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KMOD

(7,906 posts)
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 11:28 PM Aug 2016

Who are the radical left, you ask?

Well one only needs to take a trip to the JPR site to find them.

You will find dozens of people who post there who fit the description. Many of them used to post here, portraying themselves as progressives.

If you were to take a trip there, you will soon see that they are indistinguishable from the alt-right idiots.

Some of them continue to post there and attempt to spread their nonsense here as well. I have no use for those idiots.

I do feel sorry for any who joined JPR and now regret it. Now that they see what they are actually about and what agenda they are pushing, I hope those folks come back.

The rest are just ratfuckers. They always were. They're just out and open about it now. Those ones can eff off.

Who are the radical left, you ask? (Original Post) KMOD Aug 2016 OP
They aren't the left. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #1
True. KMOD Aug 2016 #2
Trollz gonna troll nt geek tragedy Aug 2016 #3
as they always do Younemeen Aug 2016 #141
For that matter, who are YOU to define what being progressive or liberal means? Ken Burch Aug 2016 #167
When they are voting for trump, KMOD Aug 2016 #168
Unfortunately as long as they identify as "left" forjusticethunders Aug 2016 #4
Yup. KMOD Aug 2016 #5
No, many are left, far left, even though the owner is Hortensis Aug 2016 #12
There's a certain number of people in society - left, right, center - who will find something.... George II Aug 2016 #39
What is JPR? padfun Aug 2016 #6
psst Hekate Aug 2016 #7
Thanks for the name padfun Aug 2016 #31
A mix of a small number of earnest people who Hortensis Aug 2016 #14
wow, that is an interesting site padfun Aug 2016 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author padfun Aug 2016 #29
Your right, but watch it, comments like that bring out the Right wing of the acceptable Left . orpupilofnature57 Aug 2016 #42
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #107
The time I went there, I didn't see much of that DFW Aug 2016 #8
Another article about them? LeftRant Aug 2016 #9
I've learned they are idiots out and open ratfucker idiots just like alt-right idiots. Festivito Aug 2016 #10
When hatred of Hillary/Barack is one's obsession, it is difficult to distinguish one from the alt pampango Aug 2016 #11
I don't think they are the true radical left--well some of them are ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #13
It's the horseshoe theory in action. DanTex Aug 2016 #15
Yup. Extremist traits common to both outnumber differences. Hortensis Aug 2016 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author G_j Aug 2016 #16
Great post. bigwillq Aug 2016 #17
Ugh! I hope you aren't a member of that forum G_j KMOD Aug 2016 #18
False equivalence G_j Aug 2016 #19
hOW WOULD WE KNOW? They could be without announcing it to all and sundry bravenak Aug 2016 #82
This message was self-deleted by its author G_j Aug 2016 #83
How are they any different? bravenak Aug 2016 #85
+ a Zillion sheshe2 Aug 2016 #87
Is it not telling how many traits they share with the gop? bravenak Aug 2016 #88
May they find the peace they seek. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #89
AMEN! bravenak Aug 2016 #90
hallelujah, sistah! sheshe2 Aug 2016 #91
Nailed it. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #97
"Finish him!" MK-style -eom- BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #102
Haven't many said much of the same things about DU? aikoaiko Aug 2016 #106
I do not see our admins condoning any of that. bravenak Aug 2016 #108
Sometimes they ban them. Sometimes they don't. That is a common complaint I've heard on DU. aikoaiko Aug 2016 #109
The difference in degree is very startling bravenak Aug 2016 #116
Much of that was resolved with the migration. Bobbie Jo Aug 2016 #115
Yep bravenak Aug 2016 #117
- have been known to espouse theories from Infowars and other similar wingnut CT whackos Dem2 Aug 2016 #122
you seem defensive Bobbie Jo Aug 2016 #20
Definitely defensive Cary Aug 2016 #34
I don't make posts pontificating about G_j Aug 2016 #86
In that case, the people who post at JPR must not be "actual left." yardwork Aug 2016 #23
You seem obsessed with defending the far-left crazies. Why is that? DanTex Aug 2016 #25
JPRer doth protest too much? BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #101
Ha ha! It's like SHARTs GONE WILD over there! Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #21
SHARTS GONE WILD! KMOD Aug 2016 #22
I know, right? Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #40
I think that SHART is an actual member there. yardwork Aug 2016 #24
Oh, I know. :-) Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #37
This is great! mcar Aug 2016 #44
Any souvenir wet T-shirts? ;-P NurseJackie Aug 2016 #95
No, but I'm thinking about gifting SHART a bald cap! Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #100
LOL! You slay me! NurseJackie Aug 2016 #149
must be recess at DU.... mike_c Aug 2016 #26
I felt that that here. ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #27
Oh please, KMOD Aug 2016 #30
Thank you for that... Bobbie Jo Aug 2016 #32
You nailed it. jalan48 Aug 2016 #33
Not taking responsibility is a hallmark Cary Aug 2016 #35
To me, "mean kids" are people who photoshop the First Lady yardwork Aug 2016 #36
What is being discussed here NanceGreggs Aug 2016 #45
Well expressed (and in an adult manner). Hortensis Aug 2016 #120
Well said Dem2 Aug 2016 #123
The mean kids found their own sandbox and proved just where all that playground belligerance synergie Aug 2016 #79
From the side who attacked HRC personally during the primary... BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #103
"must be recess at DU...." NCTraveler Aug 2016 #137
Yet oddly enough, you also have trivialized yourself to discussing mere people rather than events LanternWaste Aug 2016 #155
Exposing themselves to be exactly what many DUers thought throughout the primaries - disruptors! George II Aug 2016 #38
Even before the primaries Andy823 Aug 2016 #55
You're probably right, but I don't recall some of the names from back then who were... George II Aug 2016 #65
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #41
survey says KMOD Aug 2016 #47
There are a large group around here that hate the left cpwm17 Aug 2016 #51
The people there are not the left. KMOD Aug 2016 #56
