Sat Jun 11, 2016, 06:41 AM
cali (114,904 posts)
Mark Shields: "He lost the nomination, but he won the future of the Democratic Party."
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JUDY WOODRUFF: How much do you think, Mark, the fact that they sort of — the White House orchestrated this, this week, in a way that they just — they gave Bernie Sanders gave the space to get out when he wants to. MARK SHIELDS: Democrats, historically, when they form a firing squad, from a circle. This was a total exception. It was brilliantly choreographed. In addition to the president’s endorsement, a man not noted for his self-doubt, to say that she was the most qualified presidential candidate in his lifetime was quite an admission and statement. I thought the other part of it, Judy, was the deference and respect and space they gave — given to Bernie Sanders, that he’s paid homage, he’s paid tribute, and I think deservedly so. He lost the nomination, but he won the future of the Democratic Party. <snip> http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/shields-and-brooks-on-anticlimactic-clinton-victory-trumps-moral-chasm/
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cali | Jun 2016 | OP |
Mike Nelson | Jun 2016 | #1 | |
pampango | Jun 2016 | #2 | |
PoliticAverse | Jun 2016 | #3 | |
zazen | Jun 2016 | #4 | |
Armstead | Jun 2016 | #12 | |
senseandsensibility | Jun 2016 | #14 | |
Surya Gayatri | Jun 2016 | #5 | |
stonecutter357 | Jun 2016 | #6 | |
cali | Jun 2016 | #7 | |
stonecutter357 | Jun 2016 | #8 | |
cali | Jun 2016 | #9 | |
PoliticAverse | Jun 2016 | #10 | |
Tom Rinaldo | Jun 2016 | #11 | |
geek tragedy | Jun 2016 | #13 |
Response to cali (Original post)
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 06:49 AM
Mike Nelson (9,443 posts)
1. Loved how the Democrats behave...
...compared to the Republicans. Bernie's a hero. We have them under a barrel!
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Response to cali (Original post)
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 06:52 AM
pampango (24,692 posts)
2. While Trump won the nomination, but he lost the future of the republican party.
At least one can hope.
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Response to cali (Original post)
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 06:54 AM
PoliticAverse (26,366 posts)
3. I'll still be waiting for my flying car. n/t
Response to cali (Original post)
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 06:58 AM
zazen (2,978 posts)
4. he won us the _opportunity_ to influence the future of the Democratic party, but that's on us
Shields is being very kind and generous, but each and every one of us has a helluva lot of work to do. I'll vote for HRC because we can continue that work more successfully within the context of her administration than in a maniac like Trump's, which would probably precipitate a constitutional crisis and coup within weeks.
I liken Sanders more to John the Baptist, in the jeremiad tradition. I don't know how good an administrator he could have been anyway. He has helped wake millions of people up and set the stage for our own hard work, conversion, and redemption (which is what Jesus, a man, symbolizes anyway). The Good News for which John the Baptist was paving the way IMO wasn't for someone divine to rescue you and whisk you away from all of your troubles, but for you to learn (through the Gospel) how to liberate yourself and help your fellow human being through often difficult but very rewarding, transformative daily spiritual choices and practice. He's "won" by waking people up, but what we do with it is on us. |
Response to zazen (Reply #4)
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 10:47 AM
Armstead (47,803 posts)
12. I only disagree with oyu on one point...He was not merely John the Baptist.....
When he was mayor of Burlington he surprosied everyone bywhat a pragmatic and effective CEO he turned out to be.
We blew abig opportunity. https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/10/31/socialist-even-conservative-could-love-burlington-mayor-sanders-was-able-out-republican-republicans/SCmh2TLifXxXRPFKC8NMjO/story.htm lhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-dreier/bernies-burlington-what-k_b_7510704.html |
Response to zazen (Reply #4)
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:45 AM
senseandsensibility (14,335 posts)
14. It is and always has been on us,
and we need people like Bernie to constantly show us that. I love your post. You made many good points.
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Response to cali (Original post)
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 07:08 AM
Surya Gayatri (15,445 posts)
5. "It was brilliantly choreographed." Outstanding political stage-craft. SO proud of the Dem Party
in ALL of its permutations. We DO get it right quite often.
"...the deference and respect and space they gave — (have) given to Bernie Sanders, that he’s paid homage, he’s paid tribute."
How can any sentient person not see the devastating contrast with the fast-disintegrating GOP? Running away in droves from their nominee and his appalling rhetoric. |
Response to cali (Original post)
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:08 AM
stonecutter357 (12,515 posts)
6. second is the first loser.
Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #6)
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:16 AM
cali (114,904 posts)
7. I don't expect you to understand that this was about more than who was
going to be the nominee. I've always said it would be Hillary, but in no way did I expect Sanders' success in dominating the political conversation.
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Response to cali (Reply #7)
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:33 AM
stonecutter357 (12,515 posts)
8. Bernie has been rejected by the "majority" of the Democratic party .
Last edited Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:16 AM - Edit history (1) happy now......
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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #8)
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:41 AM
cali (114,904 posts)
9. the word is majority, not marjarty. But Bernie has been massively endorsed
by young voters. They are the future of the party.
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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #8)
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 10:27 AM
PoliticAverse (26,366 posts)
10. "marjarty" - are those the ones that support marijuana legalization? Because I think those voters.
favored Sanders.
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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #8)
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 10:44 AM
Tom Rinaldo (22,714 posts)
11. You mean like Hillary was rejected by African American voters in 2008?
Except that she really wasn't of course. It wasn't a rejection of her then, nor of Bernie now, voters had a different preference, and a lot of factors go into that. And sometimes people don't vote for who they really prefer, they pragmatically vote for who they think will win. Bernie had the highest favorables of any Democratic candidate. Democrats polled nationally were happy with their choices this year, none were "rejected"
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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #8)
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:39 AM
geek tragedy (68,868 posts)
13. No, they just preferred Clinton nt