Connect the dots: Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren will both be in central Florida this weekend

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The suspense is giving me an ulcer.



Connect the dots: Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren will both be in central Florida this weekend


By Bill Palmer | July 21, 2016





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In the lead up to a running mate rollout that’s been played close to the vest, the pieces can be put together in just about any way one might like. But here’s what we do know: Hillary Clinton is holding an event this Friday afternoon at the Tampa Fairgrounds in Florida. Elizabeth Warren has an already-scheduled speech the next morning at the National Council of La Raza in Orlando, about ninety minutes away. If you like, the dots connect in an unmistakably intriguing way.

In the days since Hillary Clinton’s Friday event in Tampa hit the schedule, even as Politico was reporting that insiders were pointing to a running mate rollout in Florida, questions began to fly as to why she might be using the Sunshine State for the rollout. Perhaps it was because she was choosing someone like Julian Castro or Tom Perez, or a fluent Spanish speaker like Tim Kaine, who might play well with the Hispanic voters in the state. Or maybe she chose Florida simply because it’s such a key swing state and she hadn’t held a major public event there for awhile.

But now that we know Elizabeth Warren was already scheduled to be in Florida on Saturday, it brings forth another possible explanation entirely. If Hillary Clinton is going with Warren as her running mate, it could be that she’s simply traveling to the swing state that Warren is already going to be in at the time.

Warren also called Joe Kennedy and asked him to come speak at the Democratic National Convention. If Warren becomes the running mate, it’s expected that Kennedy would be the leading contender to take over her Senate seat in what would be a near-immediate special election. And now she’s suddenly making an effort to raise his profile.............................

[Agschmid]

1. God I hope it's her.

[randome]

2. Fingers crossed.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]

[hrmjustin]

3. I want it to be Warren.

[riversedge]

5. I like Castro myself but I trust she will pick someone who

will help her win.

[PatSeg]

4. I hope all the talk of Vilsack

and Kaine are just diversions, so she can spring a huge surprise with Warren. It would be very creative and inspiring, garnering a ton of great publicity.

[Person 2713]

9. I do hope so .

[RBInMaine]

11. It's not about happy dancing and it won't be Warren. She isn't ready and brings so little to it.

Not ready, no gender balance, needed in the Senate, and brings no geography or new demographics. She would be replaced with a Repuke. Not gonna happen and should not happen.

[PatSeg]

14. The pragmatic part of me agrees with you,

but this election season has been unlike any I've seen, so I'm expecting the unexpected. And god, please don't let it be Vilsack! If it can't be Warren, Xavier Becerra would be a great choice, a real groundbreaking ticket.

Meanwhile, I can still dream of Warren.

[John Poet]

15. 'Gender Balance' ?! Please! Nobody ever called for 'Gender Balance' until--

--- until it was the WHITE MALES who were in danger of being left off the ticket!

Warren would solidify support among the Sanders faction, and may well bump up the vote of millennial women who aren't overly fond of Hillary.

I want to see Trump get his ass kicked royally BY TWO WOMEN! That's probably the worst thing he can imagine happening to himself! What a total humiliation that would be for him!

Anyway, the senate seat "loss" in Massachusetts would only be temporary, as the seat has to be filled by special election. If Joe Kennedy III is to run for it, I think we can win the special election in Massachusetts, for pete's sake.

[awake]

27. + 1000

"Gender Balance" Warren would blow away the GOP and having two strong women will be the best way to go !!!!!

[DLCWIdem]

35. I was just about to post the same thing

Since forever, we have not had gender balance, its been 2 males. So 2 females on the ticket and we need gender balance.

[hamsterjill]

38. Thank you!!!!!

Gender balance, my ass.

What in the hell would be wrong with two strong, intelligent, savvy, independent women on the ticket? They each in their own right scare the hell out of the Republicans, and together, they actually just might make them shit their pants.

[PatSeg]

46. Exactly

What kind of "Gender balance" have we had for the last 250 years? There is plenty of male influence throughout the government, the country can handle two women in the White House. It is only the republican fringe base that couldn't handle it and they aren't voting Democratic anyway.

