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Mon Jun 27, 2016, 06:36 AM

 

The RNC Plans To Turn Bernie Backers Against Hillary Clinton’s VP Pick

In a strategy memo provided to The Huffington Post, the committee outlines how it will attack the top candidates.

06/26/2016 08:00 pm ET | Updated 10 hours ago
Sam Stein Senior Politics Editor, The Huffington Post

The Republican National Committee is planning to cleave liberal voters away from Hillary Clinton as part of a campaign to counteract her forthcoming pick of a vice presidential running mate.

In a detailed memo outlining its strategy to combat Clinton’s VP choice, the committee says it will frame the selection as both a cynical play to certain constituencies and as an emotional letdown for voters who backed Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in the Democratic primary.

The goals, the memo says, are to “drive wedges between these top contenders and either Clinton and/or traditional Democrat constituencies, such as labor, environmentalists, and gun control advocates, and other traditional left-wing constituencies;” and “(w)here applicable, frame the choice as an insult to the large, deep base of Bernie Sanders supporters who are struggling with the notion of supporting Hillary Clinton as the presumptive Democrat nominee.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/clinton-vp-choice_us_577027f7e4b0f1683239e34a

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Reply The RNC Plans To Turn Bernie Backers Against Hillary Clinton’s VP Pick (Original post)
workinclasszero Jun 2016 OP
leftofcool Jun 2016 #1
Hortensis Jun 2016 #12
JRLeft Jun 2016 #18
peace13 Jun 2016 #2
workinclasszero Jun 2016 #4
peace13 Jun 2016 #7
workinclasszero Jun 2016 #14
Vinca Jun 2016 #3
leftofcool Jun 2016 #8
Vinca Jun 2016 #9
leftofcool Jun 2016 #13
bettyellen Jun 2016 #19
AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #22
bettyellen Jun 2016 #23
AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #28
bettyellen Jun 2016 #29
AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #30
bettyellen Jun 2016 #31
Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #35
bettyellen Jun 2016 #39
Vinca Jun 2016 #32
bettyellen Jun 2016 #33
Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #36
bettyellen Jun 2016 #38
TwilightZone Jun 2016 #27
rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #5
BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #6
tanyev Jun 2016 #10
workinclasszero Jun 2016 #15
TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #11
workinclasszero Jun 2016 #16
Her Sister Jun 2016 #17
nolabels Jun 2016 #24
TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #25
democrattotheend Jun 2016 #20
tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #21
La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #26
Sunlei Jun 2016 #34
Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #37

Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 06:39 AM

1. I doubt he can do that

Anyone who could be wooed to vote for Trump was going to vote for him over Hillary anyway.

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Response to leftofcool (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 07:13 AM

12. They think portraying VP choice as an INSULT to

Bernie voters can work. After all, right or wrong, many are already offended, so the GOP already has a weak point to exploit. And remember, it's not all about Hillary v. Trump: when voters just stay home the other side wins up and down their whole ballot.

If the GOP proceeds with this, we should see any effects right here in the condensed political atmosphere of DU. Choosing Warren would neutralize it, of course, while Tim Kaine, who is definitely a moderate liberal who routinely tries to reach consensuses across the aisle, would probably generate angry responses. In any case, an "insulted" theme shouldn't be hard to pick up on--if it occurred.

Btw, WaPo just polled SBSers who vote for Trump at 8%, 81% for Hillary, with presumably the remaining 11% undecided.

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Response to leftofcool (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 10:28 AM

18. I think the idea is to get us to stay home. It won't work though.

 

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 06:39 AM

2. I wouldn't worry.

 

That group couldn't plan their way out of a paper bag unless it was to sit and do nothing about something important!

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Response to peace13 (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 06:43 AM

4. Its funny while the RNC plays stupid games their candidate

 

is in free fall in the polls and most republicans don't even want to show their face at their convention because they don't want to be associated with the Trump train wreck!

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 06:49 AM

7. Exactly.

 

Even the public cringes from his name!

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Response to peace13 (Reply #7)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 07:14 AM

14. Why would the public cringe from his name? Oh wait.....

 

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 06:42 AM

3. She could always call their bluff and choose Bernie for VP.

As much as Hillary supporters still dislike Bernie, that is her guaranteed way of capturing Bernie voters.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 06:50 AM

8. She already has 81% of sanders voters

If the rest won't come on board then that is on them. Sanders is not a good VP choice. Trump is already using sanders own words against Hillary. She needs someone who has supported her from the beginning.

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Response to leftofcool (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 06:52 AM

9. Then Warren. She needs someone who will generate some excitement.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 07:14 AM

13. Warren is a good choice.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 05:37 PM

19. Hillary needs a VP who has aways been respectful of her, so nope.

 

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #19)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 06:14 PM

22. No she doesn't

 

If that were the criteria, she never would have been chosen as SOS.

Obama 'got over it' and chose her.

