HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Retired » Retired Forums » 2016 Postmortem (Forum) » Bernie Wins California!

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:38 PM

Bernie Wins California!

Because David Dayen Says So:

Bernie Sanders Has Already Won California


This is why we fight:


Delegates and vote counts and nominations aside, Sanders’s campaign has reinvented Democratic politics in California. When—not if—his progressive successors rebuild the coalition, it will change liberal politics, both here and across the country.


And will keep fighting to the bitter end.

https://newrepublic.com/article/133945/bernie-sanders-already-won-california

12 replies, 1973 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread

Response to Meteor Man (Original post)

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:41 PM

1. Bitter end is June 7th

 

Hillary clinches, California doesn't matter

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to beachbumbob (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 11:48 PM

4. Like to Flame Bait much?

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to 2banon (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 04:48 AM

8. No flame...it's a fact

 

Best get used to it. Hillarys wins the primary race and is pronounce the democratic nominee 9 pm Tuesday night...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to beachbumbob (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:50 AM

12. That's an interesting admission of election fraud right here on du

 

the only way to be so certain of an election result which hasn't occurred yet, is if election fraud is involved.

Duly Noted.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Meteor Man (Original post)

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 10:16 PM

2. the hell it is. She won't have the pledged delegates and in a month the FBI

will make their decision. No super delegate will support a candidate sporting a mug shot. I am sick of people saying states don't matter. They all do and if she's the one, she will need them all to beat trump which general election polling shows her losing to him. I would keep the smug cheap shots to yourself.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to roguevalley (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 10:21 PM

3. +10,000 nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to roguevalley (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:07 AM

7. You know who polls better than Bernie for the GE?

Biden

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to roguevalley (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:17 AM

11. Nowhere in the rules does it say the nomination has to be won with pledged delegates alone.

 

That's a straw the Bernie side has grasped at ever since it became clear he was the loser.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Meteor Man (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:05 AM

5. This article offers an excellent analysis of the California electorate

 

Thank you so much Meteor Man..

The coalition Sanders has assembled in California, and the way he’s campaigned in the state, is a sneak preview of the next generation of liberal politics, in a state that’s always seen as a bellwether for the rest of the nation. In a sense, the final vote tally really doesn’t matter—because, in the most important and lasting ways, Sanders has already won California.




California is a liberal state, but it’s also a “machine” state: The labor federation’s preferred candidates, or the Democrats with high name recognition, are typically quite successful. The state is so massive that organizing on the ground can prove impossible. So can encouraging higher turnout among normally less-reliable voting groups.

This all made Hillary Clinton look like the perfect candidate for California. She garnered all the important endorsements, including governor and one-time bitter rival Jerry Brown. She certainly has the name ID. And she’s had an edge throughout the Democratic primary season with minority voters—which bodes well for a majority-minority state. A year ago this time, Clinton was up on Sanders in the well-respected Field Poll by a rather intimidating margin: 66-9.

But recent enhancements to voter registration laws have fostered political participation in California. Diligent work by progressives in 2012 to mobilize young and minority voters helped save the state, in fact, when they turned out to pass a budget-balancing tax hike on people making over $500,000 a year. (Don’t believe the Jerry Brown hagiographies; it was progressives, who forced Brown to place a winnable initiative on the ballot, who really primed California for its turnaround.) In just the first three months of this year, nearly 1 million voters registered—most of them Democratic, with big spikes for Latinos and young voters.


Those new voters have changed the composition of California’s electorate—and they’ve helped turn the Sanders-Clinton contest into, well, a contest. The most accurate polls statewide show the race a virtual tie; the Field Poll puts Clinton at 45 percent and Sanders at 43.



Sanders hasn’t just shown up to greet Californians and then jetted out. With a robust volunteer base, he’s been able to muster a statewide ground game, in contrast to most Democrats who prefer to run up the score in California’s urban metropolises. Clinton is still winning the Central Valley, but Sanders is keeping pace enough to remain competitive overall, thanks to a strong advantage in the Bay Area.

What is more striking is how the demographic splits we’ve seen across the country in the primaries aren’t translating to California. Sanders is only losing the Latino vote in the Field Poll 46-42. The African-American vote, while in favor of Clinton, is not the blowout we’ve seen elsewhere (57-36), and Sanders is winning the “Asian-American/other” category, which is actually bigger than the black vote (there are twice as many Asian-Americans as African-Americans in California), by a healthy margin.



Read more here




Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Meteor Man (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 12:06 AM

6. When his progressive successors rebuild the coalition it will be filled with Clinton supporters

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Meteor Man (Original post)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 04:57 AM

9. This primary will be settled on the convention floor.

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to B Calm (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 5, 2016, 05:18 AM

10. Sure, in the sense that the general election will be settled on December 18th.

Of course, in any relevant sense, the primary will be settled within a few weeks (and in most relevant senses, was settled in March). There comes a point where people just stop paying attention to the few who claim it isn't settled.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread