What I Believe: Trump must be crushed. Not just beaten, broken.

That would be some interesting mind spew to read.

If things go the way they are currently trending, I could see the election being all but officially called for Hillary Clinton, before 11pm, eastern standard time.

I have this secret hope that someone, who is silently disaffected in his campaign, will secretly film him watching the returns and then release it. I also believe I won't bother waiting up for him to concede because that's going to be a struggle for him, and I don't really know if he's capable of admitting defeat.

Can the GOP concede, even if he doesn't?

When he loses the election, and if he gives a concession speech, I want to see it first-hand. It will be a unique moment in this jackass's life and will mark the beginning of the end of this sorry excuse of a human being. It will be a sight to behold.

I think it will be the second best part of this highly entertaining campaign season.

First best part: President Hillary Rodham Clinton

I can remember her strong defense of Hillary, when Hillary was Arkansas' First Lady. She taught me a lot about standing up for what is right.

She would be immensely proud.

She loved Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton. She was a strong smart woman...and is missed very much.

As I recall, I was up for most of the night of every General Election, since 2000. Sometimes a bad rush, sometimes a good one.
I always have that bottle of something bubbly ready for popping, and it seems a shame to re-cork any leftovers.

I just have the feeling that he is not going to go down without a fight, no matter how big the landslide may be.

He'd be ordering his supporters to storm the ballot places, steal the discs, do whatever is needed to throw out and disrupt the "stolen" (in his view) election. The question is will his staff or the RNC stop him from that foolishness or will this end in chaos?

He'll rant and rave about Crooked Hillary rigging the election, and he'll threaten to sue every state elections commission/secretary of state where he lost. He'll also threaten to sue leading members of the media - CNN, NY Times, Washington Post, etc. He'll sue Meredith McIver for plagiarizing Michelle Obama, Corey Lewandowski, Paul Manafort, Chris Christie, Marco Rubio, etc, etc.

Meanwhile, the country will move on while he's stamping his feet in a childish temper tantrum and his lawsuits will be laughed out of court.

The revolution from his followers will peter out from embarrassment when he gets 30% of the vote, and in 20 years, there will be nobody around that will actually admit to being a Trump voter.

all of his supporters will either be pushing up daisies or ensconced in a room at Happy Acres Retirement Home.

Maybe Hillary can send him a fake gold statuette. Because there are no losers anymore.

He will tweet it in.

with his adolescent temper and egotism. I think the networks will declare for Hillary with nary a word from der Trumpenfuhrer.

The video of this could stand as a lesson for children all across the land, with parents saying, "See, this is how stupid and obnoxious you look if you're a sore loser."

by the lamestream media and Crooked Hillary.

Are you kidding. Please don't wait up. You will die of exaustion.

I'm with you. Donald Trump must lose by an historic amount. His loss should be so huge that it ends the Republican stranglehold on our country.

As an added bonus, Mr. Trump's loss should destroy him. I want him crushed and completely ruined. He is, as you wrote, toxic. He's also profoundly stupid and is the living example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. He is remarkably incurious and ill-informed. His ego is so overpowering that he's insufferable.

After he loses the election, his trial for Trump University will get underway. One of the cases is based on the RICO statutes and, if convicted, he could face jail time. Like I said, I want him destroyed and gone from our collective consciousness.

Donald Trump is an idiot and so is anyone who votes for him.

If we all get 50 we slaughter the barbarian hordes.

If we don't they keep their ability to disrupt our nation's business.

It's not Trump, it is demoralizing his minions.

Without the brain dead followers, Trump is nothing.

...My God. I never thought I'd see an election like this--a candidate like this. This is worse than 1968.

across the board for sure.

America needs to lock the insane republicans in the attic for good!

We are not going back to the 50's so F them!

...along with anyone else coasting on corporate-sponsored nativism and anti-intellectualism.

The GOP must lose across the board to improve the country.

Up and down ballot. No complacency! And Hillary please take this moment in history which I believe was made for you and govern like you are campaigning ....decisive inclusive empathetic strong no hesitation.... and keep your eye on that prize of Democratic majority.

Like a heart attack. He doesn't like to lose. Already the GOP wants to ditch him as a candidate. A fake heart attack would be the perfect excuse to opt out of the race. Of course Mike Spence would be pretty easy to beat if there were enough time to inform voters about the dangers of a Spence presidency. I guess around Oct 1 would be the very latest for the GOP to put up a new candidate.

some fake medical excuse, except that would show he's weak. So maybe not.

He'll probably just blame everyone else except himself, when he gets creamed. That seems to be his MO.

I doubt that he will be able to graciously concede on election night. Remember how gracious Al Gore was in his concession speech? No way will Trump be able to do likewise. I predict that Trump will far far surpass Nixon's "You won't have Richard Nixon to kick around any more" sore loser withdrawal. I must confess that I feel a little glee at the prospect of seeing Trump experience the humiliation that's heading his way come election night. Totally his own making however. I also imagine that HRC will have something gracious to say to Republicans, because she is a very classy lady.

