2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTo everyone at the DNC telling TV cameras you're going to vote for Jill Stein in Nov.
Get the fuck out of our convention.
oswaldactedalone
(3,490 posts)on their asses, and stomped on before they can get up. Ridiculous.
TeamPooka
(24,218 posts)RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Justitia
(9,316 posts)onecaliberal
(32,814 posts)MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)TeamPooka
(24,218 posts)MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)Response to TeamPooka (Original post)
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Maru Kitteh
(28,333 posts)TeamPooka
(24,218 posts)glennward
(989 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,333 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)may be trimmed, that this will be the last time anyone calling themselves an "independent" or a "Democratic socialist" will appear on the Democratic Party's primary ballot. I have a feeling that henceforth, if you're not IN the party--not caucusing with, but IN the party--you're not playing in our pool.
I also have a feeling that, where possible and where states can be pushed, we'll be saying goodbye to those disenfranchising/activist friendly caucuses. And that's a GOOD thing.
So, they should keep it up, because when the boom happens, they'll be hoisted upon their own petards.
They certainly didn't listen to their leader, did they?
It was a lesson learned - the hard way, but learned nonetheless.
It will be a cold day in hell before the next Democrat-of-convenience runs on OUR ticket.
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Just because they hate that Clinton has such class and was so humble in conceding to Obama. Total silence on DU when that happened.
4lbs
(6,854 posts)Last I heard, Jill Stein isn't a Democrat,
and this isn't a Green Party get together.
Oh, and those saying they'll vote Jill Stein and Green Party or even consider voting for Trump:
Umm... you people do know that Trump is about as anti-green as you can get, right?
Unless you consider a bunch of new golf courses going green.
NJCher
(35,648 posts)Conflict makes us better if we are able to understand the views of others.
Ignore these views at your own peril. If you don't believe me, read up on the cause of the failure of the Challenger.
They have every right to say what they want.
Cher
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)NJCher
(35,648 posts)In the purest sense of the word, she would be pleased that these people get to have their say.
And, I dare say, she would not be impressed with your assessment that free speech rains on her parade. In fact, it celebrates it. I would like to think her ego is big enough to handle it.
Cher
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)no one said they can't have their freedom of speech. I am all for it. But do it somewhere else. Kind of like talking on the phone in a movie theater. It is annoying as hell.
NJCher
(35,648 posts)Entertainment is one thing.
Political conventions are all about diversity of opinion, and quite another thing.
If you want a coronation, go to England.
Cher
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)But, no. The convention is not about just any opinion. There is decorum and guidelines you need to follow. And make no mistake, politics is entertainment on some level. If it wasn't, Trump wouldn't be where he is.
randome
(34,845 posts)That's not 'diversity of opinion'. That's just being crass.
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Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Honest question...
JustAnotherGen
(31,798 posts)For the other woman in the race this year. That's my guess. I can't remember her name though.
BainsBane
(53,027 posts)What else do ratfuckers do?
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)if every politician could pass your purity test but you don't always get perfection. Hillary is not perfect. We get it. But she is the nominee now against Trump.
Nothing you say about her now is going to change that so why bother? You're only helping Trump at this point.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)will vote for the competition to reporters...they are acting as spoilers and disrespectfully... are they Greens? This is their MO.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)a revered civil rights icon, a rising star in the Senate from NJ, and the senior senator from Massachusetts, among others.
There's protest, and there's Being A Childish, Petulant Asshole. The convention is a workspace--people who want to "protest" to the point that they are disrupting the work of the party to the point where those in attendance cannot hear the speakers can get up off their asses and go to the street to do that kind of thing.
I'm with Sarah Silverman--ridiculous is what those disruptors were being. They aren't 'democrats' with a big or small D--they are trying to PREVENT democracy by shutting down the work of a convention because their view was not carried by the majority. TFB for them.
I think Sanders should pull their credentials. He ASKED them to be polite, and they told him, basically, with their behavior, to fuck himself.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Totally agree with you about them having the right to their own opinions, but SOME folks are just rude AND crude.