I am "the left." Strong, liberal left. I don't hate, I am disturbed Hortensis Aug 2016 #73
Agree with me on everything, or else! Dem2 Aug 2016 #125
There are some here who are to 'pure' to actually work for important stuff that Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #158
To me the radical left are those out in the weeds... Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #49
There are many issues that we should be concerned with. cpwm17 Aug 2016 #52
When the whatever you want to call them ...alt left? Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #110
+ a brazillion. Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #138
Ouch. ;p synergie Aug 2016 #144
... NanceGreggs Aug 2016 #60
Ah, yes ... NanceGreggs Aug 2016 #54
I didn't say anything about the average Democrat supporting the bombing of brown people. cpwm17 Aug 2016 #63
Ah, no. NanceGreggs Aug 2016 #71
Nance, my goal in life Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #74
Mine too. nt Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #156
I'm afraid I disagree. The right wing of our party Hortensis Aug 2016 #93
I believe there is a difference ... NanceGreggs Aug 2016 #94
Well, don't forget that the parties were once heavily Hortensis Aug 2016 #96
This is the holier-than-thou attitude that keeps you a minority... BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #105
Great post...and so true. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #157
Thank you Nancy! Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #111
Important point here: "It's become a clear identifier of the type Hortensis Aug 2016 #119
K&R mcar Aug 2016 #43
I AM the Radical Left. liberalnarb Aug 2016 #46
I have no idea. KMOD Aug 2016 #48
If you support sanity...you are not the radical left Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #50
Forget Stein. I don't have to support her to be Radical. liberalnarb Aug 2016 #53
Well, cons have joined with others to create a Hortensis Aug 2016 #121
When you use the term "radical left" you are AwareOne Aug 2016 #57
around here things have changed since 2001. Hiraeth Aug 2016 #58
lol KMOD Aug 2016 #62
bfd Hiraeth Aug 2016 #64
It apparently is, KMOD Aug 2016 #66
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #67
I'm just drawing attention to KMOD Aug 2016 #69
Yes you can? What sort of person would do nothing to stop Trump who would be the Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #113
Snort! sheshe2 Aug 2016 #84
I know, right? NurseJackie Aug 2016 #99
You plan to vote for Stein? Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #112
OMG, seriously? NurseJackie Aug 2016 #98
Is that because there are sooooo many more ratfkcers and not-so-undercover CONS spreading hate here? synergie Aug 2016 #81
The people I'm referring to, opening cheer idiots like O'Reilly. KMOD Aug 2016 #61
K&R FOR TRUTH! eom MohRokTah Aug 2016 #59
Let me state as an avowed socialist, a member of the radical left, that JPR is not all that leftist. DemocraticWing Aug 2016 #68
You are the epitome of the Senator Sanders supporters KMOD Aug 2016 #70
IOW Cary Aug 2016 #75
Thanks for the good sense input, DemocraticWing. Hortensis Aug 2016 #124
Agreed Dem2 Aug 2016 #126
I don't see them as radicals, I see them as losers. grossproffit Aug 2016 #76
The JPR site is for conspiracy nutcases Gothmog Aug 2016 #77
I am so glad they are gone. DU is again becoming a place that I can recommend to fellow Democrats stevenleser Aug 2016 #78
THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY THE EXACT SAME AS THE ALT RIGHT bravenak Aug 2016 #80
JPR is like the island of misfits. nt Jamaal510 Aug 2016 #92
I disagree -- most are extreme Right Wingnuts obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #104
I check out JPR...every once in a while Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #114
Why do they refer to Hillary as 'her?' Scurrilous Aug 2016 #118
isn't this just still fighting the primaries? Kali Aug 2016 #127
Yes zipplewrath Aug 2016 #128
and I probably have made the mistake of reading the latest page again Kali Aug 2016 #129
The thread is discussing folks who call themselves progressive KMOD Aug 2016 #131
huh, Kali Aug 2016 #139
If people are actively attempting to KMOD Aug 2016 #146
Perhaps this will clear it up for you. KMOD Aug 2016 #166
I am not sure how useful obsessing about other websites is Kali Aug 2016 #169
The Jim Jones radical website is a right wing conspiracy site. It's fair game. grossproffit Aug 2016 #140
Yes it absolutely is melman Aug 2016 #132
If they're supporting anyone but Clinton at this point it's not a primary fight. ucrdem Aug 2016 #135
All the good DUers Andy823 Aug 2016 #136
JPR is a Milo Yiannopoulos outpost of poutrage, nothing more Tarc Aug 2016 #130
They caused an awful lot of unhappiness when they were here ucrdem Aug 2016 #133
Today my definition of the radical left is really simple. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #134
Some JPR posters are claiming that Bernie won the roll call vote Gothmog Aug 2016 #142
Leftbart. They love consipiracy theories. KMOD Aug 2016 #145
I was at the convention Gothmog Aug 2016 #148
I saw that post. Many JPR posters are extremely gullible. A new term for me - selective exposure - seaglass Aug 2016 #150
There is a rather ignorant video about this supposed second roll call Gothmog Aug 2016 #153
That is not even the worst. They think someone from the Hillary team beat up Bernie the night seaglass Aug 2016 #154
I really believe that these idiots think that Clinton personally beat up Sanders before the vote Gothmog Aug 2016 #160
hahahaha KMOD Aug 2016 #165
They're cray-cray! The whole lot of them! NurseJackie Aug 2016 #152
Agreed Gothmog Aug 2016 #162
Still obsessed with them? LMAO Arazi Aug 2016 #143
Supporting trump is not funny. KMOD Aug 2016 #147
Trying to elect Trump or pushing conspiracy theories that have no basis in reality is not funny Gothmog Aug 2016 #164
My so called progressive friends on facebook Lunabell Aug 2016 #151
They are not progressive I agree. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #159
The Radical Left! The Radical Left! jalan48 Aug 2016 #161
BTW, I love laughing at the election law threads on that board Gothmog Aug 2016 #163
kick & highly recommended! William769 Aug 2016 #170
 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
2. True.
Sat Aug 27, 2016, 11:49 PM
Aug 2016

But I'm damn sick and tired of the few that still try to sneak in here and try to redefine what being progressive and liberal means to life long progressive and liberal democrats.