You know, something along the lines of "Everybody knows this was rigged for Crooked Hillary... lots of people are saying there will be trouble now... I am hearing about plans to revolt" etc. etc. etc.

He's the same as any strongman here - hitler, mussolini. Hitler committed suicide and finally gave his Church sufficient reason to excommunicate him - (murdering millions just didn't have sufficient weight with them). Trump is really a bad guy. We just haven't actually experienced the horrors he could inflict on our country let alone on us Democrats and progressives. His call to harm Hillary was very predictive of what he would do to us. He really should be held legally accountable for it. We should not let the American people forget that he got away with inciting an assassination. He comes very close to fascists, nazis and other right wing extremists by that act.

STRONGEST! BELIEVE ME!!"

You inspire me to get off my giant agoraphobic ass and head over to the local Dem's headquarters.

My "agoraphobia" is more about getting out the door, or going out of my comfort zone!

Once I'm past that, I'm pretty good...and doing calls alongside other folks would keep me disciplined and on task.

It's worse being home alone and making calls!!! Evil phone machine!!!! AGHHH! Yikes! Much worse!

Goooood gif!

but I would love nothing more than to see this crackpot lose in historic fashion just to crush his ego. although, I don't believe for a minute that he will quit before the election or go away quietly. the narrative has been spoken too many times thus far - crooked elections, crooked Hillary, the people love me, yadda yadda yadda...

this is far more pressing than vendettas against one man or the republican party.

If he gets 25% of the popular vote, it will be too many. If he gets more than 50 electoral college votes, it will be too many. I want the whole country to shout "NO!" so even he and his braindead supporters can't deny the loss.

I want to do a version of the Dead Parrot Sketch about the Orange Blowhard.

no matter how valid or mild or constructive it is. I've still posted criticism of her and her campaign, albeit mild and devoid of any nefarious motives. Most of the reactions are disturbing.

This op is about, well, what I believe about trump and his devotees.

I don't trust Clinton on a host of issues.

but her flaws pale in comparison to the dangers I believe trump and trumpism poses.

As well as a Democratic president.

Obama, according to a very vocal faction at DU, "failed" to deliver on so many promises he never actually made that the number of groups who allegedly were "thrown under the bus" by Obama his own self got to be uncountable.

That created, incidentally, it's own kind of echo chamber in the main fora of DU. Those of us who genuinely liked the man and his character and were willing to wait for events to unfold ended up hanging out in the BOG for a good part of the last 7 years.

Long before this date, and despite the intractable opposition of the House, Senate, and media, Obama's accomplishments began to rack up. The actual promises he made were ticked off the list. Those of us who understood his mindset could see the incremental steps that were being taken were enormously significant in laying the solid foundation for the final outcome -- for instance, on gay marriage. We celebrated in the BOG.

Out in GD... well, sometimes the claim that one doesn't have an echo chamber seems a little hollow.

So, don't worry. Unless Skinner really means to keep the new TOS in place after HRC is sworn in, I expect to spend a lot of time over in the HRC Room. This, of course, is just my ironic take on the culture here, based on 14 years' experience.

Listen, Liberal: What Ever Happened to the Party of the People? - A book of great importance that I've never seen discussed here.

Before polls close west of the Mississippi so that as the results of the western states come it . . . It appears to be an avalanche! And the Senate and House need to change hands! We need to elect Dems across the board and run the GOP out of any position of authority!

California, for instance, is the most heavily-populated state in the union. We like to imagine our votes actually mean something.

Senate and House to turn Blue as everyone jumps on the band wagon! There were good people who were voted out of office when the Reagan landslide happened. Time to return the favor! The west needs to be the punctuation mark!

Why else would all the bigots and small men support him. Pro wrestlers, wrestlers in general (Iowa State team came out for Donnie.).
Stallone/Willis/Van Damne(who is an open racist) all support Trump.

We must crush the GOP, destroy them. They are the cancer of fascism.

When the con loses, he; rant and rage for a while, then go back to his royal palace and live as before. IF the party he's heading now is destroyed, the World will be a much better place for a very long time. At least until a replacement party can build a following, and THAT takes a LONG TIME!

...be toast, but to be creamed chipped beef on toast - the despised military meal also known as "shit on a shingle."

A fitting description of this boorish scumbag.

He never expected to and it's too much work. And it jives well with the report that when he offered Pence job he said Pence cold perform the day to day stuff. Trump would do the rest.

Please let's not get overconfident. We need to get the vote out. This could easily go the other way if we sit back smugly. Please work for a Democratic victory up and down the lines.

When George W. Bush was in office, I began to miss President Reagan, but soon after Trump announced his intentions to seek the Republican nomination, I started to miss George W. Bush. Now that Trump is in full authoritarian swing, I miss every Republican candidate who came before him.

Donald Trump is the living, breathing embodiment of a zillion Republican chickens coming home to roost. Even with a teleprompter, his eggs aren`t edible and there is chicken crap everywhere.

not Commander-in-Chief. He is dangerous.