SMDH
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Those who were heckling Elijah Cummings and several other Dem speakers (Marcia Fudge, who wasn't having it, and told them to respect her as she would them). Also, a guy allegedly yelling @ Liz Warren when she was speaking. I believe somebody said this one guy kept yelling at her "We trusted you," or some bogus crap. I heard him, but couldn't make out what he was saying.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)I heard them booing and have onlty read that a few chanted lock her up. Unfreakingbelievable!! Didn't know they chanted "we trusted you" to EW. These people live in an insulated, idealistic and myopic world. They set themselves up for failure and disappointment and then we have to lis ten to their bullshit. They are so frustrating....
TeamPooka
(24,218 posts)BainsBane
(53,027 posts)Over the Tea Party or any other group committed to defeating Democrats?
I didn't see much concern for understanding others when we were being insulted day in and day out as corporate shills and camp weathervane, not real Democrats because we dared to support another candidate. They dismissed me as a vagina voter and repeatedly insulted African Americans. When Planned Parenthood endorsed Clinton, they didn't try to understand. They set about working to strip PP of funding and with it women's reproductive rights. When they insulted and attacked Civil Rights activists, I saw no sign of efforts to understand. I saw a clear determination to force others into submitting to their rule.
I will not defer to the ratfuckers working to see Trump put in office. I will not. I have more respect for the admitted conservatives because at least they are honest about what they are. This people boo Elijah Cummings because he dared to talk about civil rights. They are beneath contempt.
Wtf don't you understand about a democratic convention, and fuck that comment If HRC is a DEM...your comments are stunningly arrogant. Sore losers can vent elsewhwre
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)Outside of the Democratic National Convention.
BainsBane
(53,027 posts)The ratfuckers can fuck the hell off.
Lady_Chat
(561 posts)LOL! Not even realizing Bernie was given prime time. Poor thing, she was "forced" to sit through Booker, Warren, and 1st Lady Michelle Obama. Obviously she got nothing out of them, while the rest of us, sure did. Then she "believed" Bernie, she "trusted" Bernie, but then again, she didn't believe or trust Bernie. Huh? It seemed she knew nothing about the platform changes, either. Looked like she would have been better off just going home and going to bed.
TeamPooka
(24,218 posts)Cosmocat
(14,561 posts)Of what these people are.
JI7
(89,244 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I suspect there aren't a lot of them, but of course the corporate "newz" cameras are seeking them out.
BainsBane
(53,027 posts)over on the website you insist shouldn't be criticized.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I cant tell you what not to say, bain. Nor do I have the slightest desire to try.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)FSogol
(45,470 posts)joshcryer
(62,269 posts)But it doesn't get serious until the roll goes out.
Day one they just get shit out of their system.
There will be arrests if people act that way during the roll. They signed paperwork promising to be diligent supporters of the process and party loyalists.
The "we trusted you" guy and the "hillary warhawk" people are probably under heavy scrutiny now. It's one thing to express displeasure, it's another thing entirely to protest the damn thing.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)That's how this deal works.
I will say that despite "we trusted you" guy, I noticed a shitton less disruption after about 4:30 my time. I don't know if Sanders texting people to cut the shit did it, or what, but it seemed to get way better.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)...showed, imo, an increasingly depolarized environment. I mean in your state delegation half of your people are going to be Clinton supporters. You got to look them in the eye. So you can't keep a protest up all evening without realizing what an asshole you're being. I can't nail down where the really loud ones are coming from but they are probably states Sanders won in a landslide or where there is animosity (I wouldn't be surprised if Sanders' Nevada delegation is not on good terms).
As I said to oberliner, by the time Sanders started speaking I thought it was doing a hell of a lot better than the beginning. And I watched the whole thing. I intentionally stayed out of the spats here on DU and just waited to see what would happen. I'm glad what Sanders and the top leaders did.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Michelle's, obviously, but Warren was great too and so was Bernie. I only heard part of Booker in the car.
Still I said in another post if you compare our lineup to the GOP's, it's like watching the 92 Bulls play basketball against a sausage dog and a moldy mop.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)He really hit it home with calling cynicism cowardly, directly calling out the assholes who'd just a few minutes earlier drowned out Cummings' entire speech (which itself was a heartfelt brilliant story about his own great grandfather being a sharecropper).
chillfactor
(7,573 posts)even doing at a DEMOCRATIC convention....one nutscase even said she trusted Bernie...Bernie said vote for Hillary..does that dufus even know what she is saying? now she doesn't trust Bernie? how dumb are these people?
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)And how much is Trump paying them?
TeamPooka
(24,218 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)Save it for the Green Convention.
Oh, wait...