Those people never had a progressive or liberal bone in their body.

They're assholes. And they have no business coming on this board pretending they're the new thing. Let them form their own party. Their views and their attitudes suck.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
167. For that matter, who are YOU to define what being progressive or liberal means?
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 02:15 AM
Aug 2016

And why are you so obsessed with a tiny, irrelevant site that has no effect on politics at all?

Do you really think badgering people like this is going to win them over to our ticket?

The OP is a textbook example of McCarthyism...and nothing Joe McCarthy or HUAC would do could ever be consistent with any notion of progressive politics.

 

forjusticethunders

(1,151 posts)
4. Unfortunately as long as they identify as "left"
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 12:01 AM
Aug 2016

we'll have to deal with them.

Though I think they'll mostly bail within the next 5 years and become libertarians or alt-righters as their economic beliefs give way to their deep-seated anger at people who aren't cis, white and male trying to have power and influence in society.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. No, many are left, far left, even though the owner is
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 12:11 PM
Aug 2016

apparently a conservative of some type (haven't paid enough attention to have any idea what flavor) and trying to push the site back in that direction.

In any case, the site drew a bunch of left-wing radicals who'd supported Bernie and they're still entrenched there. Very, very DIFFERENT from liberals and mainstream Democrats, whom they reject and despise.

George II

(67,782 posts)
39. There's a certain number of people in society - left, right, center - who will find something....
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 04:01 PM
Aug 2016

....to complain about no matter close it might be to their positions.

padfun

(1,745 posts)
6. What is JPR?
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 01:18 AM
Aug 2016

A google search shows mostly "Jefferson Public Radio" but I don't think that is what you mean.

Hekate

(87,952 posts)
7. psst
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 02:27 AM
Aug 2016

Jackpine Radicals, named for a former DUer who has now passed on. Some of us wonder if he would have approved of what has being created in his name.

padfun

(1,745 posts)
31. Thanks for the name
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 03:10 PM
Aug 2016

Interesting perspective.

I was a Bernie supported but I was for Hillary before that. So it was easy for me to get back behind her. Not so for many of them there.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. A mix of a small number of earnest people who
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 12:39 PM
Aug 2016

strongly disapprove of Democrats but can produce rational and thoughtful posts mixed with a much larger number of those those who seemingly cannot. If you want the latest theory on how Hillary's blackmailing/forcing Bernie into supporting her, discussions of the people she's murdered to get this far, excited claims that she's about to be arrested and Bernie's going to be president after all, or the number of wars she will start and the atrocities she will perform when she's president, that's your site.

padfun

(1,745 posts)
28. wow, that is an interesting site
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 03:08 PM
Aug 2016

They are all over the place between rational thought and Alex Jones. They do seem to have a disturbing sense of dislike of Hillary in much the same way that RedState.com has it out for Trump.

Response to Hortensis (Reply #14)

Response to orpupilofnature57 (Reply #42)

DFW

(53,081 posts)
8. The time I went there, I didn't see much of that
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 03:08 AM
Aug 2016

It seemed to be mostly hate posts on Hillary, some on Obama, and not much else. I didn't spend a whole lot of time there, really. I took a look, saw it was not for me, and left. If I find myself in desperate need of an argument, I'll just walk into the nearest church on a Sunday.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
10. I've learned they are idiots out and open ratfucker idiots just like alt-right idiots.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 04:12 AM
Aug 2016

Interesting. Oh, yeah. Interesting.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
11. When hatred of Hillary/Barack is one's obsession, it is difficult to distinguish one from the alt
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 06:29 AM
Aug 2016

right. Particularly when one expresses a preference for Donald (in many posts there) and posts all the right wing conspiracy theories about Hillary.

ismnotwasm

(41,732 posts)
13. I don't think they are the true radical left--well some of them are
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 12:28 PM
Aug 2016

I think they are the dregs, if you know what I mean, the chronic do-nothing complainers, the ego-driven "I am different from the rest" types, the scammers, the misogynists, the aggrieved white folk hiding from their inner racist, as well as the ones who are, shall we say, a few tomatoes short of a good thick sauce.

And I agree, the real leftists could come back if they wish--the rest--well they've found their home and I hope they stay there.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
15. It's the horseshoe theory in action.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 12:45 PM
Aug 2016

On one "side" there's the Alex Joneses and on the other there's the HA Goodmans. But really there's not so much difference, both are conspiracy theory nutjobs.

And both want Trump to be president.

Response to KMOD (Original post)

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
18. Ugh! I hope you aren't a member of that forum G_j
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 01:29 PM
Aug 2016

Yes, that site is filled with people who want to call women wh*res, and the nasty "c" word, it's filled with people who believe that black people and LGBT people have Stockholm Syndrome, and it's filled with people who think the Black Lives Matter movement is racist.

If you want to defend that shit, go for it. But it makes me sick that these people think they are left. They are not left, and they are just as sick as right wingers.

G_j

(40,364 posts)
19. False equivalence
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 01:42 PM
Aug 2016

Are they forming armed militias, stockpiling weapons, humping guns outside of NAACP offices and political rallies, are they threatening the life of the President?
Do they bomb abortion clinics, murder doctors, burn crosses?



Response to bravenak (Reply #82)

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
85. How are they any different?
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 11:30 PM
Aug 2016

Blatant racism towards black led movements? Check!
Nasty slurs being used towards women like cunt and whore? Check!
Inability to compromise? Check!
Willing to burn this nation to the ground by allowing Trump to destroy minorities and freedom and allowing him to have access to nukes? check!
Hatred towards Clinton, Obama, and most other Democrats? Check!

