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Ridiculous Jill Stein's Ridiculous Reaction to Sanders Endorsement (Original Post) Democrats Ascendant Jul 2016 OP
In what way? peace13 Jul 2016 #1
If you cant see what a load full of bullshit hyperbole she is spewing... JaneyVee Jul 2016 #11
I can see all too well. She makes it understandable Hortensis Jul 2016 #20
Great word, Hortensis PJMcK Jul 2016 #26
The phrase is some lingerer locked in my white matter Hortensis Jul 2016 #28
Misrepresenting Bernie and promoting a strawman version of HRC emulatorloo Jul 2016 #12
Really? Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #22
Bernie didn't have to do anything... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #2
"But it just doesn't pass the laugh test" TwilightZone Jul 2016 #3
Ooooooooo. You are correct. Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #35
What exactly makes her qualified to be president anyway? Renew Deal Jul 2016 #4
It amazes me how people of a certain ilk.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2016 #17
What made Donald Trump think he's qualified? PJMcK Jul 2016 #27
Trump didn't think he would win Renew Deal Jul 2016 #37
One day she is willing to step aside for him to take over the Green Party... NCTraveler Jul 2016 #5
^ This is why she's ridiculous Democrats Ascendant Jul 2016 #9
"I will quibble that there are that many sane members of the GOP" NCTraveler Jul 2016 #10
Stein and the Greens were hoping that Senator Sanders would not honor his word Gothmog Jul 2016 #6
Exactly! Democrats Ascendant Jul 2016 #15
When you are trailing behind the LIBERTARIAN party... Else You Are Mad Jul 2016 #7
She's an opponent democrattotheend Jul 2016 #8
It's not strange that's she competing, Democrats Ascendant Jul 2016 #13
She wanted Bernie to run as the Green candidate for President Haveadream Jul 2016 #14
She's a batshit crazy loon, only relevant to other batshit crazy loons. giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #16
You nailed it workinclasszero Jul 2016 #18
Fuck Ralph Nader (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2016 #19
Double Fuck Ralph Nader nt Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #23
back to 2% with her MFM008 Jul 2016 #21
I believe it is less than than rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #36
But She's Somebody's Sister. MineralMan Jul 2016 #24
I listened to about two minutes of one of those songs. TwilightZone Jul 2016 #29
I listened my way through about three of them, before MineralMan Jul 2016 #32
Predictions for 2016 Jim Lane Jul 2016 #43
"birds in the sky...they fly" Lance Bass esquire Jul 2016 #44
Jill who? workinclasszero Jul 2016 #25
the green party is not a serious party rdking647 Jul 2016 #30
That's what infuriates me about them anigbrowl Jul 2016 #40
Any respect I had for this woman was tossed after her Mother's Day comment on Hillary LynneSin Jul 2016 #31
She also said that Hillary's first act as president "might" be to start a nuclear war with Russia. TwilightZone Jul 2016 #33
Who? nt jcgoldie Jul 2016 #34
Do everyone a favor, cut and paste 3-4 paragraphs of the article with the gist of it into your post TeamPooka Jul 2016 #38
"Doctor" Jill "Obama is worse than Bush on every issue" Stein? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2016 #39
I sure hope Bernie doesn't have a pet bunny Tarc Jul 2016 #41
She would doom us to Trump if it meant that she could get 5% and continue running... SaschaHM Jul 2016 #42
It's not a ridiculous reaction from her point of view. Jim Lane Jul 2016 #45
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #46
Planning to vote third party are you? Hekate Jul 2016 #47
 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
11. If you cant see what a load full of bullshit hyperbole she is spewing...
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 02:41 PM
Jul 2016

Then you probably wouldnt understand why either.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. I can see all too well. She makes it understandable
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:11 PM
Jul 2016

why Sanders hasn't returned any of her phone calls or communiques during this election. For me at least, a little taste of that kind of self-delusional thinking, and the irrational, immoral hostility it inevitably produces, constitutes a surfeit.

I wouldn't trust a person like that to run an animal shelter for fear she'd take a dislike to some poor animal, and here she is a technically real candidate for President of the United States.

PJMcK

(21,998 posts)
26. Great word, Hortensis
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:33 PM
Jul 2016

Surfeit
noun
an excessive amount of something.
"a surfeit of food and drink"

verb
cause (someone) to desire no more of something as a result of having consumed or done it to excess.

