" (Original post)
ailsagirl Sep 2016 OP
phallon Sep 2016 #1
hertopos Sep 2016 #2
bullimiami Sep 2016 #3
musicblind Sep 2016 #17
boomer55 Sep 2016 #21
bullimiami Oct 2016 #25
asiliveandbreathe Sep 2016 #4
ailsagirl Sep 2016 #6
Agnosticsherbet Sep 2016 #5
vlyons Sep 2016 #7
asiliveandbreathe Sep 2016 #11
greyl Sep 2016 #8
ailsagirl Sep 2016 #9
greyl Sep 2016 #22
Drunken Irishman Sep 2016 #10
chillfactor Sep 2016 #13
Drunken Irishman Sep 2016 #23
greyl Sep 2016 #14
bettyellen Sep 2016 #20
tavernier Sep 2016 #12
BSdetect Sep 2016 #16
musicblind Sep 2016 #19
Bill USA Sep 2016 #15
JoePhilly Sep 2016 #18
sarcasmo Sep 2016 #24
beachbumbob Oct 2016 #26
Mz Pip Oct 2016 #27
agingdem Oct 2016 #28

Response to ailsagirl (Original post)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:01 PM

1. As recommended by

The chairman of the Debate Commission and, Trump

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Response to ailsagirl (Original post)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:06 PM

2. Except Bloomberg

I am going to watch Bloomberg.

My day time job is financial planner and I am CFP.
I do not like MSNBC in many way and I usually check Bloomberg for markets and economy
related news. They also have more women talking heads.

Mr. Bloomberg himself is a billionaire but he is the most vocal anti-gun movement sponsor.
Not all billionaire is completely evil.

Hertopos

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Response to ailsagirl (Original post)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:06 PM

3. we need serious media reform. "news" is facts. period.

none of these are news stations.

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Response to bullimiami (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:32 PM

17. Amen!

News isn't meant to be entertaining, it is meant to be informative.

Imagine if we overhauled our school system in the same way we have overhauled out news media?

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Response to bullimiami (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:41 PM

21. nah we lost that fight a long time ago with Faux news and their lawsuit. :(

 

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Response to boomer55 (Reply #21)

Sat Oct 1, 2016, 10:32 AM

25. Anyone is welcome to opine ad nauseum. My proposal is simple.

News shows would have to be declared and registered as "News".
News broadcasts would have a name, label, bug, whatever, that informs viewers that this is "News".

"News" would be subject to a reality doctrine with penalties imposed for violation.

Early violation penalties could be as simple as the broadcast having to inform viewers that it has been caught violating the rules, and broadcast corrections in the same vein they broadcast the original. No 5 sec at midnight, oops.
Ill call that probation.
More serious or continued violations and that show would lose its "News" label.

Nothing else has to change. Noone has to pay any fines. The public would know if it says "News" it is required to be factual.

This still leaves plenty of leeway for interpretation but if they want to say black is white, white is black, 3 is 15.
BAM. You no longer have a "News" label.

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Response to ailsagirl (Original post)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:09 PM

4. Directv - channel 353 Bloomberg will fact check

Others will see your thread and advise us of live stream online..I will keep looking....

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Response to asiliveandbreathe (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:10 PM

6. Thank you-- the implication is "facts are irrelevant"

A fervent repuke belief

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Response to ailsagirl (Original post)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:10 PM

5. We have no news services. We have Infotainment Media Conglomerates

In reality, there should be a meter that rates the factual content of each statement, live and in real time, so viewers can see an independent source.

We have reduced a debate to "She said/He said."

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Response to ailsagirl (Original post)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:11 PM

7. HRC will just have to do her own fact checking.

She's capable of it. She knows her facts like the back of her hand. She'll probably start out very politely saying something like, "That's not accurate, Mr Trump." Then proceed to something like, "Once again Mr Trump, that's not accurate." Followed by, "Mr Trump, you can't just make up statements that aren't true. The American people need to know that their president understands the issues and the facts influencing policy decisions." Don't know if she'll call him a liar. Probably not, because that's impolite, and she's a lady and a diplomat.