Sounds EXACTLY LIKE the alt right to me.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
88. Is it not telling how many traits they share with the gop?
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 11:45 PM
Aug 2016


glad they found a place to be, without us.

aikoaiko

(33,931 posts)
106. Haven't many said much of the same things about DU?
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 07:37 AM
Aug 2016


Blatant racism towards black led movements? Check!
Nasty slurs being used towards women like cunt and whore? Check!
Inability to compromise? Check!
Willing to burn this nation to the ground by allowing Trump to destroy minorities and freedom and allowing him to have access to nukes? check!
Hatred towards Clinton, Obama, and most other Democrats? Check!



 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
108. I do not see our admins condoning any of that.
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 08:06 AM
Aug 2016

Those things I list are approved of and endorsed by THEIR ADMINS. Ours ban people for that behaiviour. See?

aikoaiko

(33,931 posts)
109. Sometimes they ban them. Sometimes they don't. That is a common complaint I've heard on DU.
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 08:24 AM
Aug 2016

But I'm not obtuse (at least on this issue) and I see your and KMOD's point.

Hopefully you see mine as well that many of these issues for which some condemn JPR have been documented here at DU which makes it a matter of degree and not kind. See?

Dem2

(8,164 posts)
122. - have been known to espouse theories from Infowars and other similar wingnut CT whackos
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 10:24 AM
Aug 2016

Nothing has changed for over a decade with these folks, just the fake IDs and pretend "progressive" credentials

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
20. you seem defensive
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 01:43 PM
Aug 2016

One more time...

We've seen these people in action. Defending this nonsense, ad nauseum, does not make it righteous or principled. These people don't resemble the "actual left" in any way, shape, or form.

The hate, and yes, bigotry have been on display for all to see. The only reason this continues to be an issue is because some of these people are STILL here, patting themselves on the back.

Defending this garbage is an insult to anyone who can read. But by all means, carry on...

G_j

(40,364 posts)
86. I don't make posts pontificating about
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 11:36 PM
Aug 2016

Last edited Mon Aug 29, 2016, 01:32 AM - Edit history (2)

how this (mythical, IMO) "fringe" of "radical" left is the same as the radical right. Sorry to point out what would appear to be an obsession with another
web forum. Incidentally, I have never posted there, and have spent all together maybe 15 or 20 minutes there, though the people going on about that place have obviously spent a lot of time there.
I am not defending some web forum. I'm disputing the OP's use of the English language, and the false equivalencies between right and left. That is a tradition perfected by FAUX News. It's always been recognized as cheap propaganda when they do it, so...?

yardwork

(59,503 posts)
23. In that case, the people who post at JPR must not be "actual left."
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 02:30 PM
Aug 2016

They insist they are, but their posts are mostly indistinguishable from posts on FreeRepublic or Alex Jones's website.

There are several there who still post here, too. They are the authors here of concern threads about Hillary and the Democrats. There, they post vile statements and photoshopped images that are truly stomach turning.

It's been eye-opening, to say the least.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
25. You seem obsessed with defending the far-left crazies. Why is that?
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 02:37 PM
Aug 2016

Maybe people like HA Goodman or the idiots at JPR aren't the "actual left", but only in the sense that their counterparts on the right like Alex Jones aren't the "actual right."

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
101. JPRer doth protest too much?
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 06:04 AM
Aug 2016

You have to ignore a LOT of hard evidence about the fringe left's behavior here during the primary to make that ridiculous claim of yours. They didn't revamp the entire Terms of Service and jury system on a whim. It was directly related to the hateful behavior of "some" die-hard leftists.

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Maru Kitteh

(28,094 posts)
21. Ha ha! It's like SHARTs GONE WILD over there!
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 01:58 PM
Aug 2016


SHARTS GONE WILD! - They once roamed the halls of DU, but at night, they were tooooooooo naughty! . . . . so they were kicked out.

SHARTS GONE WILD! - Turned away from every respectable corner of the internet, these SHARTs were all horny for hate, with nowhere to go . . . . .

SHARTS GONE WILD! - Come see what happens when these naughty naughty SHARTs make a home of their own at JPR! See them getting dirty with right-wing sources and conspiracy theories! Watch as they bend into every imaginable position and just keep giving it! You will see, up close, HATEGASM after mind-blowing HATEGASM!

SHARTS GONE WILD! Available now for a very limited time at the low, low price of a few minutes of your time and their long-lost dignity!

mike_c

(35,987 posts)
26. must be recess at DU....
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 02:48 PM
Aug 2016

The mean kids are all out on the playground looking for someone to treat like shit.

Eleanor Roosevelt-- a radical leftest I much admire-- said it most succinctly:

"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."

I now return you to your regularly scheduled playground belligerence.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
30. Oh please,
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 03:09 PM
Aug 2016

Eleanor Roosevelt would not approve of that mess.

In fact, I imagine she would be strongly supporting Hillary Clinton for President.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
32. Thank you for that...
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 03:16 PM
Aug 2016

"must be recess at DU...."

"The mean kids are all out on the playground looking for someone to treat like shit."


"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."


It's a good thing you weren't discussing people here, because that would be....ironic.


Cary

(11,743 posts)
35. Not taking responsibility is a hallmark
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 03:33 PM
Aug 2016

As is a sense of entitlement. What do you imagine that your "non-mean kids" have done to earn respect?

yardwork

(59,503 posts)
36. To me, "mean kids" are people who photoshop the First Lady
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 03:43 PM
Aug 2016

to make it look as if she was incontinent. ymmv.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
45. What is being discussed here
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 05:14 PM
Aug 2016

… is not people themselves, but what those people have expressed via their postings on JPR.

Of course, certain conclusions can be drawn about people who believe every ridiculous conspiracy theory they hear, constantly whine about being persecuted, and engage in mindless discussions about how nefarious factions “stole” the election from Bernie, how he was physically assaulted and his family threatened in order to force him to endorse HRC, and how many people the Clintons have literally had murdered over the course of their careers.

Most JPR posters are self-declared True Progressives ™, and yet spout RW talking points on a regular basis. They claim to be the only people who want things like universal healthcare, free college education, fairer voting procedures – while ignoring the fact that Democrats have worked towards such goals for decades.