I've heard the word but never looked it up. Thanks!

ETA: I agree with your eloquently expressed impression of Ms. Stein's statement.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. The phrase is some lingerer locked in my white matter
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:41 PM
Jul 2016

for 40 years, while memory of its origin, probably from some college assignment, is long gone. I like it better than "makes me want to puke," or some such thing, though, so I'm glad it stuck.

Demsrule86

(68,469 posts)
22. Really?
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:19 PM
Jul 2016

Jillie is a spoiler....and the Greens are a waste of time...they never accomplish anything good.

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
2. Bernie didn't have to do anything...
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 02:24 PM
Jul 2016

and he did with an a speech for the ages. She just made herself even more irrelevant.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
17. It amazes me how people of a certain ilk....
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:01 PM
Jul 2016

....will trumpet one man's public service record....mayor, congressman, Senator....and hers, multiple times failed at ever level except a freaking town council seat....as of there's little difference and one would be as good as the other.

PJMcK

(21,998 posts)
27. What made Donald Trump think he's qualified?
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:37 PM
Jul 2016

Oops, I forgot. Donald Trump is insane.

Jill Stein is not, however. But I guess it takes a ton of ego and another ton of fantasy for her to think she could run this country.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
5. One day she is willing to step aside for him to take over the Green Party...
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 02:32 PM
Jul 2016

The next she is doing this?

And you wonder why they have problems growing. I'm all for additional parties but the two major parties have gobbled up anything even remotely resembling sanity leaving us with..... Stein.

9. ^ This is why she's ridiculous
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 02:37 PM
Jul 2016

I'm in full agreement with your assessment, though I will quibble that there are that many sane members of the GOP

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
10. "I will quibble that there are that many sane members of the GOP"
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 02:39 PM
Jul 2016

I really thought about leaving that out. lol. But it does relate to the bigger picture.

Gothmog

(144,939 posts)
6. Stein and the Greens were hoping that Senator Sanders would not honor his word
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 02:32 PM
Jul 2016

Senator Sanders promised to support the nominee of the Democratic Party and to work to defeat Donald Trump. Senator Sanders is a man of his word and honored his promises.

In addition, Senator Sanders was very strong in his endorsement of Sec. Clinton. I applaud Senator Sanders for his actions and I am amused by the disappointed by Stein and the Green party

15. Exactly!
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 02:49 PM
Jul 2016

Sanders is a man who is true to his word, and this is one of the primary reasons he had such a wide following. Stein's cheap, empty, Trump-like pandering misses the point of the Sanders revolution entirely.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
7. When you are trailing behind the LIBERTARIAN party...
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 02:32 PM
Jul 2016

Please shut up. The green party has no chance at all stop trying to win over Sanders supporters -- you won't gain many.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
8. She's an opponent
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 02:33 PM
Jul 2016

She is competing with Hillary for Bernie supporters' votes. I don't see what is strange about that.

I do agree with her about rank choice voting. I think it would be useful in the primaries as well. A few weeks ago, I had to choose in my Congressional primary between voting for the one I really wanted and voting for the one with the best chance to defeat the candidate I didn't like. Instant runoff voting would have enabled me to really have my voice heard.

13. It's not strange that's she competing,
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 02:42 PM
Jul 2016

It's that she's as bad at understanding and courting Sanders supporters as Trump. Doesn't get them at all, in my opinion.

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
14. She wanted Bernie to run as the Green candidate for President
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 02:48 PM
Jul 2016

And, had he done so, she would be the obvious choice for VP. Attaching herself to him has given her much more visibility and credibility. It is no surprise that she would use this moment to take advantage of Bernie's disappointed supporters for herself. As long as they work to prevent Trump or any of the GOP from getting into office, it is not a problem. If they aid and abet a GOP majority, they are actively working to oppose progressive goals and what Bernie wants.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
36. I believe it is less than than
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:58 PM
Jul 2016

I think the Greens got less than 1% in the last couple of presidential elections.

Laughable.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
24. But She's Somebody's Sister.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:26 PM
Jul 2016
https://somebodyssister-steinselcer.bandcamp.com/

Folk/pop/rock vocalist with the band. She's also an MD, for whatever that's worth. What she's not is in any way qualified to be POTUS. Not in anyone's dream.

