MSNBC just said that more protesters are expected to be in Philly than were in Cleveland

[awake]

WTF is up with that? I lived through 68 and remember how we in the left ended up electing Nixon by protesting the wrong party. For the love of all what good will come from Protesting our own party?

[LongtimeAZDem]

1. Because they're cowards who didn't have the guts to protest the Republicans (nt)

[HerbChestnut]

3. Same thing was said about Black Lives Matter... n/t

[Txbluedog]

16. That was a smart move....

Protesting the RNC might have got them shot.

[OldHippieChick]

2. Perhaps they expect to actually be heard by the Democrats.

And, let's face it, Philadelphia is bigger than Cleveland and they may be hoping for a bigger audience.

[DURHAM D]

4. I am sure MSNBC will call those Anarchists, Paulites & Libertarians

"the Democratic base".

MSNBC has lost its mind.

[Trenzalore]

5. The far left is dumber than the far right

I didn't say worse. Politically dumber as far as organizing to get their way.

[StraightRazor]

25. I dunno...

Civil Rights organizers in the '60's seemed to get at least something accomplished.

[Trenzalore]

30. In 2010

The far right focused on local and congressional races and got a whole bunch of nut jobs elected in state houses.

The far left focuses on the Presidency as if it is a dictatorship.

[Hortensis]

37. Most civil rights organizations were left, not far left.

Huge difference between the types in general ability to form stable, effective organizations. The civil rights movement groups also included moderate conservatives, and that cooperation was possible because of inclusive leadership.

Successful organizations didn't abandon focus to argue that only they were the true civil rights activists and none of the others were.

As for the far right being smarter, yuck. They are more cohesive, easier to manipulate through hate and fear, and most tend to be good, eager followers of authoritarian leaders. No accident the Kochs chose them to be their Tea Party stooges, or Trump to be trumpsters.

[glennward]

41. And those gains at that time were also negotiated behind closed doors. nt

[Hortensis]

43. :) Yes, the evil "establishment elites" and their closed doors

were there too.

[superpatriotman]

6. There were protesters in Cleveland?

After the millions spent on security, barriers and extra police - nada!

[awake]

8. ya it was called the Colorado delegation

[Person 2713]

18. HA ! Good one

[upaloopa]

7. Maybe a lot of privileged folks?

[CrowCityDem]

9. Step one: Hate the Dem. Step two: Embarrass yourself. Step three: Victory?

All that a protest is going to do is make it even less likely that the 'progressives' are going to get their way moving forward. Keep pissing on people and see how you're treated. Go ahead.

[Thinkingabout]

10. Professional protesters whose only goal is protest, not looking for results of their protests.

[pangaia]

23. How do you know that?

Is there research on the subject?

[rjsquirrel]

11. The heat will slay them

It's going to be withering.

[Adrahil]

12. Yeah, I think the heat is going to keep them somewhat muted.

It's going to be farkin' HOT.

[Trenzalore]

13. A few weeks ago there were post about protesters reserving campgrounds

I live about 45 miles north of Philadelphia. No one around here goes camping in July in this area.

One thing is sure, they are going to be ripe.

[Hortensis]

44. Some may go home, but remember

those hot summer nights when troublemakers come out.

Whatever. I think people shouldn't worry. So there's some demonstrating. That's democracy. The authorities in Cleveland handled it very well. People were able to demonstrate and act out there with the police controlling, not inciting violence.

And in the convention we may or may not have some boos when something's voted in or out. We won't have an authoritarian mob united on the desirability of imprisoning opponents to win elections.

[HR_Pufnstuf]

17. feel the bern

.

[Scurrilous]

38. 5 Day Forecast from the Weather Channel:

DAY DESCRIPTION HIGH/LOW

TONIGHT

JUL 23
Partly Cloudy
-- 72°

SUN

JUL 24
Partly Cloudy
96° 77°

MON

JUL 25
Partly Cloudy
100° 78°

TUE

JUL 26
Mostly Sunny
97° 76°

WED

JUL 27
Partly Cloudy
94° 74°

THU

JUL 28
Partly Cloudy
94° 75°

Look like fun...

[global1]

14. I Wonder How Many Of Those Protest Groups Are Bought And Paid For By Trump Or The Repugs....

to cause trouble and embarrass the Dems?

[awake]

15. Many are I am sure

But many Trump supporters would not need to be payed to disrupt

[Andy823]

21. My thoughts also

Maybe not all paid, but a lot of the are republicans, and many are also Trump idiots. Those who "claim" to be Democrats but are going to protest because they didn't get all they want, are most likely fakes also. Of course those who are going to have their "farting" contest are just plain as losers, no matter who they are.

[Person 2713]

19. What groups are expected? For what purpose / message?

[awake]

20. The reporter did not say

[4139]

22. Philly easy to get to from nyc and Washington and everywhere inbetwen

[beachbum bob]

24. far left includes the anarchists and those who do the protests at G8 conferences and such

which will include some sander supporters as well....the media is hoping for major protests and confrontations to take attention away from the convention.....

[JaneyVee]

26. What exactly are they protesting?

[dhol82]

27. Good question.

[MoonRiver]

28. Don't believe everything the media tells you.

We will know on Monday.

[onecent]

29. Msnbc can't afford to be long. Let's keep all this fightiing going so they make more money.

FUCK THEM.

[Demsrule86]

31. There is no good reason and they are merely making asses out of themselves and destroying

any chance for Bernie's movement.

[bigdarryl]

33. I though it was set up for protesters to be far from the actual.Convention

[Demsrule86]

35. Does it matter? So called Progressives ignore the GOP and protest those that agree with them 90 %

of the time. All they do is help Trump which is I assume their mission. They will destroy Bernie's movement though.

[Kathy M]

42. I guess I have to question if there

is going to be Sanders supporters .. how many are true Sander supporters or ones pretending to be Sanders supporters . Just said it a little bit ago but will say again Trump has some dirty tricksters Manafort , Stone here a little bit on Stone

"For nearly forty years, Stone has hovered around Republican and national politics, both near the center and at the periphery. "

"Stone revels in his Watergate pedigree, noting almost apologetically that he was never accused of breaking any law. “The Democrats were weak, we were strong,” he told me. (Stone’s rules: “Attack, attack, attack—never defend” and “Admit nothing, deny everything, launch counterattack.”) "

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/06/02/the-dirty-trickster

Long article but good read

[Blue Idaho]

32. I'm getting pretty sick and tired of M$NBC.

The place has taken three huge steps backwards into the bad old days of two or three progressive "hosts" and the rest of the lineup being very conservative. How long before Hugh Hewitt gets his prime time show?

Sowing seeds of Democratic discontent is just par for the course now.

[auntpurl]

34. MSNBC needs a fight for ratings.

I wouldn't pay them any mind. We'll see what happens.

[L. Coyote]

36. in the hopes that it will cause more protestors to go to Philly! Old trick.

[book_worm]

39. Just because there are protests doesn't mean it will elect Trump--the '68 protests

got very ugly with the police attacks, tear gas, etc--and I doubt the Philadelphia protests will be either as intense or attended as 1968.

[bigwillq]

40. Cool.

I support the right to protest, be it in Cleveland, Philly or wherever. I support folks, be them Rs, Ds or Is, standing up for what they believe in.