Opining on what is discussed on other political websites is nothing new here. FreeRepublic doesn’t get a pass. So why should JPR – especially when so many of their views are extremely right-wing, and identical to those expressed in Freeperville?

It's rather ironic to have this discussion thread cast as "playground belligerence", when the website being discussed is full of perpetually pissed-off paranoids who think posting photoshopped pics of HRC with a shit stain on her skirt is the very height of mature political discourse.



 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
79. The mean kids found their own sandbox and proved just where all that playground belligerance
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 10:44 PM
Aug 2016

was actually coming from, it's sad that those not so great minds and their admirers so abjectly fail to meet Eleanor's standards of a great mind, average or even small minds.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
103. From the side who attacked HRC personally during the primary...
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 06:09 AM
Aug 2016

that quote doesn't mean what you think it means. Really, it's just you announcing how much you rely on projection as a mental defense from your own words and actions.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
137. "must be recess at DU...."
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 01:22 PM
Aug 2016

"Eleanor Roosevelt-- a radical leftest I much admire-- said it most succinctly: "

"I now return you to your regularly scheduled playground belligerence. "

"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."

Love it when someone makes a point about talking about others..... All while talking about others.


 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
155. Yet oddly enough, you also have trivialized yourself to discussing mere people rather than events
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 08:35 AM
Aug 2016

Yet oddly enough, you also have trivialized yourself to discussing mere people rather than events on this thread. I suppose this thread of simply small minds welcomes you in kind.

Though I'm quite certain you'll rationalize a wonderful distinction lacking any relevant difference to better hold others to a higher standard than you hold yourself to...

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
55. Even before the primaries
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 05:41 PM
Aug 2016

Many of them where here posting their hate towards president Obama, any Democratic politician that they did not agree with, and pretty much the whole Democratic party. They went berserk during the primaries, and decided to open shop on their own little hate site. Now they have shown their true nature with their hate and promoting of Trump over Hillary. Sadly they still come here with their "concerns", and to rec up those "concerned" threads.

George II

(67,782 posts)
65. You're probably right, but I don't recall some of the names from back then who were...
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 06:26 PM
Aug 2016

...still around. Actually, shortly after Obama was elected and those people jumped all over him, I left for over a year - couldn't take the instant abuse that began just days after the inauguration. I remember one thing that pushed me close to the edge (only to go over after that) was about two weeks after January 20, 2009 a couple of people here started whining that Obama hadn't fulfilled any of his campaign promises - after TWO WEEKS!

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cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
51. There are a large group around here that hate the left
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 05:26 PM
Aug 2016

and can only muster blank stares when confronted the evils of war:

Their priorities are way off.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
56. The people there are not the left.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 05:41 PM
Aug 2016

They are not progressive and they are not liberal.

Leftbart. That's what someone aptly named them here.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
73. I am "the left." Strong, liberal left. I don't hate, I am disturbed
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 07:56 PM
Aug 2016

and worried by what I see in those with extremist attitudes, both right and left. I may vary between sympathy for those who are actually "living" in a dreadful conspiracy world, humor at the absurdity of some of the conspiracies, and disgust for the larger number who live to villify and plot the ruin of political opponents with malicious lies, but under it all is my horrified awareness of what can happen when people manage to put extremist leaders into power.

Dem2

(8,164 posts)
125. Agree with me on everything, or else!
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 10:30 AM
Aug 2016

I'll call you names and insult your intelligence!

Very "progressive" indeed.

Demsrule86

(67,494 posts)
158. There are some here who are to 'pure' to actually work for important stuff that
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 09:17 AM
Aug 2016

might actually stop the bombing of brown people. I would also like to point out that if we left abruply ...Brown people would be slaughtered by others in the area and maybe more would die. It is much easier to get into a war than out of a war...and thousands perhaps millions could die depending on how we wind down the wars...one thing many on the so called alt left share with the far right is a simplistic view of foreign policy. This is how Bush got us into war.

Demsrule86

(67,494 posts)
49. To me the radical left are those out in the weeds...
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 05:21 PM
Aug 2016

who are all about one issue or the other and never accomplish anything. I am totally against all war...but should I show displeasure (I don't what he could do anyway) towards Obama who inherited the war by allowing the right to win? They will not only continue the wars but start new wars and work really hard to starve the poor, take away choice, take away all social programs etc...thus I don't have a purity test...and I always vote for Democrats who while not perfect are always the best choice...those who claim the parties are the same ARE the radical left and completely wrong about everything and really indistinguishable from the alt right or the far right or even the right because in the end they help enact right wing policy...think the Greens in 2000 and United and the other terrible shit inflicted upon this country.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
52. There are many issues that we should be concerned with.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 05:32 PM
Aug 2016

In the list of priorities though, not deliberately severely harming your fellow human beings should be at the very top. We shouldn't play the part of the bad guys.

Demsrule86

(67,494 posts)
110. When the whatever you want to call them ...alt left?
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 08:37 AM
Aug 2016

helps elect Republicans, they harm their fellow human beings. How many people literally died under Bush...while Sarandon was dong just fine. My neighbor hung himself in his garage during the fall of 2008 and I understood why...heck hubs and I considered driving off a bridge to get insurance money for our kids. Those folks helped give us Bush who surely caused the economic meltdown. You can be concerned over issues...I am and fight for change...I do that. But when you equate a Democrat and a Republican presidential candidate ( or any candidate really state or national)...you only do harm to the people and to the country. Not content with almost destroying the country in 00 and 04, they next helped derail Obama's presidency by sustained (unfair in my view) criticism...the result? A Republican House in 2010 which we have lived with for six years...not a bit of progressive policy after this fiasco. So excuse me if I think that maybe these folks are GOP enablers and not really on our side.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
54. Ah, yes ...
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 05:40 PM
Aug 2016

The baseless notion that mainstream Democrats are in favour of such things, and only the "radical left" are opposed.

It's become a clear identifier of the type of "radical left" being discussed here: the claim that they, and only they, are against war, unfair voting procedures, police brutality, for-profit prisons, price-gouging by drug companies, low wages for the working-class - the list goes on.

