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Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:54 PM

 

AP claims secret superdelegates who wish to remain anonymous said privately they support Clinton!!!!

Good enough for the corporate media. But .........
Why do these super secret superdelegates want to keep their support of Clinton a big secret? Shouldn't they be proud to come out publicly and indicate they intend to vote for Secretary Clinton like 400 other superdelegates have? Why are they shy about their endorsement?
Maybe they want more wiggle room so they can change their minds before they cast their votes on July 25th. imagine2015




Perfect End to Democratic Primary: Anonymous Super-Delegates Declare Winner Through Media
by Glenn Greenwald
June 7, 2016


Last night, Associated Press – on a day when nobody voted – surprised everyone by abruptly declaring the Democratic Party primary over and Hillary Clinton the victor. The decree, issued the night before the California primary in which polls show Clinton and Bernie Sanders in a very close race, was based on the media organization’s survey of “super-delegates”: the Democratic Party’s 720 insiders, corporate donors and officials whose votes for the presidential nominee count the same as the actually elected delegates. AP claims that super-delegates who had not previously announced their intentions privately told AP reporters that they intend to vote for Clinton, bringing her over the threshold. AP is concealing the identity of the decisive super-delegates who said this.

Although the Sanders campaign rejected the validity of AP’s declaration – on the ground that the super-delegates do not vote until the convention and he intends to try to persuade them to vote for him – most major media outlets followed the projection and declared Clinton the winner.

This is the perfect symbolic ending to the Democratic Party primary. The nomination is consecrated by a media organization, on a day when nobody voted, based on secret discussions with anonymous establishment insiders and donors whose identity the media organization – incredibly – conceals. The decisive edifice of super-delegates is itself anti-democratic and inherently corrupt: designed to prevent actual voters from making choices that the party establishment dislikes. But for a party run by insiders and funded by corporate interests, it’s only fitting that their nomination process ends with such an ignominious, awkward and undemocratic sputter.

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/06/07/perfect-end-democratic-primary-anonymous-super-delegates-declare-winner-through

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Reply AP claims secret superdelegates who wish to remain anonymous said privately they support Clinton!!!! (Original post)
imagine2015 Jun 2016 OP
Gomez163 Jun 2016 #1
Fumesucker Jun 2016 #3
imagine2015 Jun 2016 #4
Gomez163 Jun 2016 #6
imagine2015 Jun 2016 #12
NCTraveler Jun 2016 #2
Gomez163 Jun 2016 #7
NCTraveler Jun 2016 #8
imagine2015 Jun 2016 #14
JudyM Jun 2016 #19
JudyM Jun 2016 #18
catnhatnh Jun 2016 #22
imagine2015 Jun 2016 #9
NCTraveler Jun 2016 #17
Maedhros Jun 2016 #5
djean111 Jun 2016 #11
Maedhros Jun 2016 #15
pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #10
SheilaT Jun 2016 #13
msongs Jun 2016 #16
imagine2015 Jun 2016 #20
eastwestdem Jun 2016 #21
Garrett78 Jun 2016 #23

Response to imagine2015 (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:54 PM

1. HOW DARE THEY OPEN THEIR DAMN PIEHOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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Response to Gomez163 (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:57 PM

3. If Clinton really didn't want them to then they will be sorry soon enough

I think there's a sewer inspector job open in Nome Alaska...

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Response to Gomez163 (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:57 PM

4. Who is they??? Who they be?

 


Do you know who these proud secret backers of Hillary Clinton are?

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Response to imagine2015 (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:01 PM

6. AP Knows.

 

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Response to Gomez163 (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:10 PM

12. AP nose stuff.

 


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Response to imagine2015 (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 01:57 PM

2. They have seen the hate and death threats toward other Clinton SD's?

 

I know those weren't truly Sanders supporters but we are talking serious threats none the less. Even an arrest at a Clinton SD's office. Guy literally showed up to his office to threaten him. These Trump supporters masquerading as Sanders supporters are extremely sick and violent.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:02 PM

7. Amy Chozick of the NYT has received death threats from the Bernie Bros.

 

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Response to Gomez163 (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:04 PM

8. But they just can't figure out why they might want to stay behind the scene for a bit longer. nt.

 

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Response to Gomez163 (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:14 PM

14. Who? Any evidence it was Bernie campaigners and not counterfeit "dirty trick" imposters?

 


No evidence, no case.

