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Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:18 AM

Once and for all: Hillary Clinton is NOT corrupted by Wall Street

Once and for all: Hillary Clinton is NOT corrupted by Wall Street

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By PurplePower
2016/06/09 · 00:07



On numerous occasions, Bernie has mockingly said he would release the transcripts of his paid speeches. He then proceeds to flail his arms in the air, proud of the fact he has never been offered money for his thoughts [probably because he is rather ineffective at achieving progress]. Point is — those that are in Congress are not legally allowed to give paid speeches due to conflict of interest. Hillary Rodham Clinton never gave a single paid speech while she served as First Lady, New York Senator, or Secretary of State.


The “Wall Street speech” attack is nothing more than a McCarthy-style smear. Character assassination. Innuendo.

Bernie was unable to give even one concrete example of how these speeches corrupted Hillary Clinton, proving this Wall Street attack is nothing more than an artful smear. Designed to raise questions where there are none. Innuendo at its finest.

However, some Bernie supporters use Hillary’s bankruptcy vote as an example of her supposed “corruption.”



"My experience has been that whenever you closely examine the attacks on Hillary, whether they come from the left or the right, they break apart under scrutiny."

~Zachary Leven


Hillary voted for a version of the bankruptcy bill after working with Congress to include amendments directly addressing Elizabeth Warren’s concerns about the bill — specifically those regarding women and children. The bill then went to the Republican-controlled House, which removed the amendments protecting women and children. When the bill was sent back to the Senate, Democrats [including Hillary] filibustered the bill. Later, a finalized version of the bill passed without Hillary’s support.

READ THE REST including votes Bernie has made that would surprise you



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Reply Once and for all: Hillary Clinton is NOT corrupted by Wall Street (Original post)
BootinUp Jun 2016 OP
think Jun 2016 #1
reformist2 Jun 2016 #37
marions ghost Jun 2016 #39
MariaThinks Jun 2016 #2
Hortensis Jun 2016 #48
pinebox Jun 2016 #3
uponit7771 Jun 2016 #6
bluesbassman Jun 2016 #38
senseandsensibility Jun 2016 #35
B Calm Jun 2016 #44
uponit7771 Jun 2016 #4
think Jun 2016 #7
seabeyond Jun 2016 #10
TCJ70 Jun 2016 #45
seabeyond Jun 2016 #49
uponit7771 Jun 2016 #13
think Jun 2016 #15
uponit7771 Jun 2016 #17
think Jun 2016 #21
deathrind Jun 2016 #28
forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #24
retrowire Jun 2016 #5
HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #8
seabeyond Jun 2016 #9
Orsino Jun 2016 #11
bahrbearian Jun 2016 #12
Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #14
Cha Jun 2016 #16
think Jun 2016 #18
Locrian Jun 2016 #22
LAS14 Jun 2016 #19
Herman4747 Jun 2016 #20
Recursion Jun 2016 #34
Herman4747 Jun 2016 #40
imagine2015 Jun 2016 #23
Melissa G Jun 2016 #25
HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #26
enid602 Jun 2016 #27
FreakinDJ Jun 2016 #29
BootinUp Jun 2016 #30
kadaholo Jun 2016 #31
betsuni Jun 2016 #32
PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #33
Skwmom Jun 2016 #36
hobbit709 Jun 2016 #41
hobbit709 Jun 2016 #42
bigwillq Jun 2016 #43
cali Jun 2016 #46
aikoaiko Jun 2016 #47

Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:20 AM

1. Hillary Helps a Bank—and Then It Funnels Millions to the Clintons

 

” Maybe it’s all a mere coincidence, and when UBS agreed to pay Bill Clinton $1.5 million the relevant decision-maker wasn’t even aware of the vast sum his wife may have saved the bank or the power that she will potentially wield after the 2016 presidential election.

Read more:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/07/hillary-helps-a-bankand-then-it-pays-bill-15-million-in-speaking-fees/400067/

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Response to think (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 11:35 PM

37. She and Bill are the most corrupt politicians of our lifetimes.

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Response to reformist2 (Reply #37)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 11:52 PM

39. Certainly among the top

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:20 AM

2. I agree.

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Response to MariaThinks (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:53 AM

48. Sure. Bernie Sanders thinks I am corrupt.

He calls all Democratic officials who do not join him corrupt and assumes all Democratic voters who do not join him support corruption. There are few things I know for sure, but I do know he is very wrong in this and unfortunately prone to critically bad judgement.

My question is, why weren't more long, cool looks being cast at Sanders long before? Just imagine of the outfielders on a baseball team decided they didn't like the way the infield played and that their first job was to take out their own infield, and only then set out to win the game against the opposing team. That's Bernie Sanders.

"Aides say Sanders thinks that progressives who picked Clinton are cynical, power-chasing chickens — like Sen. Sherrod Brown, one of his most consistent allies in the Senate before endorsing Clinton and campaigning hard for her ahead of the Ohio primary." Politico

For Sanders, "there is no such thing as honest agreement." Barney Frank on Sanders demonizing his colleagues as corrupt whenever they disagreed with him.

