Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:17 PM

Rebkeh (2,450 posts)

Why HRC is bad for black people, the shorter version

There’s just no nice way to say it and it since it must be said..

She protects the beneficiaries of division, racial division included. She supports the very reasons race was invented in the first place, she’s got their backs, not ours. While she may create policies that target structural racism, Missy H does this while America morphs into a country of worsening class division. Poor black people are not going to benefit because opportunities are not enough to level the playing field for them. On the contrary, her friends up top need their chattel in jails. Latte liberals are the new "moderate" republican.

To go one further, who better than Trump to scare people into voting against their own interests? The Clintons didn’t just do their part in co-opting the Democratic Party with neoliberalism, they use GOP tactics to keep the co-option going.

Not a damn thing would change under another Clinton presidency, just more of the same with new labels, new faces and more races.

The second she doesn’t need us anymore, she’ll disappear. Count on it. You know how that go.

I am prepared for her to prove me wrong.

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118 replies	Author	Time	Post
Why HRC is bad for black people, the shorter version (Original post)	Rebkeh	Jun 2016	OP
You can stop lecturing PoC. They have already overwhelmingly voted for her.	PeaceNikki	Jun 2016	#1
No lecture there. The OP is pointing out something important.	senz	Jun 2016	#4
For what purpose? To tell PoC that she knows what's best for them more than they do?	PeaceNikki	Jun 2016	#7
For what purpose? For truth.	840high	Jun 2016	#43
How arrogant is it to substitute your judgement for someone elses...	Demsrule86	Jun 2016	#68
You're doing the same.	840high	Jun 2016	#73
Not doing tht at all	Demsrule86	Jun 2016	#85
No. That's not True	rock	Jun 2016	#86
codswallop. The OP is opinion. And I again ask, at this juncture, what is the OP trying to do?	PeaceNikki	Jun 2016	#87
The post does not address any specific group of people	notadmblnd	Jun 2016	#107
SMDH	rbrnmw	Jun 2016	#19
What makes you think her post is only for PoC? n/t	Herman4747	Jun 2016	#20
The title?	PeaceNikki	Jun 2016	#21
White people have no interest in why...	Herman4747	Jun 2016	#32
Strawman, no one said ONLY but you	uponit7771	Jun 2016	#63
Take a deep look at post #1. Look carefully.	Herman4747	Jun 2016	#65
Yeap, no "only" there... thx for playin	uponit7771	Jun 2016	#66
No "only" there, because there's only one group mentioned!!! n/t	Herman4747	Jun 2016	#93
I think I can decide for myself when I am being lectured. TYVM.	Hiraeth	Jun 2016	#99
The OP is a POC.	Ken Burch	Jun 2016	#115
You chose some pretty awesome timing for this post nt	geek tragedy	Jun 2016	#2
No joke. Immediately after the most powerful black man on the planet endorsed her.	PeaceNikki	Jun 2016	#69
She has shown it over and over again ever since she was FLOTUS.	senz	Jun 2016	#3
You make alot of assertions	apcalc	Jun 2016	#8
this thread is racist and offensive	Florencenj2point0	Jun 2016	#5
You are inferring that, it is not what the post is saying. What is offensive is trying to render	JCanete	Jun 2016	#36
...!100++++	840high	Jun 2016	#74
Creating a wedge issue out of race is a Republican tactic. But the Dem Party is so far to the right	GoneFishin	Jun 2016	#109
Thoughtcrime!	Califonz	Jun 2016	#80
This OP is a prime example of how	annavictorious	Jun 2016	#82
what	bigtree	Jun 2016	#6
"I am prepared for her to prove me wrong."	jzodda	Jun 2016	#9
Another flame bait post	Andy823	Jun 2016	#10
Oh boy! Why are we still allowing racist threads?	leftofcool	Jun 2016	#11
What is racist about this thread? People vote against their best interests all the time, across	JCanete	Jun 2016	#28
Nothing racist.	840high	Jun 2016	#75
Just days left	MFM008	Jun 2016	#12
Bullshit.	Quayblue	Jun 2016	#13
I agree, wholeheartedly.	Renaissance Man	Jun 2016	#14
that's nice. we look forward to hearing from you in 8 years nt	geek tragedy	Jun 2016	#15
"she supported...the 1994 Crime Bill" - the one Sanders voted for?	TwilightZone	Jun 2016	#18
The 1994 Crime Bill	Renaissance Man	Jun 2016	#24
So, you're criticizing her for supporting it, but you're ok with Sanders actually voting for it.	TwilightZone	Jun 2016	#27
Cognitive dissonance.	Renaissance Man	Jun 2016	#30
Attacking Clinton for supporting a bill that Sanders voted for is the very definition of	TwilightZone	Jun 2016	#38
Post removed	Post removed	Jun 2016	#42
NAILED it. It was so horrible but somehow the person who allegedly voiced support for it is 1000	Number23	Jun 2016	#101
Your creative rationalizations are bemusing.	LanternWaste	Jun 2016	#55
Sure she was a racist in 2008, but like many other issues, she's "evolved", so, no worries*	jack_krass	Jun 2016	#22
She evolves constantly. How	840high	Jun 2016	#76
I don't know*	jack_krass	Jun 2016	#89
Thanks for your perfectly stated belief, I agree with you.	Todays_Illusion	Jun 2016	#23
Dolores Huerta sold out?	geek tragedy	Jun 2016	#31
And "John Lewis was shamefully used." The disrespect from that bunch never ceases to amaze	Hekate	Jun 2016	#97
Thank you.	840high	Jun 2016	#50
Agreed.	atomingai	Jun 2016	#53
Yeah, I'm thinking about Dr. Jill Stein too. Hey, she's honest, unlike Hillary	Herman4747	Jun 2016	#110
"Missy H"?	TwilightZone	Jun 2016	#16
This screed is trash worthy today	workinclasszero	Jun 2016	#17
Not sure why you are posting this now. What do you suggest? A vote for Trump?	yardwork	Jun 2016	#25
Yet again	TeacherB87	Jun 2016	#26
Um...maybe have a look at the OP's .sig?	Lizzie Poppet	Jun 2016	#33
What about it?	TeacherB87	Jun 2016	#37
Never mind.	Lizzie Poppet	Jun 2016	#39
Thanks for caring enough to post initially but then not enough to follow up.	TeacherB87	Jun 2016	#51
I thought you were being disingenuous.	Lizzie Poppet	Jun 2016	#52
You know that being a member of a minority does not mean one cannot	athena	Jun 2016	#77
Of course.	Lizzie Poppet	Jun 2016	#78
Then what is your point?	athena	Jun 2016	#81
Geez...just geez.	Spazito	Jun 2016	#29
We know, we know ... you hate her SO-O-O much, it...it...it... flames...	NurseJackie	Jun 2016	#34
"She supports the very reasons race was invented in the first place" nt.	NCTraveler	Jun 2016	#35
Wut????	PeaceNikki	Jun 2016	#40
Maybe they will tell us. nt.	NCTraveler	Jun 2016	#44
Thanks for pointing that part out. Missed it in the oceans of swill.	PeaceNikki	Jun 2016	#47
Forget it, the OP is rolling...	Blue_Tires	Jun 2016	#46
I assume	gollygee	Jun 2016	#70
We've heard variations of this lame argument since South Carolina	Tarc	Jun 2016	#41
+1, they're doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results	uponit7771	Jun 2016	#64
"Who better than Trump to scare people into voting against their own interests?"	Blue_Tires	Jun 2016	#45
There are good reasons why African Americans are not supporting Sanders	Gothmog	Jun 2016	#48
As a white person living in the south, I tend to agree with this assessment.	yardwork	Jun 2016	#61
All that is missing are two words "Stockholm Syndrome"	Sheepshank	Jun 2016	#49
You nailed it.	emulatorloo	Jun 2016	#54
The last line of your post	JSup	Jun 2016	#56
Just out of curiosity - are any of the 15 people who recced this OP People of Color?	yardwork	Jun 2016	#57
President Obama and the Congressional Black Caucus have HRC's	oasis	Jun 2016	#58
lolz you guys!	obamanut2012	Jun 2016	#59
Figures. I knew immdiately wtf this would be	bravenak	Jun 2016	#60
is that just a lovely OP	rbrnmw	Jun 2016	#79
For sure. This one swears	bravenak	Jun 2016	#88
"I guess tee em number number was busy, so it was your turn."	Number23	Jun 2016	#103
This shit was wack!	bravenak	Jun 2016	#105
...	emulatorloo	Jun 2016	#118
Sigh, another "Hillary is Satan" post... why do the same thing over and over again and expect a .	uponit7771	Jun 2016	#62
July 16th nt	Demsrule86	Jun 2016	#67
Same post...the longer version was hidden...why re-post? nt	Demsrule86	Jun 2016	#71
I respectfully disagree.	Beacool	Jun 2016	#72
Bull malarkey	rock	Jun 2016	#83
Bernie Sanders won 1 state...	jamese777	Jun 2016	#84
"I am prepared for her to prove me wrong. "	Cheese Sandwich	Jun 2016	#90
Are you, by any chance, black? If not, perhaps you should let the members of that demographic ...	Hekate	Jun 2016	#91
Yes, Rebkeh is black as are others agreeing with her on this thread	Arazi	Jun 2016	#95
Lol!	zappaman	Jun 2016	#92
Damn......where is the Zoolander car gif? nt	msanthrope	Jun 2016	#96
the other thead was deleted I hope this one is too	Florencenj2point0	Jun 2016	#94
Unfortunately,	Jamaal510	Jun 2016	#102
Every black poster I see in this thread is like this	Number23	Jun 2016	#106
That is craptastic! Especially the "latte liberals" part! You sound just like Newt! Was that what	Squinch	Jun 2016	#98
You've spent too much time in the Sanders group, I think	Number23	Jun 2016	#100
We still doing this?	Metric System	Jun 2016	#104
I'm With Rebkeh	jamese777	Jun 2016	#108
Where exactly does Rebkeh say she's voting for Trump?	Herman4747	Jun 2016	#111
Why lecturing black people about their best interest is bad, the shorter version.	wildeyed	Jun 2016	#112
She's black too. But it seems she does not respect our choices as we do hers.	bravenak	Jun 2016	#113
Isn't it about a year too late for this?	Chitown Kev	Jun 2016	#114
Yep. I have no idea why this was even posted. It's been kinda over.	bravenak	Jun 2016	#116
Ah, I guess I missed that.	wildeyed	Jun 2016	#117