It's tiresome, and has no basis in fact. But the self-proclaimed "radical left" are prone to believing they are being persecuted for their loftier-then-thou convictions by the people who actually have the same ideals.

If you honestly believe that the average Democrat thinks "bombing brown people for fun and profit is appropriate behavior", it is apparent that you don't know very much at all.





 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
63. I didn't say anything about the average Democrat supporting the bombing of brown people.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 06:07 PM
Aug 2016

The right-wing of the party does, or are at least indifferent to such crimes. "The radical left" is being used as a pejorative by the right-wing against many of those that support sane government.

Of course there are always going to be various kooks across the political spectrum, including those that support baseless conspiracies.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
71. Ah, no.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 07:31 PM
Aug 2016

What you implied was that those who don't support the bombing of brown people are "the radical left", and that they are vilified for doing so.

Take a look at what gets posted on JPR - and then tell me about who the "right wing of the Party" really is.

Here's a hint: They're the people claiming to be anti-war, while saying that a Trump presidency would be better than a Clinton presidency - that's the same Trump who wants to know why we can't use nukes on people we don't like. They're the people claiming to be concerned about "brown people", who think Trump instituting his "deport all the brown people" policies are preferable to Hillary being POTUS. They're the people who think Limbaugh may be a nutcase, but he actually makes some valid points.

Above all, they're the people who claimed to be the "real" Democrats, until Bernie lost the nomination - at which point the Democratic Party and its members were all declared corrupt, lying sell-outs simply because they chose Hillary over Bernie as their nominee.

If you're looking for the "right wing of the Party", you'll find a bunch of them at JPR. Many of them used to post here, and were obvious as RWers all along. They're just carrying on that pretense on another site.

Maru Kitteh

(28,094 posts)
74. Nance, my goal in life
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 08:07 PM
Aug 2016

is to express myself with just a fraction of the grace and truly devastating effectiveness you show here.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
93. I'm afraid I disagree. The right wing of our party
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 03:34 AM
Aug 2016

is mainly just normal conservatives of various stripes, whatever those are today. That other forum's off-the-edgers no doubt include some conservatives, but generally speaking most of our party's 17-20% of conservatives are not irrational CT extremists.

Some of them are, of course, active members right here of DU. A few DUers self identify as conservative, others can be inferred as at least somewhat conservative by their statements on various issues.

Btw, interestingly, people generally form positions from various parts of the ideological spectrum. Our political orientations are overall averages of those positions. It'd be a rare person here who didn't have at least a few positions that would be considered conservative.

Even more, I think it was Pew where I read that it is normal for a person to have in their grab bag at least one opinion that would be considered outside the norm--on the far side from their overall orientation. My words, don't remember the article's exactly. Nothing jumped to mind for what far right position on what issue I might agree with, but maybe someday in chat with our rural South neighbors I'll finally find myself happily agreeing with them.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
94. I believe there is a difference ...
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 03:56 AM
Aug 2016

... between being a conservative Democrat and being a right-winger.

If there was no difference, there would be no such thing as a "conservative Democrat" - they'd all be Republicans.

People tend to identify with the core values of a party. Those who identify as Democrats, despite conservative leanings on any number of issues, do so because they share those core values.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
96. Well, don't forget that the parties were once heavily
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 04:26 AM
Aug 2016

mixed ideologically, allegiances often strongly influenced by geographic factors that were very strong long ago. There's been a strong sifting out to liberal left and conservative right, but it's still not over and probably best that it never be. I do wonder if the sifting has left more moderate conservatives than the national average. After all, wouldn't you think the ones who leave with each election would tend to be the more strongly outraged?

And that 17-20% of Democrats are conservative and, according to Pew a few weeks ago, 91% of Democrats support Clinton seems to show you're right that, this election at least, some conservatives are supporting the Democratic presidential candidate. And rejecting the other.

However, studies show that conservative Democrats normally vote very consistently for the Republican presidential candidate. They tend to vote Democrat downballot, yes, but that's because in the districts where most live the Democratic candidates are also conservatives running on conservative values.

Exit polls this year revealed that large numbers conservative Democrats who voted for one of the candidates in the primary specifically planned to vote against the Democratic nominee, no matter who that was, in the general election.

So, bottom line is that WE as a party include conservatives/right wingers and that for them being a Democrat does not mean they are part of the liberal majority. Of course, the various groups that make up the Democratic Party all tend to have what they consider their own core values.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
105. This is the holier-than-thou attitude that keeps you a minority...
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 07:20 AM
Aug 2016

...even amongst other liberals. I hope all that purity is enough to make up for your collective electoral uselessness. Forget building a third party and get to work on a log cabin, because you're going to be stuck in the political wilderness until you learn how to work well with people who don't think exactly like you do.

As a message intended to attract support, "You all suck and I'm perfect" isn't quite the "draw" you seem to think it is.

Demsrule86

(67,494 posts)
111. Thank you Nancy!
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 08:45 AM
Aug 2016

I hate all war but would not elect any Republican becaause of it. I also do not blame the Dems for that which the GOP has done another 'radical left' trait (for want of a better word). Nor do I believe a president is all powerful and can (by magic?) make every progressive dream come true if only he would try...we need to work hard to give him/her Congress...if you want a progressive president, elect a Democratic Congress!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
119. Important point here: "It's become a clear identifier of the type
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 10:09 AM
Aug 2016

of "radical left" being discussed here: the claim that they, and only they, are against war, unfair voting procedures, police brutality, for-profit prisons, price-gouging by drug companies, low wages for the working-class - the list goes on."

This is one of the basic characteristics that can be used to identify people prone to radical or reactionary/extremist behaviors. Extreme righteousness is typical of both far right and far left, and to maintain it they must see themselves as the only righteous ones. To do that, of course, see above.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
46. I AM the Radical Left.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 05:14 PM
Aug 2016

And I support Hillary Clinton for President. I opened a JPR account back during the primaries, I don't use it anymore. Is there a way to delete it?

