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Logical

(22,457 posts)
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 12:05 AM Nov 2012

Nate's update tonight, sort of a MAJOR DEAL what else changed.......

Nate moved Ohio from 'Likely Obama' to 'SAFE OBAMA'. This means he is no longer treating it s a competitive state!! It is an Obama state.

So the only 'Competitive States' left are Colorado, Florida, Iowa, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Virginia.

What is a bigger deal is if you add up only the 'Safe Obama' states it equals 271 Electoral Votes! This is HUGE!

You will notice all the 'Safe Obama' states have a greater than 90% chance of Obama winning!

If you add up the 'Safe Obama' states and the 'Likely Obama' states it equals 303 Electoral Votes!



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Nate's update tonight, sort of a MAJOR DEAL what else changed....... (Original Post) Logical Nov 2012 OP
Thank you! ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #1
Hugh, I say! yellowcanine Nov 2012 #2
Thank you, Logical Cha Nov 2012 #3
LOL MSMITH33156 Nov 2012 #4
Me too, surprised me! n-t Logical Nov 2012 #18
Safe EVs at 271 ---can you say "Coasting to victory"????? Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2012 #5
yep!!!!!! Logical Nov 2012 #6
GOD BLESS THE USA. LukeFL Nov 2012 #14
Movin' on Up! n/t courseofhistory Nov 2012 #7
Damn! Doctor Jack Nov 2012 #8
If Obama does not win Ohio it will be because of Jon Husted Bjorn Against Nov 2012 #9
Any forecast that Nate gave a 90% or more chance cleduc Nov 2012 #10
Good point! Now all we need to do is GOTV!!! Logical Nov 2012 #11
+10000 amborin Nov 2012 #13
Some should FAIL tevolit Nov 2012 #17
Awww, you're cute leftynyc Nov 2012 #21
But the poster is 100% correct. DireStrike Nov 2012 #22
Exceptions tevolit Nov 2012 #24
I can't find this data easily. I will try again later and if all else fails, write to Mr. Silver for DireStrike Nov 2012 #28
No worries: Obama is just as like to score unexpected wins fiorello Nov 2012 #23
hurrah! k and r amborin Nov 2012 #12
that's a BFD! faithfulcitizen Nov 2012 #15
Fuck yes budkin Nov 2012 #16
I don't understand how Nate can declare OHIO "Safe" for Obama TroyD Nov 2012 #19
Troy -- the handwringing is wearing a little thin at this point. abumbyanyothername Nov 2012 #29
But, what about West Virginia? Major Hogwash Nov 2012 #20
If it's any consolation, I voted in W.Va. Saturday Adenoid_Hynkel Nov 2012 #25
I think we will lose WV Logical Nov 2012 #26
Interesting that this geek is the new DU "Justin Bieber" Myrina Nov 2012 #27
No, it's not Nate personally. Nothing godlike there. Bake Nov 2012 #30
Doesn't add up. 303 + 286 = 589 > 538 total electoral votes. (>80% projection) What do I miss? Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #31
Say it with me: Landslide, landslide, landslide, landslide! FSogol Nov 2012 #32

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
9. If Obama does not win Ohio it will be because of Jon Husted
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 12:23 AM
Nov 2012

I don't trust Ohio is safe when a guy who does not want to count the votes is in charge of counting the votes, people need to make sure they vote because the more votes there are for Obama the harder it is for them to steal.

tevolit

(76 posts)
17. Some should FAIL
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 01:11 AM
Nov 2012

The 10% side should win 1 in ten if the forecast is accurate.

5% should come to pass 1 in 20.

So, how many predictions of between 5 and 10%, approximately, has Nate made?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
21. Awww, you're cute
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 06:05 AM
Nov 2012

Try a different board - you wont upset any people here. We'll just find you amusing - like a pet.

DireStrike

(6,452 posts)
22. But the poster is 100% correct.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 06:55 AM
Nov 2012

If a prediction of 90% doesn't mean a 10% failure rate, then it doesn't mean anything.

Nate would probably be dismayed if his numbers worked like that, and he'd change the formula. I want to look at it now, when I get home.

That 10% represents things like the polls being systematically biased for Obama (hah!) And gop election fraud (which nate frustratingly won't touch with a ten foot pole.)

tevolit

(76 posts)
24. Exceptions
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 08:24 AM
Nov 2012

I remembered why it could be that there would be 100's in a row that fall in the 90 before a 10.

If many of Nates predictions are correlated, as they are for these states, then when there does turn out to be a bias many of the 10's could come in all at once.

So, it makes sense that there could be long stretches of no "failures".

But, out of curiosity, approximately how many 90 to 95% chance items have there been, other than these presidential situations?

DireStrike

(6,452 posts)
28. I can't find this data easily. I will try again later and if all else fails, write to Mr. Silver for
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:19 PM
Nov 2012

it.

fiorello

(182 posts)
23. No worries: Obama is just as like to score unexpected wins
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 07:41 AM
Nov 2012

... Also, win probability is much greater than 90% for many of the Obama states.

So if Obama has a small chance to lose a safe state - Ohio, Pennsylvania, Minnesota - he also has a small chance of picking up a sahe-for-the-bad-guys state - Indiana, Georgia, Arizona.

Plus a swing state like North Carolina.

That's why Nate's overall probability adds to 95%.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
19. I don't understand how Nate can declare OHIO "Safe" for Obama
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 01:43 AM
Nov 2012

How do we know it's Safe until he wins there?

Until we can be sure that there isn't any funny business going on with Husted & the computer software, isn't there the possibility of a loss?

Btw, I'm surprised Nate has now put Florida into light blue. I thought Romney was ahead in most of the Florida polls.

Anyway, bottom line is that I'd much rather be in Obama's position than Romney's!

abumbyanyothername

(2,711 posts)
29. Troy -- the handwringing is wearing a little thin at this point.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 02:23 PM
Nov 2012

I never thought you were a concern troll, despite the charges leveled.

But now . . . . .

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
25. If it's any consolation, I voted in W.Va. Saturday
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 08:26 AM
Nov 2012

Obama supporters do exist here, contrary to what the coal barons and the racists would have you believe.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
27. Interesting that this geek is the new DU "Justin Bieber"
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 09:12 AM
Nov 2012

Girlies all swooning an' shit. If he was consistently predicting for Robme, would there be such a cult of adoration here? Doubt it.

He's a numbers geek, just like so many others. That his numbers point in our direction makes him no more "Godlike" than any other number geek, yet DU is worshiping at his feet like he's the freakin' Oracle at Delphi.

Jeeze, people, THINK with your own brains for a minute or two!!!

Bake

(21,977 posts)
30. No, it's not Nate personally. Nothing godlike there.
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 03:18 PM
Nov 2012

He's a numbers geek. And we like numbers. Especially the number 271.

As The Count would say, "AH! AH! AH!"



Bake

FSogol

(45,452 posts)
32. Say it with me: Landslide, landslide, landslide, landslide!
Tue Nov 6, 2012, 04:52 PM
Nov 2012

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