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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 02:51 PM Mar 2012

Why does Mitt lead in Illinois and Rick in Wisconsin

Amazing the difference in two neighboring states. Guess Chicago makes
a huge difference
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/


Republican Primary Projections
Updated March 16, 2012 at 2:08 PM ET

Illinois
Mar. 20 VOTE PROJECTION

Mitt Romney 41.7%
Rick Santorum 33.4
Newt Gingrich 15.1


Wisconsin
Apr. 3 VOTE PROJECTION

Rick Santorum 45.9%
Mitt Romney 28.8
Newt Gingrich 11.8

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KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
2. Millard Always Seems To Do Well...
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 03:20 PM
Mar 2012

...in places he'll lose if he's the nominee in November. Here in Illinois his "strength" is in the Chicago and St. Louis areas while Rectorum gets his strength downstate, but never enough to counteract the large population north of Interstate 80. The interesting thing will be turnout...

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
3. Mitt wins urban areas
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 03:36 PM
Mar 2012

It's been true throughout the run so far, except in Newt's Georgia. Cook County and the collar counties are Mitt country, and quite populous; FrothyMix will take downstate, but it won't be enough. Wisconsin is less urban, and so more Froth-friendly.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
13. right. this is from today's Chicago Trib
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 08:18 AM
Mar 2012

Almost three-quarters of the state's Republican vote is traditionally cast in the Chicago area. Downstate Republicans are typically more conservative than their suburban counterparts, a difference Santorum sought to exploit in Effingham, a city more than 200 miles south of Chicago at the intersection of Interstates 57 and 7

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
4. Two things I think are in play...
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 03:41 PM
Mar 2012

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1) The largest religious denomination in Wisconsin is Roman Catholic. Santorum is Catholic.

2) If 2010-2012 has shown anything, it is that this state's republicans prefer their leaders to have an authoritarian streak. Mitt is way to moderate for them.







WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
5. Santorum also won neighboring MN & Iowa--I would say the burbs in Chicago
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 03:53 PM
Mar 2012

are where Mitt's strength are while Ricky's are downstate in more rural areas. But again, Santorum often does better in the actual election than in the polls.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
6. Same reason, probably, why Wisconsin has generally been a more swing state than Illinois...
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 03:58 PM
Mar 2012

Obama won it by a sizable margin in '08, but before that, Kerry only won it by .4% and Gore won it by .22% in 2000. It's got some pretty conservative areas.

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
10. I think Santorum is going to pull out a win in Illinois.
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 11:00 PM
Mar 2012

I'm not a polling expert, but he keeps underperforming in polls (even exit polls) and then making it by a hair on election night.

Mr.Turnip

(645 posts)
11. Wisconsin is a more conservative less urban state.
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 11:01 PM
Mar 2012

Also Newt is pulling in more of the vote in Illinois which really hurts Santorum who is only slightly behind Romney with Newt pulling in 15% still.

Newt hates Romney so much that he's going to hand him the nomination HA!

I think IL will end up like OH with Santorum winning all but like 5 counties and coming in 1 or 2% Romney with Newt pulling in low double digits (thus giving Romney the win)

or maybe Santorum will outdo the polls like he tends to do since a large chunk of Romney's voters simply don't care enough about him to actually turn out for him.

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