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TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:13 PM Jul 2016

"Yes, of course Donald Trump can win" - article from the WaPo

Excerpt from the article:

Clinton is a uniquely flawed candidate. She has been in the national eye for a very long time and people have largely made up their minds about her. It is very hard for her to change those perceptions. What that means is she has a hard and relatively low vote ceiling; no matter what she says or does (or what Trump says or does) there is a rock-hard group of people who will not vote for her.

In a binary choice election — which is what this is — Trump benefits from the fact that he is simply not Clinton. What's happened to date in the race — pre-GOP convention — is that support has peeled off Clinton but not gone to Trump. Rather, it's moved to "undecided." The GOP convention, as Philip Bump documented here, led to some movement to Trump. Hence the tightening in polls.

What this all means is that the race is close today and there's plenty of reason to believe it will stay like that all the way until the election. For those who say Trump can't win, you probably said he would have never made it this far. All assumptions need to go out the window in an election like this one. Trump seems to understand that.


Trump is a terrible candidate, completely unsuitable and it is appalling that he even in in the discussion for the presidency. At the same time, Hillary has been in the public eye for so long that I don't expect her numbers to change much for better or worse. People made up their minds a long time ago about whether they will vote for her. Another article I read stated that this election almost comes down to a generic Dem against a generic Republican, and we need to make sure and get out the vote in November.

Rest of the WaPo article here - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/25/yes-of-course-donald-trump-can-win/
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"Yes, of course Donald Trump can win" - article from the WaPo (Original Post) TeddyR Jul 2016 OP
What is the point of posting this. O.K., people hate Hillary. And yes, Trump can win. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #1
Your last sentence is the point I think TeddyR Jul 2016 #3
While, yes, Trump will get some votes because he is not Clinton, Clinton will get also get votes merrily Jul 2016 #2
Trump's path to victory hinges on the Angry White Assholes in a handful of states Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2016 #4
"Yes of course Mitt Romney can win...." heresAthingdotcom Jul 2016 #5
It never really "felt" like Romney TeddyR Jul 2016 #6
 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
1. What is the point of posting this. O.K., people hate Hillary. And yes, Trump can win.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:15 PM
Jul 2016

What's the point?

We get out there and work hard to make sure that doesn't happen.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
3. Your last sentence is the point I think
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:39 PM
Jul 2016

Don't get complacent, don't assume he can't win and work hard to elect Hillary. no secret agenda here.

On edit, I see a lot of posts here that claim Hillary is going to win in a landslide. And she might, but she isn't going to luck into it and Dems need to work this election.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
2. While, yes, Trump will get some votes because he is not Clinton, Clinton will get also get votes
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:18 PM
Jul 2016

because she is not Trump. The Republicans who have been saying they will vote for her would never had said that had the nominee been Jeb or Mitt or Kasick or almost anyone else.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
4. Trump's path to victory hinges on the Angry White Assholes in a handful of states
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:44 PM
Jul 2016

My fear is that Trump will be able to draw upon some of the Angry White Assholes who are either Democrats or have been non-voters up to this point. And for every antidote of a Republican banker, lawyer, professional golfer or dentist who might be so aghast at Trump they would vote for Hillary Clinton there are probably a dozen Angry White Assholes to will or might vote for Trump.

heresAthingdotcom

(160 posts)
5. "Yes of course Mitt Romney can win...."
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:53 PM
Jul 2016

Romney Shellshocked….

Mitt Romney's campaign got its first hint something was wrong on the afternoon of Election Day, when state campaign workers on the ground began reporting huge turnout in areas favorable to President Obama: northeastern Ohio, northern Virginia, central Florida and Miami-Dade.
Then came the early exit polls that also were favorable to the president.
But it wasn't until the polls closed that concern turned into alarm. They expected North Carolina to be called early. It wasn't. They expected Pennsylvania to be up in the air all night; it went early for the President.
After Ohio went for Mr. Obama, it was over, but senior advisers say no one could process it.
"We went into the evening confident we had a good path to victory," said one senior adviser. "I don't think there was one person who saw this coming."


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/adviser-romney-shellshocked-by-loss/
 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
6. It never really "felt" like Romney
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:37 PM
Jul 2016

Was going to win though. My hazy recollection is that while Obama never seemed like he was going to run away with the race it always felt like he had a lead. I think the perception here is that Hillary should be running away with the race because of how awful Trump is.

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