She'll get some votes, I suppose. Gary Johnson's going to do a lot better, though, if Trump is the GOP nominee. Flocks of Republicans are going to vote Libertarian. That will help our nominee win.

TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
29. I listened to about two minutes of one of those songs.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:45 PM
Jul 2016

If she mumbles through the rest of it like she did those two minutes, it kind of indirectly explains a lot.

As for votes, she got 0.35% in 2012. She might get 1% this time. I agree that Johnson will do better, though I'd be surprised if he gets more than about 3-4%. He'll do better than his 1% from 2012, however, thanks to Trump.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
32. I listened my way through about three of them, before
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:49 PM
Jul 2016

thinking, "Well...nevermind."

She sings in tune, but that's about it. Not much oomph in her voice. I suppose they got a few freebie gigs here and there and did their own recordings. It's a lot of small garage bands out there. They're fun to be in, but never go too far, usually.

Somebody's Sister is like somebody's sister. Kinda cute, but, you know...

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
43. Predictions for 2016
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 07:46 PM
Jul 2016

Given the record-high unfavorables of the major-party nominees, I think the minor parties will do better than you project. The Libertarians have a shot at hitting 5% to qualify for federal matching funds. The Greens might well do better than 1% though I'm inclined to think they'll fall short of the 2.74% they got in 2000 with Nader as the nominee.

I further predict that neither will get to 15% in the pre-election polling, and therefore neither will be in the debates.

 

Lance Bass esquire

(671 posts)
44. "birds in the sky...they fly"
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 07:47 PM
Jul 2016

talk about phoning it in on lyrical content.

I was waiting for them to sing...Have fun in the sun when you run with a gun.

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
30. the green party is not a serious party
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:45 PM
Jul 2016

I live in Austin. The most Liberal part of Texas.

afaik there are no green party candidates for state or US rep running.

If they cant be bothered to run a candidate in Austin they certainly arent a serious party

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
40. That's what infuriates me about them
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 04:36 PM
Jul 2016

Being a Euro I'd like to be able to support the green party, they line up with a bunch of issues I care about. But they have virtually no presence at the local level and when I last talked to some green supporters (in 2012) they were all focused on the Presidential election election and seemed to have little interest in campaigning for state offices etc. etc.. Honestly, I think they're just trying to break the threshold that would get them public funding and have no interest in politics beyond that. If they did surely they could have elected one person to the house or senate by now, or got one governorship, or something.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
31. Any respect I had for this woman was tossed after her Mother's Day comment on Hillary
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:46 PM
Jul 2016

I agree w/ Hillary, it's time to elect a woman for President. But I want that President to reflect the values of being a mother. #MothersDay
— Dr. Jill Stein (@DrJillStein) May 8, 2016


I respect there are many criticisms about Hillary Clinton. But as far as I can tell she has been an amazing mother. Chelsea Clinton has turned out to be an amazing young woman. To diss Hillary on Mother's day with that above quote pretty much made me realize that Jill Stein is an ignorant woman who will stoop to incredibly low levels to try and siphon off a few votes. I can honestly say I have more respect for Ralph Nader than I do this woman. (and that's saying alot since the only respect I ever had for Nader was ages ago when he helped to make automobiles safer. That's about it)

TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
33. She also said that Hillary's first act as president "might" be to start a nuclear war with Russia.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:49 PM
Jul 2016

I already thought she was a little unhinged, but that pretty much confirmed it for me, personally.

TeamPooka

(24,209 posts)
38. Do everyone a favor, cut and paste 3-4 paragraphs of the article with the gist of it into your post
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 04:25 PM
Jul 2016

so I don't have to give Politico web traffic to find out what your talking about.
That just helps them and Politico sucks.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
42. She would doom us to Trump if it meant that she could get 5% and continue running...
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 07:01 PM
Jul 2016

as the perennial Green party candidate with public funding.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
45. It's not a ridiculous reaction from her point of view.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 07:50 PM
Jul 2016

The big question for the Greens is how many disaffected Bernie supporters they can pull in. Stein's statement isn't aimed at Clinton voters. Instead, her goal was to walk the fine line between disagreeing with Bernie and nevertheless trying to appeal to his supporters.

A non-ridiculous statement would have been "I've come to see the folly of third-party politics" but I didn't really expect that from her.

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