Demsrule86

(67,494 posts)
50. If you support sanity...you are not the radical left
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 05:23 PM
Aug 2016

You and I are the practical radical left...we want to see progressive policy enacted...do you really think Jill Stein gives a damn about policy? No....she doesn't.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
53. Forget Stein. I don't have to support her to be Radical.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 05:38 PM
Aug 2016

I know many consider "Radical" to have a negative connotation, but I believe it's the radicals that bring about change. Never once has good change come out of a CONservative.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
121. Well, cons have joined with others to create a
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 10:23 AM
Aug 2016

great deal of good change. The New Deal and Great Society, for instance, would not have happened without the contribution of some probably typically moderate conservatives who decided we needed progressive solutions to some huge problems.

I agree "radical" is given a bad name it doesn't entirely deserve by extremist behaviors. We really need a good word for people who are not extremist but endorse radical change. I'm a strong liberal who would fit that description--when I thought it was achievable, but good luck finding a sensible radical group that keeps out the kind of people who insist I support atrocities and who have trouble cooperating enough to agree on what pizza to order.

I did locate and want to check out a closed forum that I thought might be promising, even if certainly farther left overall than I am, but they declined to have me. Can't imagine why.

 

AwareOne

(404 posts)
57. When you use the term "radical left" you are
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 05:45 PM
Aug 2016

Helping to spread right wing propaganda. There is no radical left in this country except in the minds of Bill O'Reilly et all. You want to see radical left, go to France and watch the left shut down the highways, seaports etc.. When was the last time that happened here? Not your lifetime probably. People with zero power who have opinions left of your third way, corporate Republican light does not constitute a radical left.

Response to KMOD (Reply #66)

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
69. I'm just drawing attention to
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 06:52 PM
Aug 2016

ratfuckers. There is way too much at stake in this election. People's lives and civil rights are at stake. I have no patience for anyone who is pumping up trump.

I will have a nice evening. I can sleep soundly at night, knowing that I am not an asshole, and I am doing everything I can to make this world a safer, more loving and caring, and more fair place for my future grandchildren.

Demsrule86

(67,494 posts)
113. Yes you can? What sort of person would do nothing to stop Trump who would be the
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 08:50 AM
Aug 2016

worst worst person as president?

Demsrule86

(67,494 posts)
112. You plan to vote for Stein?
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 08:49 AM
Aug 2016

This is Democratic Underground not Green Underground. See...voting for Stein helps Republicans.

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
81. Is that because there are sooooo many more ratfkcers and not-so-undercover CONS spreading hate here?
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 10:45 PM
Aug 2016
 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
61. The people I'm referring to, opening cheer idiots like O'Reilly.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 06:01 PM
Aug 2016

They believe they are progressives, yet they are hell bent on getting trump elected to punish the Democratic Party. They get their news from sources like RT and Breitbart.

And then they have the nerve to call people who have actually worked for and accomplished progressive policies, third way corporate Republican light. Effin idiots. All of 'em. Selfish asses who live in a bubble.

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
68. Let me state as an avowed socialist, a member of the radical left, that JPR is not all that leftist.
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 06:47 PM
Aug 2016

These are people more concerned with the mundane personality conflicts of the political system than a serious critique of capitalism. The vast majority of us who were for Bernie did so for ideological reasons, but some of our "fellow travelers" were just there because they hate the powers-that-be. And there's a place for that, I think we've got a messed up political economy and the Democrats share in that blame. But you have to look beyond that and think strategically to do anything politically, and the JPR folks just don't cut it.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
124. Thanks for the good sense input, DemocraticWing.
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 10:29 AM
Aug 2016

I have real sympathy for people farther left who are being confused with populist acting out against some amorphous "establishment." Same thing happens to rational liberals. There is enormous difference between those groups who can and those groups who can't "cut it."

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
78. I am so glad they are gone. DU is again becoming a place that I can recommend to fellow Democrats
Sun Aug 28, 2016, 10:39 PM
Aug 2016

as a place to join and discuss issues of import to Democrats and Liberals and Progressives.

obamanut2012

(25,486 posts)
104. I disagree -- most are extreme Right Wingnuts
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 06:38 AM
Aug 2016

And, obviously were when they were here, pretending to be far lefties. They pretended badly, to most of us.

Demsrule86

(67,494 posts)
114. I check out JPR...every once in a while
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 08:54 AM
Aug 2016

some who post 'concern posts' are there and are not planning to vote for Hillary...they use their own names in fact.

Kali

(54,783 posts)
127. isn't this just still fighting the primaries?
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 10:43 AM
Aug 2016

I haven't looked at that site in a while but there were some good DUers over there, this seems a little bitter and unnecessary. there were some nasty people saying nasty things at the pro-Hillary site too. I thought we were supposed to move on.

Kali

(54,783 posts)
129. and I probably have made the mistake of reading the latest page again
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 11:12 AM
Aug 2016

so much nasty in this thread. I would rather make fun of drumpf than other progressives for whatever reason. might need them to vote for things, ya know?

back to the Lounge for me!

Kali

(54,783 posts)
139. huh,
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 01:54 PM
Aug 2016

seemed more like lumping a whole lotta folks into one pile-on of some other website to me.

and since a number of them are members here too it makes a handy way to broadbrush attack and and name-call while technically staying within the new rules. it just comes across as ugly and ineffective to me.

don't get me wrong, I am sure it is going on over there too, but I don't go there and it just seems to me there are much better targets for scorn than other DUers or former members. I say this with the same attitude I had for the infighting that goes on DURING the primaries. I try not to look at (or FOR) the intentional ugliness exhibited from people I generally like and respect otherwise.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
146. If people are actively attempting to
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 09:35 PM
Aug 2016

elect trump, they are assholes.

Sorry, but I don't respect trump pumpers.

And if they are going to pump trump there, and then try to do so here, I will call them out, every time.

If you actually went there, I'm certain you would not be defending them.