It must be a resounding defeat to send a strong message.

of the intelligence of the American people is on the line here. It was damaged enough when W got elected twice.

As they said in Chicago in the summer of '68, "The whole world is watching".

Good post and I agree 100%. This election can't be close...it must be a crushing demoralizing embarrassing total defeat of this clown. Don't get me wrong...any type of Hillary win is needed, but a landslide might change the game.

and write poetry to his greatness.

"'My name is Donald J. Trump, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"

At least until October, when it's too late for the Repubs to replace him on ballots.



(poetry by Shelley, modified by Vogon poets)

Trying to normalize my schedule for work so I can see about volunteering as well.

We cannot rest. we have to assume Trump will win and work hard to get registered Dems to vote.

crushing Donnie would just feel so damn GOOD.

personal animus.

But who doesn't like icing?

Trump is a 100% clear sign that the morons of this country have taken over and refuse to give up their power. They started with the fucking Tea Party and now it is going to end here.

It's inspired by a series of "What I believe" that started with Bertrand Russell's essay by that name in 1925, was followed by E.M. Forster's astonishing essay of the same name published in The Nation in July of 1938, and riffed on many times over the years. NPR ran a series by that name within the last few years.

I have thought many of these thoughts. Great post!

The real problem for America, isn't Trump.

Can you guess what it is?

It is the tens of millions of people who passionately support him.
They, or their families, in millions of cases, have been hurt by an economy that favors
investors, bankers and corporations. In addition, these folks' emotions and perceptions have been
twisted like pretzels by the racist-tinged, highly-manipulative, NON-STOP avalanche of
venal, dishonest BS that is FoxNooz, vicious hate-radio talk-show hosts, and the hideous RW media
in general.

In addition, the racist fringe of America has joined in, with an ugly enthusiasm for attacking civil rights.
Put 'em all together, and you've got the "Trumpers".

The real Frankenstein's Monster is this group of many millions of enraged, and very confused and hateful Americans
who will only be frustrated further by Trump's defeat. They are not going anywhere.
They will, if history is to be any lesson for us, choose more and more extreme representatives to insert their hopes, fears and hatreds into, in an escalating pattern, possibly culminating in a future candidate far worse than Trump.

A solid Progressive agenda put forth by the Democratic Party, strongly and persistently, that truly helps the US middle class and working class to recover some sense of economic security,
earning power and HOPE, would go a considerable way towards eroding and moderating this angry sub-group,
and reducing both their numbers and their intensity.

But if both parties continue their intensely pro-corporate/pro-big-business course on economic policies, IMO,
things will continue to escalate and tilt frighteningly rightward.

In the classic example of Nazi Germany, the Nazi Party only got 37% of the vote. That may not be as many
as the "Trumpers" may be right now, in America. In 1930s Germany, The rest of the citizenry were pulled, or dragged, along, ultimately, by this minority, to disaster.
With the economic collapse Germany endured, that was all it took (37%) to bend the country to the extreme rightwing.

If that collapse could have been somehow lessened or neutralized for the majority of working people,
the 3rd Reich may never have come to power.

There will always be extremist groups and candidates, but history show us clearly:
Economics matter.

Bad economics clearly empowers tyranny and oppression. This a major lesson of History.
It behooves us to heed that in America, at this critical juncture.

A bad economy for working people, combined with a common sense of citizen helplessness in trying to change it,
empowers tyrants every time.


FoXNooz and the toxic US RW media ain't going anywhere (except maybe Hell).

The milions of angry, confused "Trumpers" will
still be searching, as drug-addicts do, for ever more potent sources of intoxication.

If the "bad whiskey" of past Republicans who damaged America, like Reagan and Dubya, has given way to the "cocaine" of Trump, then, we must ask-------if Trump fails,
what future candidate will be this group's heroin? Or crack?
Or meth?

If either party does not step-up to save America's middle class, the Trumpers will just get more and more extreme,
as will the "leaders" they are likely to put up, endangering our future, as much or MORE, as Trump endangers us now.

True, but if the best they can come up with for leadership is our Maine senior senator, the spine of oatmeal Susan Collins, it'll never happen!

PEACE!

Hopefully Ayotte will be HONE in January!

PEACE!

I hope they all collapse along with Trumpty Dumpty.

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Between republican and russian operatives we could see interesting results.

I'm working all of my friends to vote for HRC. Those on the RW spectrum who would not vote for her for various reasons, I've been suggesting Gary Johnson. Those who favor Jill Stein, well, I'm pushing HRC or to disengage as I do not want them distracting from HRC at this point.

Not one vote for Trump.

Do you have a more difficult task?

not this 52% to whatever, even 10%.

Let's go for the 80/20 split so the Dems can claim a REAL majority.

"Cause if von Dickface or whatever his name is gets in office, it would be Pres. Spence
in a split second.

The letter of resignation or of impeachment is ready and waiting, I'd bet.

The guy looks like he's going to explode. His BP must be really up there.
Probably higher than anyone else anyway, you know really high, you can't imagine how high.

It's so high...

the fall of the house of Trump.