Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:02 PM
morningfog (18,115 posts)
I stand with the Honorable Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court
Justice Ginsberg is a stalwart and a national treasure. She is an impeccable jurist with a devotion social justice and a brilliant and tenacious mind. She does not give up and she has seen her efforts and positions vindicated over time.
And she was absolutely right in her criticisms of Trump and even more in the right when she refused to back down after his pathetic little tweet. He tweets, she crafts legal arguments that have advanced the rights of women, minorities and persons of the LGBT community probably more than any other individual of the past 50 years. She was right to raise the warning flag against trump's candidacy. She knew there would be public push back and she, as always, made the reasoned decision. At the right moment she said the right thing. Trump has already attacked the judiciary, signaling that a trump administration could be a very real threat to our function of government, our separation of powers. We've seen despots and demoguages rise to power and begin by attacking the judges. "The first thing we do, we kill all the lawyers." Trump crosses lines regularly. He's a megalomaniac and gets a little tiny hard on from doing so. But the lines he crosses are necessary lines. We can leave nothing to chance. Everyone in a position to make the media listen should be sounding the alarms. Thank you Justice Ginsberg.
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morningfog | Jul 2016 | OP |
villager | Jul 2016 | #1 | |
tallahasseedem | Jul 2016 | #2 | |
morningfog | Jul 2016 | #3 | |
Hekate | Jul 2016 | #22 | |
tallahasseedem | Jul 2016 | #30 | |
Uponthegears | Jul 2016 | #4 | |
MohRokTah | Jul 2016 | #5 | |
AgadorSparticus | Jul 2016 | #6 | |
TeddyR | Jul 2016 | #7 | |
morningfog | Jul 2016 | #8 | |
TeddyR | Jul 2016 | #9 | |
morningfog | Jul 2016 | #10 | |
LuckyLib | Jul 2016 | #15 | |
niyad | Jul 2016 | #11 | |
Raster | Jul 2016 | #12 | |
L. Coyote | Jul 2016 | #20 | |
seabeyond | Jul 2016 | #13 | |
Logical | Jul 2016 | #17 | |
seabeyond | Jul 2016 | #25 | |
morningfog | Jul 2016 | #27 | |
3catwoman3 | Jul 2016 | #24 | |
seabeyond | Jul 2016 | #26 | |
Hekate | Jul 2016 | #34 | |
Gothmog | Jul 2016 | #14 | |
Logical | Jul 2016 | #16 | |
DemonGoddess | Jul 2016 | #18 | |
L. Coyote | Jul 2016 | #19 | |
63splitwindow | Jul 2016 | #21 | |
Hekate | Jul 2016 | #23 | |
mcar | Jul 2016 | #28 | |
LiberalFighter | Jul 2016 | #29 | |
NWCorona | Jul 2016 | #31 | |
geek tragedy | Jul 2016 | #32 | |
Wayburn | Jul 2016 | #33 | |
Hekate | Jul 2016 | #35 |
Response to morningfog (Original post)
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:08 PM
villager (26,001 posts)
1. As do I. nt
Response to morningfog (Original post)
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:08 PM
tallahasseedem (6,716 posts)
2. I encourage everyone to watch Chris Hayes segment...
with the author of "The Honorable RBG" on tonight's show. It was very informative and gave great insight as to why she said what she did. Essentially knowing Trump would dismantle the court...
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Response to tallahasseedem (Reply #2)
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:12 PM
morningfog (18,115 posts)
3. Exactly. I haven't seen that, but he's a real threat to the courts.
That is, quite literally, the worst thing a presidential candidate can be.
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Response to tallahasseedem (Reply #2)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 01:21 AM
Hekate (82,854 posts)
22. The author gave a splendid analysis of RBG's state of mind: "Incandescent with anger...
...at the normalization of Trump's candidacy." She's been all about the rules her whole life, amd here's this buffoon smashing everything in his path.
I stand with Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg. |
Response to Hekate (Reply #22)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:43 AM
tallahasseedem (6,716 posts)
30. +1
I thought it made complete sense and I stand with her as well.
All of the vapors over this makes me sick. What about the justices who were hanging out with donors, right wing politicians, bashing Obama, etc. Oh, that's right...it's only okay if you're a Republican. |
Response to morningfog (Original post)
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:21 PM
Uponthegears (1,499 posts)
4. Should I mention
That the now-deceased Antonin Scalia gave literally dozens, if not hundreds, of political speeches and NO ONE SAID A THING.
Ginsburg makes a couple of quips about a psychotic charlatan and we see "Democrats" talking about recusal. WTF? |
Response to morningfog (Original post)
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:26 PM
MohRokTah (15,429 posts)
5. Scalia regularly chimed in on political issues and politicians and nobody said shit about it.
Let a woman Associate Justice express an opinion about the most sexist asshole nominee for president in history and white men on the right proclaim the end of the Supreme Court!
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Response to morningfog (Original post)
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:27 PM
AgadorSparticus (7,963 posts)
6. I stand with the notorious RBG as well.
Response to morningfog (Original post)
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:28 PM
TeddyR (2,493 posts)
7. Absolutely not
The only people supporting her statements are a few folks who don't care that this is a black eye for the Supreme Court. Both the NY Times and Washington Post editorial boards say she made a mistake, as do numerous folks who follow the court. I haven't seen a single reputable news source defend what she said. She simply provided a talking point for Trump and fodder for those who question the legitimacy of the Supreme Court. The court should be the most apolitical entity in this country.