I'm SURE that she will deal with his lies and BS. She has a strategy all worked out with how deal with it presidentially.

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Response to vlyons (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:19 PM

11. And a diplomat - key -

Hillary has been around the world negotiating - understanding the people she has had to influence on policy...seems to me - trump only has one SOP - attack and dismiss...sorry dumpy trumpy, not this time, not this place, not this venue, more than your haters will be watching...and that's all ya' got..haters..

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Response to ailsagirl (Original post)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:12 PM

8. "Live" isn't as important as afterward, so no big deal imo.

People should pay attention to the 3 live people on stage, not the crawls.

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Response to greyl (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:13 PM

9. True

But just the notion that "facts are irrelevant" blows my mind

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Response to ailsagirl (Reply #9)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:49 PM

22. But the "Fact Checking" of this debate has become such a huge story,

that media will be competing with each other to be the best at it.

( That's the way it's supposed to work, anyhow )

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Response to greyl (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:17 PM

10. Disagree. Most people don't watch the follow up. They turn the TV off after the debate.

This is a big reason Trump was so successful in the Republican debates - he lied throughout the entire debate and, when things finally ended, the audience turned things off and didn't hear the inevitable questioning of his facts.

Some will remain, but on the whole, I'd wager once it's finished, the TVs come off.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #10)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:21 PM

13. I will watch the follow up...

not the debate...the follow-up is the best part.

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Response to chillfactor (Reply #13)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:53 PM

23. I agree. But you're also a political junkie.

Unfortunately, most Americans aren't.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #10)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:26 PM

14. Do you think people should depend on 1 source for fact checking? (bloomberg?!?)

Not me.

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Response to greyl (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:40 PM

20. But most people don't watch the whole thing, let alone afterward, so this is good.

 

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Response to ailsagirl (Original post)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:21 PM

12. Hillary should point out the first blatant lie,

and if Holt doesn't acknowledge agreement, come the second lie she should direct the viewing audience to turn to Bloomberg where fact checkers are monitoring both candidates.

That will put NBC in a tizzy.

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Response to tavernier (Reply #12)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:29 PM

16. Now that might get them to intervene live!

That would be a hilarious moment.

Hope she does just that.

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Response to tavernier (Reply #12)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:33 PM

19. That would be epic. n/t

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Response to ailsagirl (Original post)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:27 PM

15. what did you expect? this is a M$M held "debate", wouldn't want lil Donnie to go home crying.

I think Hillary should come in with one of those "clown" horns . She should squeeze it whenever the King of Clowns utters one of his doozies.

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Response to ailsagirl (Original post)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 04:32 PM

18. Just record all of Trumps statements and then add a LIE-O-METER.

Its a perfect advertisement.

You could let it run in fast-forward mode, with counter that goes "ding", and then announce the final, "Lies per minute" score.

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Response to ailsagirl (Original post)

Mon Sep 26, 2016, 06:33 PM

24. A short delayed feed to fact check. A fact check ticker at the bottom of the screen.

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Response to ailsagirl (Original post)

Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:04 AM

26. Trump lies are so obvious as its 90% of what he says...

Besides he will never get pass insulting those who's votes he needs

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Response to ailsagirl (Original post)

Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:10 AM

27. They will have plenty to do afterwards

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All the fact checking they will be doing after the debate will keep them busy until after the election.

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Response to ailsagirl (Original post)

Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:13 AM

28. Hillary's got this!

She is more than capable of calling trump out on his lies during the debates. She is smart, savvy, and surrounds herself with the best of the best. She's taken crap from the media most of her adult life. She knows how to get under his very thin very orange skin. He's a narcissistic sociopath...a bully..and every time she punches him in the face (figuratively speaking) he runs home to Fox. Like I said she's got this.

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