2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumObama wins Florida!
Final Electoral count: 332 for Obama 206 for Romney
Popular vote
Barack Obama Obama 61,206,825
50.5%
Mitt Romney Romney 58,193,424
48.0%
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results
gademocrat7
(11,062 posts)Florida,keep turning blue.
boingboinh
(290 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)running rampant in Florida!
Goes to show how powerful and loved President Obama is.
yellowcanine
(36,238 posts)And likely it was in the thousands, perhaps more. No way to really know, unfortunately.
Raster
(20,999 posts)...their legal and lawful vote suppressed.
The electoral infrastructure in Florida is broken. The Governor is a criminal and belongs in prison.
mnhtnbb
(31,828 posts)which was a difference of 0.7% of the vote.
Cha
(303,832 posts)Thanks mnhtnbb.. sorry about North Carolina. I know you all worked so hard!
It's ok, at least he won! But NC was close too!
Cha
(303,832 posts)yends21012
(228 posts)LongTomH
(8,636 posts)You are no longer a Master of the Universe!
democrattotheend
(12,007 posts)Or are these final results from the SOS?
mnhtnbb
(31,828 posts)are still being counted (Palm Beach and Duval)
Despite the never-ending counting of ballots in Florida, Mitt Romneys campaign on Thursday recognized that President Obama is on his way to victory there. With only ballots from Democratic-leaning counties left to be counted, the final tally was not expected to change the outcome, Republican acknowledged.
We thought based on our polling and range of organization that we had done what we needed to win, Brett Doster, a Florida adviser for Mitt Romney, told The Miami Herald in a statement. Obviously we didnt, and for that I and every other operative in Florida has a sick feeling that we left something on the table. I can assure you this wont happen again.
By Thursday afternoon, the state Division of Elections Web site said Mr. Obama led Mr. Romney 49.9 percent to 49.2 percent, with a difference of about 55,000 votes out of more than eight million votes cast. Several counties continued to count absentee ballots throughout the day. An official declaration is expected on Friday, and an Obama victory would give him 332 electoral votes to Mr. Romneys 206.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/08/romney-aide-says-campaign-lost-florida/?ref=politics
dixiegrrrrl
(60,011 posts)"we....thought.....we had done what we needed to win,
"I can assure you this wont happen again.
Am I the only one who heard, in that sentence, " we did not cheat enough, but watch out for next time"?
Graybeard
(6,996 posts)I took this to mean that the guy who screwed up
is already sleeping with the fishes.
LisaL
(46,161 posts)lexw
(804 posts)I think that's why they were so shocked and waited: they had plans to steal, but someone wasn't doing what they were told or something was working.
Graybeard
(6,996 posts)No challenge by the sore losers? No recounts because of some obscure state regulation?
If so....and I certainly hope it is....then
LisaL
(46,161 posts)But Obama's lead is such that it should hold.
texshelters
(1,979 posts)trying to steal the state since they wouldn't win the election even with Florida.
PTxS
LukeFL
(594 posts)Number. It is impossible to imagine all those ppl doing long lines 4-9 hrs voting for Romney.
We will never know the true number in which Obama won, but I can assure you it was not 60k
yellowcanine
(36,238 posts)With considerable assistance from Nate Silver although he had not yet turned Florida blue as I recall.
jsmirman
(4,507 posts)Or do you just mean solid in Florida?
Because 332 EVs - that is a rout.
ffr
(23,034 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,828 posts)My guess is that the Romney campaign--and MSM--will be happy to bury the story late Friday afternoon.
Election is over anyway--why draw attention to how fu*ked up Florida is?
yellowcanine
(36,238 posts)Daniel537
(1,560 posts)News organization need to stop playing games and call it already.
yellowcanine
(36,238 posts)But given that provisionals will likely break at least as well for Obama as the other votes, it would seem to be insurmountable, yes.
Daniel537
(1,560 posts)but this is Florida, so god only knows, but everybody from both campaigns to political analysts down here in FL say its going to Obama, hands down.
yellowcanine
(36,238 posts)mnhtnbb
(31,828 posts)11/8/12, 4:35 PM ET Final 2012 Electoral Vote Results (Romney has conceded Florida): Obama 332, Romney 206
www.freedomslighthouse.net
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)I know, it was an electoral landslide.
It was close. Far too close. I'll go further and say that in an educated society Romney would never have been on the ballot.
I'm thrilled. And I'm disgusted. But I don't know what it would take, and how long it would take in order to turn things around given so many are struggling to keep those 58 million ignorant.
ffr
(23,034 posts)Can you imagine the fight the Rethugs will put up to prevent that?
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)It's more important than roads.
And yes, rural should be as important as any of the rest. Rural ed and med both suck.
I know it will never happen, but if I had my way I'd drop the military funding to 10% of what it is now. Then we'd be level with the next biggest army. Then we could have good education and medical.
ready2go83
(80 posts)No way should this idiot have gotten as many votes. But we outnumber them, we are the sane ones.
MisterJones
(23 posts)Romney won 47.7 percent of the raw vote and they rounded up. Serves him right.
ffr
(23,034 posts)RR would have needed to beat PBO by 3% in the popular vote to win and yesterday's numbers showed that would have been > 5.5 million votes on top of what RR had.
RR were waaaay off in their predictions. Imagine how poor a Pres he would have made????
