Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:50 AM
cali (114,904 posts)
Sure I'd like to see HRC choose Warren- or Brown, for that matter. BUT
I'd hate to see either replaced by a republican. As I understand it there are loopholes, such as Warren writing a letter of resignation 160 days or so prior to inauguration, which means she'd have to do it within the next few weeks. In that case, evidently, Baker would have to hold an election almost immediately after the inauguration. I'm not sure whether the same loophole holds true in Ohio where Kasich is Governor.
But aside from all that, I don't think that Clinton choosing Warren would indicate anything about the direction of her policies or commitment to financial reform. The vice presidency is one of the most ceremonial and least substantive political post that there is. And it demands complete fealty to the President. You don't openly oppose or publicly utter a word of disagreement with the President you serve under. Period. We stand little chance of winning back the House, but we stand a pretty damn good chance of taking back the Senate. I'd much prefer a democratic senate with a strong progressive wing than a republican senate.
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cali | Jun 2016 | OP |
emulatorloo | Jun 2016 | #1 | |
DinahMoeHum | Jun 2016 | #2 | |
Buns_of_Fire | Jun 2016 | #3 | |
Nonhlanhla | Jun 2016 | #4 | |
TheKentuckian | Jun 2016 | #5 | |
Lizzie Poppet | Jun 2016 | #6 | |
tk2kewl | Jun 2016 | #7 |
Response to cali (Original post)
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 08:07 AM
emulatorloo (41,927 posts)
1. as VP, I expect Warren would have her own portfolio. And bully pulpit
In the past she's said positive things about Clinton's financial reform policies. Protecting the judiciary and consumer protection are other areas of alignment.
She was really fired up and enthusiastic last night and it was pretty contagious. Reid loophole sounds doable to me. Point taken about dem controlled Senate. |
Response to cali (Original post)
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 08:14 AM
DinahMoeHum (21,285 posts)
2. Agreed. Warren would be far more valuable in the Senate
as Majority Leader.
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Response to cali (Original post)
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 08:30 AM
Buns_of_Fire (16,264 posts)
3. As far as any significant financial reform goes, HRC has already indicated
her feelings by announcing that she's planning on dragging Bill back in to be in charge of economic matters. So while putting Warren on the ticket would probably help politically, she'd also be defanging Warren by stuffing her into a largely ceremonial position.
As a political move, it's pretty sharp. As a policy move... well, bringing Bubba back in to work more of his magic on the economy tells me all I need to know. |
Response to cali (Original post)
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 08:43 AM
Nonhlanhla (2,074 posts)
4. I think Warren would be an intriguing choice
It would signal that Hillary plans to be a more progressive president than Bill was. I suspect she will be, in fact, both because I think she might be more progressive than Bill, and because these are different times. (In fact, I think Bill would have been a more progressive president this time around, given the changes in the country and the fact that this time around he would not have been the Dem president that follows the Reagan era.)
Regarding the two concerns raised here, I think those are valid concerns, but I also think that there are ways around it. I think both Hillary and EW are cognizant of the fact that if they want to team up, they need to make sure that EW resigns in time for there to be an election for her seat and not an appointment. EW will have to decide if she wants to risk that. Secondly, I don't think EW will sign up for a mere ceremonial role. Despite the role that I suspect Bill play in a Hillary presidency, I think there is good reason to believe that Hillary will want an active VP, much like Gore was a very active VP under Bill even though Bill also gave Hillary an active role (initially). The Clintons are savvy political players, but they're also team players, as we've seen time and time again. |
Response to cali (Original post)
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 08:47 AM
TheKentuckian (23,947 posts)
5. Why, so we can lose one of our few liberal Senators with a little clout and get
a back benches at best, a Republican at worst, and likely someone more corporate and conservative either way in exchange for a feel good state funeral goer in chief, a tie breaker, and a daily health of the President inquirer?
Secretary of Treasury? Worth considering but VP is mostly a hood ornament and a 20 million dollar a year veteran on the downside backup quarterback in the age of the salary cap at best. |
Response to cali (Original post)
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 09:10 AM
Lizzie Poppet (10,164 posts)
6. Precisely. Choosing EW would be a combination false front/neutering a prominent progressive.
A completely fake bone thrown to the progressive left, and a way to silence one of the most prominent progressive voices in DC. If Warren becomes part of such an obvious scam, I'll lose considerable respect for her.
Unless she's playing the long game and assuming a successful impeachment attempt by the GOP Congress... ![]() |
Response to cali (Original post)
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 09:22 AM
tk2kewl (18,133 posts)
7. I would see a Warren VP pick as a way to
"Neuter" her, just as Wall St has wanted
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