Just more old fashioned mud slinging.

You hoping this one will stick?

Try something new and original.

Are you hiding from the notorious Sanders gang?



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Response to imagine2015 (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:32 PM

19. Chairs thrown!

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Response to Gomez163 (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:32 PM

18. Or people posing as Berniebros.

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Response to Gomez163 (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:40 PM

22. Amy CLAIMS this

and yet I see no reference to an investigation or a police report.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:04 PM

9. Right. Bernie Sanders and his violent thugs and goons are gonna get em!

 

If superdelegates are hiding under their beds fearing Bernie Sanders voters must be absolutely terrified of Donald Trump and his very real violent supporters.

How are you going to fight and defeat Trump if Hillary and the Democratic Party official superdelegates are paralyzed by fear?

Must be a really weak candidate with weak shaking in their boots superdelegates.


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Response to imagine2015 (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:31 PM

17. You don't seem to understand the difference between fear and intelligence. nt.

 

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Response to imagine2015 (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:01 PM

5. Greenwald's closing paragraph:

 

That the Democratic Party nominating process is declared to be over in such an uninspiring, secretive, and elite-driven manner is perfectly symbolic of what the party, and its likely nominee, actually is. The one positive aspect, though significant, is symbolic, while the actual substance — rallying behind a Wall Street-funded, status quo-perpetuating, multimillionaire militarist — is grim in the extreme. The Democratic Party got exactly the ending it deserved.


I can't really add much to that, other than to ask "Why the fuck are progressives and liberals still meekly surrendering their political support to such a Party?"

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Response to Maedhros (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:07 PM

11. Well, I am registering as unaffiliated, after I vote for Alan Grayson in the Florida

 

primary in August. Sadly, I cannot vote for Tim Canova. After that, I am out, and will do my best to work with or be useful to the groups that have coalesced because of Bernie.

I was never going to vote for anyone who shilled for or voted for the TPP and/or Fast Track, so anyone who thinks I was going to support Hillary, and then Bernie came along, is delusional. ISSUES, not personalities.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:20 PM

15. This will likely be my last post, here:

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512148977

We'll see if I survive tombstoning for that.

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Response to imagine2015 (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:07 PM

10. SPOT ON

Thank you Glenn Greenwald. This whole election process has been outrageous!

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Response to imagine2015 (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:12 PM

13. Super secret super delegates?

 

Is this saying there are additional super delegates that no one even knows about?

Why exactly do I doubt that?

What I don't doubt is that not all of the Supers have come forward to say who they'll vote for at the Convention.

Hillary still does not have enough pledged delegates for the nomination. Yes, some 500 of the supers have said they'll vote for her at the Convention, most of whom pledged their support for her before anyone else was in the race.

It really is not yet over.

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Response to imagine2015 (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:28 PM

16. but but but bernie says supers dont matter. wait they do matter if they vote only for him. nt

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Response to imagine2015 (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:24 PM

20. Washington Post: AP declined tell us which superdelegates informed them about their decisions

 

Washington Post
June 7, 2016

"We don't know which superdelegates were the ones who informed the AP about their decisions on Monday; the AP declined to tell us who they were."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/07/why-the-associated-press-called-the-race-for-hillary-clinton-when-nobody-was-looking/

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Response to imagine2015 (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:31 PM

21. Makes sense. They likely don't want to offend their Sanders' supporting constituents

 

by committing before the primaries are over. Given that Hillary has had this nomination essentially locked up since March, they realize that their votes are not necessary right now, so it makes perfect sense.

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Response to imagine2015 (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:45 PM

23. The list of superdelegates and who they each support is out in the open.

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