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:23 AM

3. Are you kidding?

 

You honestly believe this? Oh boy......

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Response to pinebox (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:27 AM

6. Same can be said about Sanders and the gun industry, he voted to give them immunity already

... so he has an established record of quid pro quo than Clinton using Sanders camp own standard

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 11:49 PM

38. You are incorrect.

This smear against Senator Sanders has been refuted countless times, yet here you are promoting it once more. The vote was against bad law, not giving gun manufacturers immunity.

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Response to pinebox (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 11:28 PM

35. Thank you.

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Response to pinebox (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:02 AM

44. +1 great post!

 

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:25 AM

4. +1, No more than Sanders is corrupted by the horrid gun industry in America. WS is the privileged ..

... boogyman while the NRA is the boogyman of many urban areas.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:33 AM

7. Bernie gets a D- from the NRA and doesn't take money from the gun industry. Hillary's taken millions

 

from Wall Street in actual CASH. Not donations. Income.

Hillary doesn't support Glass Steagall and isn't addressing the fraud and corruption on Wall Street. She plans to put someone from Wall Street in the Sec Treasury position.

Her chief economic adviser is Gary Gensler, a former Goldman Sachs partner that helped create the CFMA which deregulated derivatives and was at the epicenter of the great recession.

Hillary chose to intervene in the UBS scandal involving the IRS and then Bill got $1.5 million in speaking fees from the bank.

But according to you Bernie is the corrupt one...

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Response to think (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:37 AM

10. Until they finance his campaigns, or he votes for their rights, or those in his district that he

 

represents. Gone owners in rural Vermont. You know, they do not use guns in the same fashion as those urban people.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #10)

Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:04 AM

45. Did Sanders get money from the NRA?

I don't think so...

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Response to TCJ70 (Reply #45)

Fri Jun 10, 2016, 09:06 AM

49. Yes. 1991 at least.

 

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Response to think (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:43 AM

13. Which is still horrible, he should be getting an F- and that's not his lifetime avg. Either way

... Sanders spoke to the boogyman of the privileged... Wall Street, not the boogyman of the dem base

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:50 AM

15. Wall Street banks helped cause the great recession which cost millions of Americans their jobs and

 

homes.

They've rigged markets, lied to congress, ripped off their clients, & laundered money for the drug cartel. Yet virtually no one went to jail.

And you dismiss these criminal banks as the boogeyman? Seriously?





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Response to think (Reply #15)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:53 AM

17. No, the boogymen of the privileged... good try at a strawman but fail. The dem base has other ...

... boogymen that was mentioned in passing by the Sanders campaign.

His message of warning of economic insecurity fell on deaf ears of those who were already economically insecure... including screaming to the hilt Wall Street was the bad guys.

That's known, but not as bad as stupid cops or bigotry or bigoted economic suppression...

That's what the dem base wanted to hear... not the boogymen of the privileged

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #17)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 11:02 AM

21. Did Wall Street banks rig markets and commit other serious crimes or not?

 

Can you answer a question without resorting to calling it boogeyman, unicorn, or fairy?

I understand Hillary supporters love folk lore and fairy tales but we're discussing factual events here that had real and devastating effects for the American people.

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Response to think (Reply #21)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:16 PM

28. / This.

I have pointed this out on several occasions (and get the same type of fairytale reply) when discussing why the transcripts issue is very relavent and important. Had 2008 not happened or had there been some form of accountability for it, it would not be, but it did and many many people lost all they had worked for over decades in some cases job/house/retirement etc. What HRC said to those who's actions contributed greatly to the collapse is very important...but it is brushed aside by people as if you say some sort of fairytale.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #17)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:00 PM

24. There's a lot of economic suppression you can tie to Wall Street

 

That specifically targeted black people (redlining, segregation in regards to past New Deal benefits, etc". There was no reason why Bernie's class-based message needed to leave out specifically POC issues but it did. POC and white people experience class oppression in different ways.

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:26 AM

5. bridges for sale! nt

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:33 AM

8. revisionism begins... here comes the whitewashing attempt

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-shadow-banking_us_5696d0fae4b0b4eb759d2606

folks that take the time to know HRC history, and it's easy to find, quickly can find this attempt to revise history as a joke

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:34 AM

9. Wall Street. Employees. Business owners affected and their employess. NY Senator, representative

 

to ALL these little people tied up in the Wall Street business. This never made sense to me, this attack. Then to step into NY stating wall street evil and needs to be taken down, while demanding their vote. Wall street, are truly people.

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:37 AM

11. Money corrupts.

So much money from people with an interest in hurting our economic recovery deserves extra scrutiny. No excuses for still hiding the transcripts.

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:40 AM

12. Well then the transcripts should prove it. What's she afraid of?

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:44 AM

14. Simple solution: Produce the transcripts and let them speak for themselves.

 

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:51 AM

16. I remember that.. good times.



Bernie was unable to give even one concrete example of how these speeches corrupted Hillary Clinton, proving this Wall Street attack is nothing more than an artful smear. Designed to raise questions where there are none. Innuendo at its finest.