Response to Rebkeh (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:18 PM

PeaceNikki (27,985 posts)

1. You can stop lecturing PoC. They have already overwhelmingly voted for her.

And you'll see that in DC as well.

Why HRC is bad for black people, the shorter version

1. You can stop lecturing PoC. They have already overwhelmingly voted for her.

4. No lecture there. The OP is pointing out something important.

7. For what purpose? To tell PoC that she knows what's best for them more than they do?

43. For what purpose? For truth.

68. How arrogant is it to substitute your judgement for someone elses...

73. You're doing the same.

85. Not doing tht at all

86. No. That's not True

87. codswallop. The OP is opinion. And I again ask, at this juncture, what is the OP trying to do?

107. The post does not address any specific group of people

19. SMDH

20. What makes you think her post is only for PoC? n/t

21. The title?

32. White people have no interest in why...

63. Strawman, no one said ONLY but you

65. Take a deep look at post #1. Look carefully.

66. Yeap, no "only" there... thx for playin

93. No "only" there, because there's only one group mentioned!!! n/t

99. I think I can decide for myself when I am being lectured. TYVM.

115. The OP is a POC.

2. You chose some pretty awesome timing for this post nt

69. No joke. Immediately after the most powerful black man on the planet endorsed her.

3. She has shown it over and over again ever since she was FLOTUS.

8. You make alot of assertions

5. this thread is racist and offensive

36. You are inferring that, it is not what the post is saying. What is offensive is trying to render

74. ...!100++++

109. Creating a wedge issue out of race is a Republican tactic. But the Dem Party is so far to the right

80. Thoughtcrime!

82. This OP is a prime example of how

6. what

9. "I am prepared for her to prove me wrong."

10. Another flame bait post

11. Oh boy! Why are we still allowing racist threads?

28. What is racist about this thread? People vote against their best interests all the time, across

75. Nothing racist.

12. Just days left

13. Bullshit.

14. I agree, wholeheartedly.

15. that's nice. we look forward to hearing from you in 8 years nt

18. "she supported...the 1994 Crime Bill" - the one Sanders voted for?

24. The 1994 Crime Bill

27. So, you're criticizing her for supporting it, but you're ok with Sanders actually voting for it.

30. Cognitive dissonance.

38. Attacking Clinton for supporting a bill that Sanders voted for is the very definition of

101. NAILED it. It was so horrible but somehow the person who allegedly voiced support for it is 1000

55. Your creative rationalizations are bemusing.

22. Sure she was a racist in 2008, but like many other issues, she's "evolved", so, no worries*

76. She evolves constantly. How

89. I don't know*

23. Thanks for your perfectly stated belief, I agree with you.

31. Dolores Huerta sold out?

97. And "John Lewis was shamefully used." The disrespect from that bunch never ceases to amaze

50. Thank you.

53. Agreed.

110. Yeah, I'm thinking about Dr. Jill Stein too. Hey, she's honest, unlike Hillary

16. "Missy H"?

17. This screed is trash worthy today

25. Not sure why you are posting this now. What do you suggest? A vote for Trump?

26. Yet again

33. Um...maybe have a look at the OP's .sig?

37. What about it?

39. Never mind.

51. Thanks for caring enough to post initially but then not enough to follow up.

52. I thought you were being disingenuous.

77. You know that being a member of a minority does not mean one cannot

78. Of course.

81. Then what is your point?

29. Geez...just geez.

34. We know, we know ... you hate her SO-O-O much, it...it...it... flames...

35. "She supports the very reasons race was invented in the first place" nt.

40. Wut????

44. Maybe they will tell us. nt.

47. Thanks for pointing that part out. Missed it in the oceans of swill.

46. Forget it, the OP is rolling...

70. I assume

41. We've heard variations of this lame argument since South Carolina

64. +1, they're doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results

45. "Who better than Trump to scare people into voting against their own interests?"