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Rapist Assanges admits emails released to harm Clinton. (Original Post) One of the 99 Jul 2016 OP
It didn't work - but it got rid of DWS. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2016 #1
Which actually helps Clinton JI7 Jul 2016 #10
If that was true... scscholar Jul 2016 #31
it's a position of "honor" which means she has no power JI7 Jul 2016 #32
Jerk apcalc Jul 2016 #2
If the emails didn't exist, there wouldn't have been any harm. That Guy 888 Jul 2016 #3
Take 20,000 emails from the Sanders campaign. baldguy Jul 2016 #4
Wrong. The emails simply provide fodder for those who want to attack the Democratic nominee. KittyWampus Jul 2016 #5
Is your email so perfect? LibraLiz1973 Jul 2016 #9
DNC emails are not Campaign emails, at least they shouldn't be. The emails were from DNC officials! That Guy 888 Jul 2016 #19
Nothing in the emails are harmful, sounds like the last email "NON SCANDAL" that people uponit7771 Jul 2016 #11
There's been no harm. joshcryer Jul 2016 #24
Sure there has, it removes the idea that HRC won her nomination. That Guy 888 Jul 2016 #29
Based on the emails, what actions did they take? One of the 99 Jul 2016 #33
I don't think either of us has gone through all 20,000 emails. That Guy 888 Jul 2016 #35
Bias is one thing One of the 99 Jul 2016 #37
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #38
"Why worry about government spying if you have nothing to hide?" geek tragedy Jul 2016 #25
Was Assange convicted? Merlot Jul 2016 #6
I agree... the title should be SaschaHM Jul 2016 #8
Is the implication that his accuser is lying? LibraLiz1973 Jul 2016 #12
fleeing is often used to show guilt dsc Jul 2016 #15
No. Apparently can't be bothered to appear in court to clear his name. emulatorloo Jul 2016 #16
He's hiding out at the Ecuador Embassy for a reason. FarPoint Jul 2016 #28
Or avoiding extradition to the US. That Guy 888 Jul 2016 #30
Is your query relevant? LanternWaste Jul 2016 #34
What the hell? onecaliberal Jul 2016 #7
It's like he can't prove to the world enough how ineffectual he truly is. randome Jul 2016 #13
Glad he admitted it rather than lie/pretend he's neutral emulatorloo Jul 2016 #14
How's he enjoying London? Bad Thoughts Jul 2016 #17
Oh yeah.. they denied it here.. said they would "be monitoring Joy Reid..blah blah" Cha Jul 2016 #18
On the article Assange was worried about Hillary's hawkish foreign policy. JRLeft Jul 2016 #20
do you really think he gives a shit about hawkish foreign policy ? he is supporting Putin JI7 Jul 2016 #21
Yes I do, a lot of people care. You should too. JRLeft Jul 2016 #22
not if they are supporting Putin JI7 Jul 2016 #23
Assange, is never leaving that room in the embassy....... Historic NY Jul 2016 #26
Thank you for addressing Assange as the offender of women. FarPoint Jul 2016 #27
The aggrandizement of this man as a hero by the left Skidmore Jul 2016 #36
WHY ARE PEOPLE SURPRISED AT THIS? Blue_Tires Jul 2016 #39
 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
4. Take 20,000 emails from the Sanders campaign.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 09:42 PM
Jul 2016

Find the half-dozen most ill-advised messages that cast the organization in the worst light possible, then spend a week harping on them. Then we'll talk.

The DNC emails are the sideshow diversion. The fact that Putin is behind it is the real story, and the fact that he could manipulate people so easily.

LibraLiz1973

(8,197 posts)
9. Is your email so perfect?
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 09:50 PM
Jul 2016

Were they wrong to choose a side so early?
OF COURSE.

Was this ALWAYS going to be the outcome regardless?
YES, its was.

No one is as clean as you would want.
You think Bernie's campaign emails aren't similar?
Trumps?
Jebs?
Cruz?
Rubio?

Debbie needed to step down because she didn't lead- she should've cut much of that shit off at the pass.
But the bottom line is this- NO EMAIL account EVER is clean as a whistle. Everyone can pick through something and
find offensive shit. It's a fact.

She's held to a different standard and is maligned more than any other candidate or politician ever.

It's crazy.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
19. DNC emails are not Campaign emails, at least they shouldn't be. The emails were from DNC officials!
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 11:29 PM
Jul 2016

DNC officials who said there was absolutely no bias in the election!

Was this ALWAYS going to be the outcome regardless?
YES, its was.


Then those officials involved should have run a scrupulously even-handed election, instead of the farce they did run. They put an asterisk on Clinton's nomination.

She's held to a different standard and is maligned more than any other candidate or politician ever.


It's more than Debbie, she didn't write all of those emails. But maligned or not her ability to pick pro-Clinton "winners" (or republicans she "can work with&quot will ooze into the 50 State Strategy.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
11. Nothing in the emails are harmful, sounds like the last email "NON SCANDAL" that people
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 09:50 PM
Jul 2016

... eat without much discernment

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
29. Sure there has, it removes the idea that HRC won her nomination.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 01:08 AM
Jul 2016

Her friends in the DNC ensured not only would she receive the nomination, they also ensured that drumpf would have a new weapon to use against her handed to him on a silver platter: She's the DNC's pick, not the people of the Democratic Party. A candidate chosen by Party Insiders. I hate drumpf. He's a con man, but nobody could accuse him of being the pick of the RNC insiders.

People who were still on the fence about HRC could have said to themselves, "Well she did win the nomination fair and square, I don't want to be a sore loser because my candidate didn't win." Despite being called conspiracy theorist and the many posted here when the subject was bought up, the DNC did collude to support Clinton and suppress Sanders. It makes it difficult (and for some impossible) to unify behind HRC, especially with the boneheaded move of making DWS honorary Chair on the 50 State Strategy to gain Democratic seats. Even ignoring the recent fiasco, DWS once refused(as chair of the FL Democrats) to support candidates running against republicans that "she could work with".

One of the 99

(2,280 posts)
33. Based on the emails, what actions did they take?
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 09:55 AM
Jul 2016

You can't answer that because while the emails do prove that some at the DNC had a bias, they don't show that any actions were taken.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
35. I don't think either of us has gone through all 20,000 emails.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 01:46 PM
Jul 2016
...while the emails do prove that some at the DNC had a bias...


That's all that's needed. Especially since we aren't talking about low access data entry employees, but the top tier leadership of the DNC. A fish rots from the head while not scientific is an apt metaphor here.

Response to One of the 99 (Reply #37)

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
25. "Why worry about government spying if you have nothing to hide?"
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 12:40 AM
Jul 2016

I find this reasoning unpersuasive.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
8. I agree... the title should be
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 09:49 PM
Jul 2016

"Alleged Rapist who is currently waiting out the statute of limitations for his alleged crimes in an embassy" Julian Assange.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
13. It's like he can't prove to the world enough how ineffectual he truly is.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 09:51 PM
Jul 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)
[/center][/font][hr]

Cha

(297,154 posts)
18. Oh yeah.. they denied it here.. said they would "be monitoring Joy Reid..blah blah"
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 10:46 PM
Jul 2016
And, wikilieaks is warning Joy Reid.. wikileaks for cripe sake!

Joy Reid
✔ ?@JoyAnnReid
Tomorrow on #AMJoy we'll explore the unprecedented affinity between an American presidential candidate - Trump - Russia and Wilileaks.

WikiLeaks
✔ ?@wikileaks
@JoyAnnReid You are pushing a discredited conspiracy theory. There is no affinity, whatsoever. Our lawyers will monitor your program.
7:57 PM - 23 Jul 2016
1,569 1,569 Retweets 2,609 2,609 likes

Kim Ghattas
✔ ?@BBCKimGhattas
Wow. Wiki leaks is now into intimidating journalists @JoyAnnReid https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/757092238400913408
3:09 AM - 24 Jul 2016
580 580 Retweets 442 442 likes

Joy Reid ?@JoyAnnReid · 4h4 hours ago
This isn't getting as much attention, but Russian meddling in the U.S. election IS the biggest bombshell out there.
https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://theobamadiary.com/2016/07/24/president-obama-on-face-the-nation/

Russian government hackers penetrated DNC, stole opposition research on Trump

The DNC said that no financial, donor or personal information appears to have been accessed or taken, suggesting that the breach was traditional espionage, not the work of criminal hackers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-government-hackers-penetrated-dnc-stole-opposition-research-on-trump/2016/06/14/cf006cb4-316e-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html

Ronald Brownstein
?@RonBrownstein
More @SangerNYT "metadata from the released emails suggests that the documents passed through Russian computers"

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-emails.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

It's Official: Hillary Clinton Is Running Against Vladimir Putin

Fulfilling what might be the Russian autocrat’s dearest wish, Trump has openly questioned whether the U.S. should keep its commitments to NATO.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/07/clinton-trump-putin-nato/492332/

Loki~http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2288850

While Sen Tim Kaine's son is being deployed this week to go help NATO.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
20. On the article Assange was worried about Hillary's hawkish foreign policy.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 12:28 AM
Jul 2016

I have the same concerns, but no way in the world would Trump better.

FarPoint

(12,336 posts)
27. Thank you for addressing Assange as the offender of women.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 12:52 AM
Jul 2016

The wiki leaker is an " alleged" serial rapist....he continues to attack women of power as a rapist always target.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
36. The aggrandizement of this man as a hero by the left
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 01:57 PM
Jul 2016

has always sickened me. Videogame mentality when it comes to real life have unintended consequences. When institutions are not working you get together and find solutions to fix them. Blowing everything up exposes the most vulnerable among. The law of unintended consequences surfaces in ways you cannot control. We have a system for change but no one wants to play by the rules to change it. Put down the joysticks and look around you. Who do you know that will be harmed by the worst case scenario people like Trump or Assange could usher in? That is reality.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
39. WHY ARE PEOPLE SURPRISED AT THIS?
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 06:12 PM
Jul 2016

Assange/Snowden/Greenwald pulled the same bullshit stunt two years ago in New Zealand's election (and it failed there as well), and I told anybody who was listening that was a dry run for 2016, depending on how the primaries played out...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025538422
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016102490
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025538835

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