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #22)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 08:20 PM

23. You don't run for Secretary of State, you get appointed.

 

Of course grown ups work together after having disagreements, but run with a VP who strongly inferred she was corrupt? Not happening, it's laughable to consider.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #23)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 09:42 PM

28. Point being Obama got over it

 

I could post some of the things she said about Obama in 08, but it would be a TOS violation. I'm sure Hillary would get over it just as easily as Obama did.

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #28)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 09:48 PM

29. After he won the election he can be forgiving, HRC cannot run along side someone who has insulted

 

Both her and the bulk of working Denocrats.
They'd use his words against him and her. Not going to happen anyway, the idea is ridiculous.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #29)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 09:54 PM

30. She is a big girl, she can do whatever she feels like

 

And he didn't insult anyone. There is no convincing a partisan.

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #30)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 10:46 PM

31. he would never be considered VP afterteashing the party and her- its never worked that way before ..

 

And she does if need him. He could drag Demos down. Not going to happen.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #31)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 09:36 AM

35. Your words when contrasted with the fact that Bernie won my State by 12% in a closed

 

Democratic primary seem to indicate a less than full presentation of the facts. Your words seem to denigrate the Democrats of this State and the millions of others in other States who voted for Bernie in our Democratic Primary. He trashed no one and his criticisms of the Party are valid and vital. You on the other hand seem to detest the voters in all the States that voted for Bernie. If your view was in fact the view of a strong majority of Democrats we'd not be having this conversation at all. She did not sweep the table. She did not come close to winning my State. Not even close. This is one of the most Democratic States in the Union.

Of course I'm used to being critical of this Party because it took years of righteous criticism to move this Party to support LGBT equality, years to move our presumptive nominee to that simple and basic support for equality. Those who said the Party was just fine back then failed the LGBT community, those who criticized the Party did their duty.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #35)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 10:18 AM

39. I trashed no one. I simply pointed out VP is a supporting role- and supporting is something SBS has

 

Refused to do. You do the math on this. It's a national election- wish all states were like Oregon but they are not. wish sanders had not tarred everyone taking contributions but it's done now and loads of people have bought the "they're all corrupt" bullshit. We've moved past that nonsense.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #19)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 06:39 AM

32. I sure hope you never consider a career in politics.

Bernie ran the tamest campaign against Hillary I've ever seen a candidate run. You seem to think Hillary is some tender flower when she's the exact opposite. Disrespect is what you're seeing now from Trump.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #32)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 08:23 AM

33. he's been accusing most dems of being corrupt, so nope

 

he does not belong on the ticket in what is basically a support role. Have worked in politics and had some pretty sweet victories, but thanks for judging me without knowing a thing.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #33)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 09:40 AM

36. Then why are you trash talking all the Bernie States and voters?

 

Denigrating entire States is a choice but not one I've seen any Democrat do in the past. Bernie Sanders won my State by 12 points, closed Primary. Oregon disagrees with you in strong majority.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #36)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 09:49 AM

38. I'm not trash talking any voters or any state. Mine too is more liberal than average but we have a

 

National election and we have a candidate that needs a supportive running mate. By literally withholding support Sanders has eliminated any chance he could have had at VP all on his own.
Did not say a thing about his voters- check yourself!

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Response to Vinca (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 09:31 PM

27. She needs someone who will wholeheartedly campaign for her and for other Democrats.

I don't think that's Bernie, and it has nothing to do with disliking him. It has to do with him not being a good fit for the task at hand.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 06:48 AM

6. All but the most impressionable won't be fooled

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 06:54 AM

10. They're just waiting for their strategy kit to arrive in the mail.

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Response to tanyev (Reply #10)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 07:15 AM

15. LOL

 

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 07:11 AM

11. The RNC had better tend to their own crisis.

They're the ones with real reason to worry.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 07:16 AM

16. No kidding

 

Trump is destroying their damned party while they play little political games.

Idiots.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 07:58 AM

17. times 1,000 !

 

A-holes

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 09:03 PM

24. That's not a crisis, it's a cause for celebration!

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Response to nolabels (Reply #24)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 09:06 PM

25. Actually, yes. Over here we call it a thing of beauty.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 05:41 PM

20. Didn't work much in 2008

When they nominated Palin in hopes of picking off some disgruntled Hillary supporters. I am not worried about the genuine progressives who supported Bernie going to Trump. I am worried about some of the blue collar "Reagan Democrats" who have become swing voters and are drawn to the populist, anti-trade message that both Bernie and Trump espouse more than Hillary.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 05:53 PM

21. Of course they are...with the media's help.

MSNBC was just having a field day with it and, of course, are still running with the narrative that Trump is turning this thing around with his speech tomorrow about economics, the TPP, etc.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 09:28 PM

26. Well let's hope people are not so easily manipulated

 

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 08:33 AM

34. Clinton/Sanders 2016 Smash Republican Dreams Away, retake Congress, a D speaker, a D SOS.....

All Four of those- President, VP, Speaker and SOS worthy of the Presidents chair and all Ds.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 09:44 AM

37. They need to talk about something other than the search for a person stupid enough to run with

 

Trump. What happens if a nominee can't get a VP to agree to run? Hard to believe they are lining up for that death march.

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