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molova

(543 posts)
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 04:58 AM Sep 2016

NY Times editorial: By refusing to release returns, Trump "is disqualifying himself as a candidate"

Excerpts:

All major party nominees for president going back nearly 40 years have released their tax returns except Donald Trump. That leads to a simple question: What is he hiding?


...

Mr. Trump has offered nothing but fallacious excuses for keeping his returns secret. Initially, he said he would not release returns until the Internal Revenue Service completed an ongoing audit; the agency said there’s no rule stopping disclosure during an audit. Recently, one of his sons said the returns are so long and complex that people would ask too many questions if they were allowed to see them. None of these claims make sense.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/21/opinion/mr-trumps-stupid-excuses-on-taxes.html


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NY Times editorial: By refusing to release returns, Trump "is disqualifying himself as a candidate" (Original Post) molova Sep 2016 OP
Kick for the morning crew nt lillypaddle Sep 2016 #1
Sadly, his base doesnt care. Matthew28 Sep 2016 #2
And we don't care about them. They are lost to the human race. anamandujano Sep 2016 #23
Everything about this clown disqualifies him as a candidate. trusty elf Sep 2016 #3
Trump has already weighed the costs of not releasing his taxes. He oasis Sep 2016 #4
Yes and Yes. riversedge Sep 2016 #13
K&R UCmeNdc Sep 2016 #5
K&R KewlKat Sep 2016 #6
Maybe that's the October surprise? LittleGirl Sep 2016 #7
If he's actually in the hole - that's the one thing that might shock his fans. ehrnst Sep 2016 #9
from your lips to...n/t LittleGirl Sep 2016 #17
Would be nice if these returns were somehow leaked NewJeffCT Sep 2016 #18
+1 eom LittleGirl Sep 2016 #20
There are policemen, FBI and courts to take care of any trumpers who try anything. anamandujano Sep 2016 #24
Indeed. If a candidate hides his financial records, that raises far, far too many red flags. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2016 #8
Trump is hiding crimes that would be revealed by studying his tax returns. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #10
This is the biggest thing. What's Don hiding? bettyellen Sep 2016 #19
He should be required to release the audit letter mainstreetonce Sep 2016 #11
I sometimes think he's offered himself bucolic_frolic Sep 2016 #12
Don the Coward n/t VWolf Sep 2016 #14
"Show your taxes" is the demand that will bring trump down. It needs to be hammered relentlessly NBachers Sep 2016 #15
I think all have a pretty good idea why he is hiding his taxes. He's a cheat, a fraud, world wide wally Sep 2016 #16
That's the definitive campaign message - Euphoria Sep 2016 #21
on the other hand, nyt, you have been complicit every step of the way with this orange niyad Sep 2016 #22

trusty elf

(7,482 posts)
3. Everything about this clown disqualifies him as a candidate.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 05:20 AM
Sep 2016

Of course, for the GOP, that doesn't matter.

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oasis

(51,722 posts)
4. Trump has already weighed the costs of not releasing his taxes. He
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 05:31 AM
Sep 2016

knows he'll take a bigger hit if he does.

LittleGirl

(8,452 posts)
7. Maybe that's the October surprise?
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 06:30 AM
Sep 2016

He's either not paid taxes for years and/or isn't worth what he spouts that he's worth. Either way, the trumpers don't care. And honestly, they are the problem more so than Trump. Seriously, if he wins, it will be the worst thing that could happen to America and if he loses, these trumpers will say it was rigged and will want to burn the house down. Damn if we do, damned if we don't.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
9. If he's actually in the hole - that's the one thing that might shock his fans.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 06:41 AM
Sep 2016

He's built this whole persona of "big winner," that his fans adore. Like the poor whites who looked at that plantation house on the hill, and thought that someday, that'll be them.

If he lied about being a "big winner" financially, that might be unforgivable.

NewJeffCT

(56,840 posts)
18. Would be nice if these returns were somehow leaked
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 09:41 AM
Sep 2016

My guess:

1) After subtracting his debts to Russia, China and Saudi Arabia, The Donald is worth less than $100 million. Possibly less than $50 million.
2) Trump owes hundreds of millions to Russia, China and Saudi Arabia
3) Trump's charitable donations are negligible.
4) His tax rate paid is well under 10%
5) He took advantage of a lot of tax breaks that should not have been allowed.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
8. Indeed. If a candidate hides his financial records, that raises far, far too many red flags. (nt)
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 06:39 AM
Sep 2016

Bernardo de La Paz

(51,036 posts)
10. Trump is hiding crimes that would be revealed by studying his tax returns.
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 06:42 AM
Sep 2016

Not the kind of crimes that come out in IRS audits, but crimes that investigative journalists find by cross-correlating with other documents, including those from his foundation.

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
11. He should be required to release the audit letter
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 07:15 AM
Sep 2016

Immediately.

Is that letter so private that the IRS could confirm or deny that such a letter exists?


Here is what I hope. The October surprise is the IRS saying they never sent an audit letter for the past year.

bucolic_frolic

(47,158 posts)
12. I sometimes think he's offered himself
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 07:18 AM
Sep 2016

as quasi-satire, to show how casino values differ from
the alleged family values of Republicans

He's undermined everything they stood for, and trounced
the Clown Car occupants as the prigs they were, offering
bluster that outshone their fake moral fronts

Then I wake up and say "nah! He is what he says and it
ain't pretty or thoughtful."

NBachers

(18,158 posts)
15. "Show your taxes" is the demand that will bring trump down. It needs to be hammered relentlessly
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 07:39 AM
Sep 2016

every place he goes, every day and every night. We need to put this out in front of him constantly and inescapably.

This is the best way to provoke trump and drive him over the edge.

niyad

(120,302 posts)
22. on the other hand, nyt, you have been complicit every step of the way with this orange
Wed Sep 21, 2016, 07:00 PM
Sep 2016

hitler. if you had actually done your jobs as journalists, told the truth about this sick, twisted, perverted, lying, thieving, misogynistic, bigoted, hate-mongering pos, he would not be the nominee of the pukes.

not sure what it is going to take for you, and all the rest of the msm, to redeem yourselves. not sure you can.

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