War - whoops, we miscalculated
Economy - whoops, we miscalculated
Deficit reduction - whoops, we miscalculated
IDIOT!
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)ywcachieve
(365 posts)HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)coeur_de_lion
(3,778 posts)Take that Rick Scott! You bastard.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Just sayin'.
colsohlibgal
(5,276 posts)Ohio and Florida are the cherries on top, what bodes well is that Obama would have still won if he had lost those two states.
I'm not sure what's holding up anyone else, provisional ballots will only pad the league.
Filibuster Harry
(666 posts)sebastianj333
(99 posts)now, let the civil war in the GOP begin!
BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)The 2008 and 2012 electoral maps look nearly identical.
RosedaleGuy
(89 posts)yet he barely won that.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)busted their asses for months and months down there. OFA had a huge operation. Democrats held their convention there.
In 2008, Obama's performance in North Carolina was about 7% nationally. This year it was 4.7% worse than nationally.
That improvement doesn't happen without a lot of fighting.
oswaldactedalone
(3,545 posts)in NC. You might mean that since Obama and Biden didn't appear here after the convention that they didn't try but OFA gave it everything they had. I think it really shows what amazing upsets we had in NC and Indiana in '08.
NC is facing an unprecedented problem with Thug gov, supermajorities in both state houses and only 4 US House reps for the first time in forever.
We have to be very serious in '14 to keep Kay Hagan in the Senate and win back seats in the state legislature.
mnhtnbb
(31,828 posts)And although Obama received MORE votes in NC this time than he did
in 2008, it wasn't enough.
President Obama received 2,177,794 votes
http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/NC/42923/110329/Web01/en/summary.html
In 2008 he received 2,142,651 votes--and won by 14,000 votes.
http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/NC/7937/21334/en/summary.html
The reason Obama lost NC this time: racism. Pure and simple.
We had >800,000 voter advantage (registered Dems over Repubs) but those
Dems did NOT vote for the Democratic Presidential candidate. Why?
Racism and bigotry.
Very sad. I was very disappointed.
LisaL
(46,161 posts)You guys did an amazing job.
jsmirman
(4,507 posts)guess they didn't smell what the Rock was cooking, lol.
RosedaleGuy
(89 posts)because he ran a campaign that only appealed to his base. The GOP self-destructed.
liberalmuse
(18,849 posts)I want to give them all a HUGE hug!
jerome arizona
(3 posts)he called popular vote 50.8 to 48.3...exactly 2.5 difference! And his numbers keep me sane!
TroyD
(4,551 posts)From what I can tell, CNN, NBC etc. have not yet called it. Is it just The Huffington Post so far?
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/main?hpt=po_c2
LisaL
(46,161 posts)But I think they have to be done by tomorrow.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)But it's looking like an Obama win, since even the Romney campaign basically conceded yesterday.
Pretty good result, and probably would have been even higher had it not been for Rick Scott's vote-fixing.
Is it true that only 90% of Ohio is in?
LisaL
(46,161 posts)So, a lot of OH votes is still out.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)The final PPP & SurveyUSA polls showed a +5 lead, and yet he is only at +2 over Romney.
So if Obama's lead doesn't increase there, I think we can suspect the Republicans engaged in some vote theft.
LisaL
(46,161 posts)Provisional ballots normally favor democrats.
mnhtnbb
(31,828 posts)LisaL
(46,161 posts)PoliticalBiker
(328 posts)... got a thourough drubbing Tuesday.
Though the only thing you will ever hear from them are angry denials and lame excuses.
The republicrap party needs to just go away.... useless, incompetent, out of touch, racist, hateful, angry...
jsmirman
(4,507 posts)what a rout.
Total domination.
fearnobush
(3,960 posts)In Florida. He should top out at 1.1 percent. In Ohio, I expect 130 to 150 k provisional ballots with 80 to 100k of those going to Obama. He should clear 3 PTs their. By next Friday we will see mittins at 47.4% to Obama at 50.9% in popular vote. Obama will win by 3.5 % nationally. BTW,
To all those who worked their asses off in Florida, congrats and you deserve this one 100%. You guys rock.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,467 posts)A wild, wacky, crazy, off the wall, dysfunctional blue state, mind you, but a blue state nonetheless. And I wouldn't have it any other way!
ready2go83
(80 posts)FANTASTIC! But I'm still weary that this moron got 48% of the votes, even more than Mccain. At least Mccain was a war hero that stuck to his principles. This idiot shouldn't have gotten more than 1%.
mnhtnbb
(31,828 posts)"We're not going to call the race at any point until we actually certify the results [on Nov. 20]," Florida Department of State spokesman Chris Cate said. "We'll keep reporting results and let the media do the calling of the race. But I think the best indicator that we can give will be on Saturday when we either order a recount or if we don't. If we don't order a recount on Saturday, then I think that will be the best indicator that we can give as to who will be the ultimate winner when we certify the results."
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Thousands of residents have sent virulent emails to Gov. Rick Scott complaining and vowing not to vote for him in the 2016 election. But Scott defended the state on Friday. "What I'm trying to do is improve the way government works," Scott told The Miami Herald. "I believe in efficiency. I believe every vote has to count. I want to have a good process that people feel good about."
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/12654/20121110/florida-election-results-2012-obama-wins-state-palm-beach-vote-count.htm
Boy, if that's efficiency...well...what a joke!