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Response to TeddyR (Reply #7)
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:32 PM
morningfog (18,115 posts)
8. She is sounding alarms they have found the courage to sound yet.
This is no black eye for the court. Ginsberg is an able and serious jurist.
No one operates under the illusion that the Court is apolitical. It is where all politics eventually converge. Everything about it is political, as it should be. If Justice Ginsberg sees it necessary to share her opinion again, I trust she will. |
Response to morningfog (Reply #8)
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:34 PM
TeddyR (2,493 posts)
9. No serious political or court analyst
Supports her actions. She made a mistake that hopefully won't be repeated.
On edit, here's the latest from the Post again saying she made a mistake and rejecting the arguments I've seen here. https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/07/13/the-ginsburg-counterarguments/?hpid=hp_hp-cards_mhp-card-posteverything%3Ahomepage%2Fcard |
Response to TeddyR (Reply #9)
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:41 PM
morningfog (18,115 posts)
10. She was in the right:
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-07-13/justice-ginsburg-was-right-to-deride-trumps-war-on-intellect
Please remember this if the race gets tight. |
Response to morningfog (Reply #8)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 12:11 AM
LuckyLib (6,741 posts)
15. Well said. Someone has to speak out about this idiot, since the M$M is unwilling, and too many
powerful forces in this country are giving this goon a free ride.
And your statement: "No one operates under the illusion that the Court is apolitical. It is where all politics eventually converge. Everything about it is political, as it should be." is exactly on target. |
Response to TeddyR (Reply #7)
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:43 PM
niyad (98,882 posts)
11. unless you criticized scalia for his dozens of political statements, please know
that your statements about RBG are pure hypocrisy
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Response to TeddyR (Reply #7)
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 11:54 PM
Raster (20,982 posts)
12. Bullshit!
I stand with Associate Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, and I appreciate her honesty and applaud her courage to speak up.
"The court should be the most apolitical entity in this country."
Yes it should, but has not been so since the Raygun administration. "...Reputable news source..." We're you actually able to type that with a straight face? |
Response to Raster (Reply #12)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 12:45 AM
L. Coyote (51,127 posts)
20. ^^^ THIS ^^^ n/t
Response to morningfog (Original post)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 12:06 AM
seabeyond (110,159 posts)
13. Who was the justice that called Obama "liar"during the state of the union address?
Response to seabeyond (Reply #13)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 12:16 AM
Logical (22,457 posts)
17. And remember how terrible we thought that was? This is the same. Nt
Response to Logical (Reply #17)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 07:18 AM
seabeyond (110,159 posts)
25. Keeping it in perspective, but you are right. Suppose to be a political. Nt
Response to Logical (Reply #17)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 08:27 AM
morningfog (18,115 posts)
27. That was congressman during the SOTU.
Not analogous.
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Response to seabeyond (Reply #13)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 02:42 AM
3catwoman3 (21,795 posts)
24. Ir was a congressman who did that.
Joe Wilson.
Justice Alito was visibly shaking his head over something President Obama said, and mouthed the words, "Not true," but did not speak aloud. |
Response to 3catwoman3 (Reply #24)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 07:18 AM
seabeyond (110,159 posts)
26. Thanks. I couldn't remember exactly what it was. Nt
Response to seabeyond (Reply #13)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 12:10 PM
Hekate (82,854 posts)
34. Congressman. It was Justice Alito who shook his head in denial at Obama's words.
Response to morningfog (Original post)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 12:10 AM
Gothmog (126,689 posts)
14. I stand with RBG
Response to morningfog (Original post)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 12:15 AM
Logical (22,457 posts)
16. No, she should not have said it. Love her but she was wrong! Nt
Response to morningfog (Original post)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 12:20 AM
DemonGoddess (4,640 posts)
18. K&R!
Response to morningfog (Original post)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 12:40 AM
L. Coyote (51,127 posts)
19. And Trump responded by illustrating her point, he childishly began name calling her & insulting her
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Response to morningfog (Original post)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 12:56 AM
63splitwindow (2,657 posts)
21. Yep. K & R.
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Response to morningfog (Original post)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 01:24 AM
Hekate (82,854 posts)
23. KnR. Fear the Frill.
Response to morningfog (Original post)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:23 AM
mcar (40,574 posts)
28. Me too
She is a national treasure!
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Response to morningfog (Original post)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:40 AM
LiberalFighter (45,578 posts)
29. The United States is her court.
And she is not going to take any disrespect from a buffoon.
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Response to morningfog (Original post)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 10:22 AM
NWCorona (8,541 posts)
31. CNN is reporting that Ginseng has said that she regrets her comments on trump
Response to morningfog (Original post)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 10:49 AM
geek tragedy (68,868 posts)
32. And I stand with you nt
Response to morningfog (Original post)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 11:39 AM
Wayburn (24 posts)
33. She was right in her opinion but wrong to say it.
Justices should not appear political or pre biased against anyone.
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Response to morningfog (Original post)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 12:16 PM
Hekate (82,854 posts)
35. IOKYAR.The RightWingers on the Court are politically active. Virginia Thomas is up to her neck in it
Who calls for their recusal or apologies? Crickets.
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