Primary fighting is one thing, trying to tear down the entire Democratic Party by pumping up trump is another.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
166. Perhaps this will clear it up for you.
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 01:03 AM
Aug 2016
http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/what-do-you-plan-to-do-in-your-state-come-november/#post-156499

I'm sorry, but voting for trump is not something I take kindly too.

And as far as your knock on the Hillary site, Hillary is a Democrat. It was a place to promote and discuss Hillary since we were unable to do so here. It's nowhere near the same thing.

Kali

(54,783 posts)
169. I am not sure how useful obsessing about other websites is
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 05:19 PM
Aug 2016

but I am sorry, I just don't care about them. However, I do care about disparaging DUers in general. Especially ON DU. Admins have long taken a stance that what people post on other sites is not relevant here. I only used the example of the pro Hillary site as an illustration of ugly off-site behavior towards other DU members. You can justify that however you like.

In case you don't read ATA, here is a comment from Skinner that kind of echos my feeling. Coincidentally, it is in reference to your OP:

We have tried very hard to decrease the negativity here, and I think this place is much friendlier than it was a short time ago. But we can't make everyone be nice.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/125911635

ucrdem

(15,502 posts)
135. If they're supporting anyone but Clinton at this point it's not a primary fight.
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 01:19 PM
Aug 2016

So I think the thread is legit.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
136. All the good DUers
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 01:21 PM
Aug 2016

Have come to their senses, the only thing left over there are the ones who make claims they are the only true progressives, yet their post show that they are far from being "real" progressives. Real progressives would not say Trump is better than Clinton.

Tarc

(10,461 posts)
130. JPR is a Milo Yiannopoulos outpost of poutrage, nothing more
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 11:55 AM
Aug 2016

Perhaps separated by at most one or two policy positions from the alt-right.

ucrdem

(15,502 posts)
133. They caused an awful lot of unhappiness when they were here
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 01:15 PM
Aug 2016

which is why I'm glad they're doing their Hill-rage thing over there. That much I'll give them credit for.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
134. Today my definition of the radical left is really simple.
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 01:16 PM
Aug 2016

Liberal isolationists. And yes, most of the people at JPR fit the bill. They are some of the sickest out there.

Gothmog

(138,870 posts)
142. Some JPR posters are claiming that Bernie won the roll call vote
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 06:09 PM
Aug 2016

There is a bizarre thread claiming that Sanders won a roll call vote. I was at the convention and there was only one roll call vote. Clinton won that vote by a good number and then by acclamation by the motion of Sanders. I was in my seat for the entire convention on Tuesday and there was only one roll call vote.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
145. Leftbart. They love consipiracy theories.
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 09:28 PM
Aug 2016

So many of them are completely out of touch with reality.

Gothmog

(138,870 posts)
148. I was at the convention
Mon Aug 29, 2016, 10:53 PM
Aug 2016

There was only one roll call vote. The video posted was from an idiot who did not understand the convention procedures. The fact that so many JPR posters thought that this video was good is really sad. The California delegation may have done some sort of roll call vote at their breakfast meeting but the only vote that mattered was the vote on the floor of the convention

seaglass

(8,165 posts)
150. I saw that post. Many JPR posters are extremely gullible. A new term for me - selective exposure -
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 06:30 AM
Aug 2016

that seems to be the problem at JPR. I'm sure they'd say the same about DUers.

Gothmog

(138,870 posts)
153. There is a rather ignorant video about this supposed second roll call
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 07:30 AM
Aug 2016

It is really sad that these people believe this crap.

seaglass

(8,165 posts)
154. That is not even the worst. They think someone from the Hillary team beat up Bernie the night
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 07:51 AM
Aug 2016

before he endorsed her and that's why he did it. Completely around the bend.

Gothmog

(138,870 posts)
160. I really believe that these idiots think that Clinton personally beat up Sanders before the vote
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 10:56 AM
Aug 2016

These nutcases are crazy. There is no conspiracy theory that is too crazy for these idiots

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
165. hahahaha
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 01:21 PM
Aug 2016

Now there's a thread that implies Team Hillary beat up President Carter to get his endorsement. And one of them is dumbfounded about why the Democrats are working hard to keep tiny hands out of the White House.

Gothmog

(138,870 posts)
162. Agreed
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 01:08 PM
Aug 2016

The convention showed that most of the Sanders delegates had no idea as to how conventions worked. Most of the Sanders delegates figured it out and maybe 100 to 150 of the 1800 Sanders delegates ended up being Bernie or Bust types such as the one delegate in the video on that thread. I enjoyed watching the Clinton team at work during the convention and saw the work done to help convince the Sanders delegates to support the party. Again, for the most part the Sanders delegates ended up supporting the party and the convention was a major success in my opnion.

There was only one roll call vote at the convention that occurred on the floor of the convention. Clinton won that vote by over 1,000 votes and then Sanders showed some true grace and class by moving to accept Clinton by acclamation. The one delegate on these videos had no idea as to how the process worked and the fact that the JPR posters think that Sanders won the roll call vote is truly sad

Gothmog

(138,870 posts)
164. Trying to elect Trump or pushing conspiracy theories that have no basis in reality is not funny
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 01:14 PM
Aug 2016

A vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Trump.

Lunabell

(5,123 posts)
151. My so called progressive friends on facebook
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 06:36 AM
Aug 2016

post bullshit all the time. One alleged progresive put forth a meme about killing HRC. He was blocked. Reported to FB and to the secret service. Another used something from a trump site. Now how progressive were these two? Lmao

Gothmog

(138,870 posts)
163. BTW, I love laughing at the election law threads on that board
Tue Aug 30, 2016, 01:12 PM
Aug 2016

I seriously doubt that any of the posters on that board are lawyers or have a clue as to election law issues. Some of the threads on that board discussing election law cases are so bad that they are funny. Evidently a decent number of the posters on that board are plaintiffs in one of the silly lawsuits being discussed. The lack of understanding of legal concepts by the posters on that board is sad but funny

No one in the real legal world at taking any of the crazy lawsuits discussed on that board seriously and so it is fun reading about these amusing cases on that board.

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