We've already seen that men don't tend to get under Trump's skin, but strong women really do. It would be absolutely delicious to watch and he sure has it coming.

[workinclasszero]

56. There has never been any "gender balance"

in the whole history of the USA.

Why is that suddenly a "problem" if it means two women on the ticket?

[Squinch]

59. I think she's ready, but I agree with you on everythng else. I don't think it's Warren.

[chascarrillo]

62. You have a problem with two women on the ticket???

[zenabby]

66. This new thing called "Gender Balance"

baffles me!

[zenabby]

67. What does Trump bring?

other than energy? I think EW will bring loads of great energy, suddenly the ticket won't be boring and untrustworthy, people will look up and take notice - it's much more psychological. And imagine great history with two women on the ticket!

[bigwillq]

42. I'd rather it be Warren over Kaine and Vilsack

But I really hope Warren stays in the Senate.

[Southerncomfy]

6. Warren is speaking at a Laraza event which has been planned for over a year

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/political-pulse/os-elizabeth-warren-to-address-la-raza-conference-in-orlando-20160705-story.html

[Eric J in MN]

7. I've liked Elizabeth Warren since around 2004

...when she was a guest on Al Franken's radio show talking about how the leading cause of personal bankruptcies is medical bills.

I hope she's the next VP.

[mainstreetonce]

8. You made me smile

Hill yes!

Hillizabeth

[PatSeg]

12. "Hillizabeth"

See! That alone should be good reason to pick her, it would look great on a bumper sticker.

[lillypaddle]

32. And it has a biblical ring to it ...

[PatSeg]

45. Just imagine how many

baby girls in 2017 would be named Hillizabeth!

[lillypaddle]

60. LOL

[RBInMaine]

10. Warren's not ready, is needed in the Senate, and brings no purple state to the table. No.

[John Poet]

16. Luckily, it's not your say.

[NewJeffCT]

19. Delaware was a solid blue state

when Obama picked Joe Biden as VP.

[Arkana]

25. Neither did the Biden pick in 2008.

Didn't mean it wasn't a good pick.

I'd rather have her in the Senate, but arguing that she shouldn't be the choice because she's from MA is absurd.

[lillypaddle]

31. A lot of people

Thought Obama wasn't ready, either ... Elizabeth Warren is extremely smart and would round any learning curve quickly. Just like our President did - who, btw, is the best there ever was.

[yodermon]

33. "not ready" you keep saying that, what do you mean by that?

[Maven]

36. How exactly is she "not ready"? She's not ready but TIM KAINE is?

[writes3000]

13. I'd love to see Clinton/Warren. Love it!

I'll get on board and fight no matter who the pick is but Warren would energize me more than the others.

[auntpurl]

17. Becerra is still my first choice, but I can definitely get behind Clinton/Warren.

Hillary will make the right choice; I have complete faith in her.

[tallahasseedem]

18. I can't...it's too stressful!!!

Wanna talk about excitement if she is chosen? A Warren/Pence debate? A Warren VP attack dog? I have to stop!!!

[PatSeg]

47. Oh, oh my

I hadn't even thought of that! It would be a political junkie's dream!

[awake]

28. Thats because Bill does not want her to win his ego can not take it

look at all of the things Bill did in 2008 and this last year that has hurt her campaign

[Koinos]

44. That could be a reason for Hillary to pick Warren.

Bill's judgment these days has been very questionable.

[PatSeg]

48. I remember 2008

and Hillary really got pissed at Bill when he tried to intervene. There was something about him editing one of her speeches and she was not a happy camper.

[Koinos]

49. Strategically, why would Bill mention his choice unless he knows Hillary has someone else in mind?

[PatSeg]

53. Actually, I think that makes more sense

I believe they are playing with the media, which give Hillary more exposure and adds to the anticipation.

[Koinos]

61. Leaking Kaine and Vilsack may lower expectations.

Why did Bill go public with his preference?