Didn't work, though.

Thanks, Boot..

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Response to Cha (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:56 AM

18. Soft corruption is currently legal and hard to prove. And now Hillary supporters proudly support it.

 

I remember when Democrats despised this kind of corruption when the GOP did it.

Times sure have changed....

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Response to think (Reply #18)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 11:11 AM

22. mental gymnastics

How much mental gymnastics and denial does it take to think that wallstreet would give MILLIONS to someone and it not result in any bias? And not just once (fool me once shame on ....etc) but over YEARS. Again and again.

We're seriously suppose to think the wallstreet/ goldman is dumb enough to throw money away year after year? With no return on investment? Really?


But they're right about one thing. It really does NOT influence her. She already agrees with them from the get-go. They really wouldn't technically have to give a dime for the general policy - except they can get SPECIFIC for their millions.






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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:58 AM

19. K & R

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 11:00 AM

20. IDIOTIC POST.

 

"Bernie was unable to give even one concrete example of how these speeches corrupted Hillary Clinton"

Well, duh, the speeches were made AFTER SHE LEFT GOVERNMENT (THAT IS, WAS NO LONGER A PART OF GOVERNMENT).

The concern is GOING FORWARD.

What did she promise Goldman Sachs, that she now wishes to keep secret from the public?

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Response to Herman4747 (Reply #20)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 11:25 PM

34. Because she would have said that promise in a keynote address?

Seriously, that's idiotic. Even if you think she was "bought" ( ) she wouldn't talk about it in a speech to a crowded room of bored bankers.

Do people even think about this?

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Response to Recursion (Reply #34)

Fri Jun 10, 2016, 06:24 AM

40. Do you know how many were in attendance? If so, do tell!

 

And given Hillary's email problems, what makes you think she is always guided by logic?

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 11:38 AM

23. Isn't Hillary the former Senator from Wall Street?

 

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:53 PM

25. Hillary is corrupted by many things...

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/tracking-the-clinton-controversies-from-whitewater-to-benghazi/396182/

From Whitewater to Benghazi: A Clinton-Scandal Primer

A new report from the State Department’s inspector general reportedly blasts Clinton’s use of private email—the latest headache for the Democratic front-runner.

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:06 PM

26. Sure. Goldman-Sachs gave her millions so she would tighten regulations and raise their taxes.

 

Denial is strong at Castle Bansalot.

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:13 PM

27. wall st

Dang. I sure wish Wall Street would corrupt me. I'm totally corruptable.

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:20 PM

29. If this is the New DU then count me out

 

It more like some alternate reality with Unicorns and Rainbows

Hillary is viewed as one of the most corrupt politicians according to Pew research for some very good reasons

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:40 PM

30. kick

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:53 PM

31. RIGHT...!!!!

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:59 PM

32. Thank you!

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 11:08 PM

33. Hillary and Bill Clinton collected $143 million in speaker's fees over the 8 year period

ending in 2014, most to financial institutions and corporate businesses for $200,000 plus per speech.

Concurrently, The Clinton Foundation received over $2 billion in gifts from individuals, corporations, financial institutions, and foreign governments.

Hillary Clinton was publically against the Colombia Free Trade legislation concurrent to Bill Clinton giving four talks in Latin America for $800,000 telling the attendees that Hillary Clinton was actually for the free trade agreement but in campaign mode. Hillary Clinton became a supporter of the legislation once in office and later as SOS was involved in an expansion of Plan Colomia that included development of seven USA military bases on Colombian soil.

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Thu Jun 9, 2016, 11:32 PM

36. I'm sure the average voter will agree that over a hundred million was paid in speaking & consulting

fees and NOTHING was expected in return. And they just kept giving and were receiving nothing in return

And the timing of the money and what transpired was just one big coincidence again and again and again............

I wonder what the odds are of that occurring?


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Response to Skwmom (Reply #36)

Fri Jun 10, 2016, 06:51 AM

41. you got a better chance of winning the lottery without buying a ticket.

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Fri Jun 10, 2016, 06:53 AM

42. she was corrupted by Walmart long before she started hanging with her bankster buddies.

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Fri Jun 10, 2016, 06:58 AM

43. I disagree (nt)

 

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:06 AM

46. This is so insane. At the very least, the myriad of

 

the appearances of conflicts of interest created by both Hillary and Bill Clinton are disturbing. The facts are clear and well established. Money=Access. Access=the opportunity for Influence. The Princeton study on this couldn't be more definitive.

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Response to BootinUp (Original post)

Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:09 AM

47. Really? This is the fight you want to make now?


HRC fans are just trying to push people like me away from her.

Yeah, there's no proof. if there was proof she would be in jail and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

But EW pointed to an example of shady behavior with the bankruptcy bill. She voted for it when it didn't even have enough votes to pass.

I willing to accept HRC as a less corrupt politician than Trump would be, but if I have to listen to this bullshit I'm checking out on HRC.

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