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Mon Aug 8, 2016, 11:15 AM

Can We Trust Julian Assange and WikiLeaks?

Film maker Alex Gibney in a New York Times opinion piece:

"The release of a cache of emails from the Democratic National Committee by WikiLeaks last month has raised a great many questions — about the role of the D.N.C. in trying to influence the primary and about the alleged interference of Russian intelligence in an American election.

It also raised long-debated questions about WikiLeaks itself, about how an organization dedicated to radical transparency continues to bring secretive worlds to light. And the episode reveals some of the weaknesses of WikiLeaks and its founder, Julian Assange, like their recklessness with personal data and their use of information to settle scores and drive personal agendas.

I’ve had my own run-ins with Mr. Assange. During the making of my 2013 film, “We Steal Secrets: The Story of WikiLeaks,” I spent an agonizing six hours with him, when he was living in an English country house while out on bail. I was struck by how insistently he steered the conversation away from matters of principle to personal slights against him, and his plans for payback. He demanded personal “intel” on others I had interviewed, and dismissed questions about the organization by saying, “I am WikiLeaks” repeatedly. (Later, Mr. Assange and his followers attacked both me and my film.)"

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/08/opinion/can-we-trust-julian-assange-and-wikileaks.html?_r=0

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Reply Can We Trust Julian Assange and WikiLeaks? (Original post)
lapucelle Aug 2016 OP
OKNancy Aug 2016 #1
MichiganVote Aug 2016 #2
auntpurl Aug 2016 #3
Avalux Aug 2016 #4
Peacetrain Aug 2016 #5
charlyvi Aug 2016 #6
Hortensis Aug 2016 #7
workinclasszero Aug 2016 #8
DemonGoddess Aug 2016 #9
MineralMan Aug 2016 #10
Recursion Aug 2016 #11
AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #12
Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #13

Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 11:25 AM

1. just like Trump. Peas in a pod

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 11:40 AM

2. Short answer, no.

 

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 11:48 AM

3. Of course not. I don't believe a word they release.

And I bet a lot of people are just like me. They/Assange clearly have an axe to grind. A Russian axe.

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 11:52 AM

4. Why would we? Assange/Wikileaks have no loyalty to anyone or any institution.

They exist to play spoiler and throw a wrench in the works at every opportunity. You can either praise or demonize them depending on how it affects your 'team'.

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 11:53 AM

5. You can trust them about as far as you can throw them..

wikileaks has an agenda that is too much in bed with Putin for my tastes

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:09 PM

6. Can't see how he's any different from Roger Ailes.

Using your organization to seek revenge for slights you think have been done to you shows a small, vindictive, ego driven mentality. The mentality of a coward. He's also an alleged rapist who refuses to face charges for it. Yep, he and Ailes have much in common.

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:12 PM

7. “If an Afghan civilian helps coalition forces, he deserves to die.”

As for the way the leak was published, Mr. Assange and WikiLeaks have more to answer for. Contained in the D.N.C. archive were Social Security numbers and credit card data of private individuals, information that served no public interest. Mr. Assange defended this invasion of privacy by claiming that deleting the information would have harmed the integrity of the archive.

But there is a responsible tradition of redacting potentially harmful private information. In 2010, just before publishing the first Afghan war logs provided to WikiLeaks by Chelsea Manning, Mr. Assange and a group of journalists from The Guardian, The New York Times and Der Spiegel were engaged in a tussle over redacting the names of Afghan informants. The three publications all decided to do so, but Mr. Assange disagreed. As he told Nick Davies of The Guardian, “If an Afghan civilian helps coalition forces, he deserves to die.”


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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:14 PM

8. Putin does for sure

 

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:16 PM

9. Nope

they really showed their true colors with the DNC leak via Russia.

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:47 PM

10. Quite simply, no.

Assange is an anarchist. He doesn't give a damn about government. He wants it all gone.

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 12:49 PM

11. Wikileaks can be useful, but I don't trust them farther than I can throw them

They're one of many gray-hatted forces in the world.

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 01:02 PM

12. Assange's alignment with Russia will answer that question.

I think sometimes desperation makes strange bedfellows.

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Mon Aug 8, 2016, 04:49 PM

13. NO.

Russian tool.

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