Why did Bernie replace Warren in the keynote speaking spot? Remember that Bernie said that Hillary should choose Warren.

Why did Warren ask Joe Kennedy III to introduce her (perhaps) at the convention? Joe Kennedy has already stated that if Warren is the VP pick, he would run for her senate seat.

I don't think Hillary is still on the fence. I believe she has already made up her mind. Pence has a lot to do with her choice.

It doesn't seem to me that all this melodrama points to Kaine. But I am probably wrong.

And Hillary had one hell of a good time campaigning with Warren. I don't think I ever saw Hillary so charged up as she was at that joint appearance.

But the big surprise could even be Biden.

[PatSeg]

65. Whoa, you've really thought this out

That is quite impressive.

You are right, Hillary was so energized when she was on stage with Warren. I would have never thought the two would be a good fit, but fed off of each other beautifully.

I'm also thinking that Hillary wants to be a historical figure as the first woman president and the first female administration would be even more exciting.

As for Joe, I think he has other plans. Eight years as VP is more than enough.

[Koinos]

70. Check out Al Giordano's line of reasoning about Hillary's VP choice.

He numbers his points and refers to them as a "trail of bread crumbs."

https://twitter.com/AlGiordano

All very interesting speculation. But only speculation, of course.

[PatSeg]

73. Now my head is spinning

I really had forgotten about Sherrod Brown, maybe because so few people have mentioned him. He is someone I've liked for a really long time, but I doubt he can generate the excitement that I think the campaign is going for.

I am quite sure they are playing games with us and the media. There are no accidents in Hillary world.

[Koinos]

74. Yes, they are really playing quite a shell game.

And every pundit thinks he or she has it figured out. Lots of clues, and many of them are "head fakes."

Giordano keeps saying that Biden is the one to watch for the "tell." Biden may do or say something that sends a signal to those who know how to interpret it.

I have to say, Democrats are a whole lot more professional and fun to follow than Republicans. They work together as a team, even when they choose a VP.

By the way, Joseph Kennedy III is thirty-six years old and eligible to be VP as well. But let's not go there.

[PatSeg]

75. Oh yes

Democrats are much better at all this. They just need to improve their messaging. They tend to make everything too complicated and nuanced for the average voter.

That brings us back to Elizabeth Warren. She can explain complex economics in a way that anyone can understand AND actually enjoy it. She would be a great "explainer". Her teaching skills are exceptional. Bill Clinton has "the gift", but best to keep him in the background this time around.

[bigtree]

21. k&r

[jcgoldie]

22. I'm with Her and Her nt

[OnDoutside]

23. As conspiracy theories go, I like it !

[AgadorSparticus]

24. I hope you're right! You bring up really good points.

[still_one]

26. That would destroy the talking idiots for a loop. Their assessment would be wrong again. I think

the two would be a power house

[lillypaddle]

29. Oh Please! Oh Please!

[yallerdawg]

30. If Hillary gets Elizabeth as her VP pick...

we will be one united Democratic Party for sure!

[MineralMan]

34. That is very interesting, indeed.

I'm holding my breath in anticipation. Hillary will choose whoever she wishes, but Warren would be a good choice, especially given the ugliness the Republicans are putting forward.

[awake]

37. Please Please be so

Elizabeth is the best pick, just watch how all of the other choices for VP did when they campaigned with Hillary, only Elizabeth fired up the crowd, Hillary even felt more comfortable on stage with Elizabeth. Elizabeth is the only person to to have been able to throw Trump off his game. Elizabeth will be the attack dog and Hillary will stay above the fray sticking to the high road.

[kwolf68]

39. Yes love Liz

Doubt it'll be her, but what a gutsy move by Hillary if it is. And I'd be in like flynn.

[retrowire]

40. it better be warren.

It's important to me as a Bernie supporter that Hillary chooses a veep that does NOT take kindly to wall st.

[groundloop]

41. I know Warren would be great, but IMO she can do more good in the Senate

I have nothing whatsoever against Elizabeth Warren, I'll support her 100% at whatever she decides to do, but the pragmatic side of me says that she should stay in the Senate and move into a leadership role there when we retake it.

[Expecting Rain]

43. I'm lighting candles

Please. Please. Please.

[SDJay]

50. Just My Gut...

but IMO if it's Warren the election will be such an ass-kicking up and down the ticket that the temporary loss of her seat in MA for at-most 160 days would be more than counterbalanced with taking back the senate and perhaps even the house along with a bunch of state-level seats.

In other words, naming Warren could possibly do more good 'for' the senate than she would do in it.

[liberal N proud]

51. That would be another shame on the media as they are chasing 3 different candidates

I think we will know by noon on Friday.

Steal the Trump post convention thunder which may be more like a belly flop in Lake Erie.

[KPN]

52. Maybe they'll meet on the tarmac.

[B Calm]

54. The party would be united if she does choose her!

[jcgoldie]

58. Right

And after watching the RNC shitshow in Cleveland unfold, party unity has to look pretty nice.

[workinclasszero]

55. Hmm.....

Coincidence or...?

[Setsuna1972]

57. Please let it be so

Or Senator Brown from Ohio ! Brown would be another kick right on the teeth after Trump totally disrespecting Ohio !

[Demsrule86]

63. That would be so awesome...nt

[whistler162]

64. But, Florida is where Admiral Starvidis is from

http://fletcher.tufts.edu/Fletcher_Directory/Directory/Faculty%20Profile?personkey=FB321449-8895-4924-830F-A89EFB4B96B0

[State the Obvious]

76. AGREE!

After seeing his TED Talk on the many facets of global security, I though he would be an excellent choice. Hillary wants a VP capable of leading the country through a crisis if she could not. In his video, he uses the phrase "build bridges, not walls" which is an expression Hillary often uses as well. Check out this video (and read his bio). He has more to offer than you think.

He is from Florida and speaks BOTH Spanish and French

[zenabby]

68. Why does Hillary need a general?

She is already considered a Hawk and she has tons of foreign policy experience. She has repeatedly said this person should be able to step up to be president - the General has that capacity? She needs a strong energizing domestic policy expert - Warren or Baccerra would be best option imho.

[Orsino]

69. That would raise my enthusiasm.

Trump and Pence are going to be generating daily gaffes, but in a campaign against two women those gaffes are going to be more immediately and painfully obvious.

I would like to see two old white dumbass dudes lose to a pair of women with actual qualifications.

[democrattotheend]

71. Mine too

I am going to support Hillary no matter what, but I will be a lot more enthused if she picks someone like Warren, Sherrod Brown, or Tom Perez than someone like Kaine or Vilsack.

[ismnotwasm]

72. I want it to be Warren, or part of me does

But I understand the reasons not. Every time I consider this ticket, though, I feel positively euphoric.

[Qutzupalotl]

77. That would be an exciting ticket!

I can't wait for the Warren/Pence debate.

Link: http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/hillary-clinton-and-elizabeth-warren-will-both-be-in-florida-this-weekend/25327/

I'd also be happy with Gavin Newsom or Sherrod Brown. But Warren would bring a lot of Bernie supporters back. Picking her would also keep the TPP off the table (unless it gets rammed through in the lame duck session).

[Tatiana]

78. I hope it's Warren, but if not, I hope it's someone like Al Franken. n/t

[The empressof all]

79. Oh Jeeze...Don't Fricken do this to Me!

My eyes started welling up! My heart started pounding.......If this happens you will hear this Bernie supporter screaming in joy to Kingdom Come....

But once again....I fear...I will just be left with that nagging empty space


Gaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

[forgotmylogin]

80. Wicked.

Two witches, one perceived as "good" and the other perceived as "wicked" conspire to overthrow the dim witted manipulator and manipulated "Wizard of Oz" in his crusade to dumb down talking animals so they become a subservient underclass like he knows them from his original homeland.