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Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:18 PM

 

Sanders: "I Just saw Hillary and Bill Racing To California. Maybe they think campaign isn't over"



'This Campaign Is Not Over': Polls Show Dead Heat in California
New poll also finds Sanders ahead of Clinton among 'potential Democratic electorate'
by Nika Knight, staff writer
June 2, 2016


The Field poll (pdf), released Thursday, found Clinton leading Sanders by a mere two pointsówithin the survey's margin of error. Clinton had the support of 45 percent of the Democratic voters polled, and Sanders had 43 percent. Clinton's lead in the state has shrunk from a whopping 50 points to today's statistical tie with Sanders, as previous polls also captured.

Meanwhile, a NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist poll published Wednesday found Sanders beating Clinton by one point when the potential Democratic electorate was surveyed, instead of only voters registered as Democrats:



Sanders has been attracting enormous crowds at rallies throughout California in the lead-up to Tuesday's primary, sending Clinton scrambling to try to regain her once-formidable lead in the delegate-rich state.

"I read the newspapers, and they all said the campaign is over. But suddenly I just saw Hillary Clinton racing to California, Bill Clinton racing to California," Sanders said in Palo Alto on Wednesday. "Maybe they think this campaign is not over. And I agree with them. We are going to win here in California, we are going to win many of the other states up on June 7, we are going to leave California with enormous momentum going into the convention, and I believe we've got a real shot to come out of that convention with the Democratic nomination for president of the United States."

Sanders has noted the tremendous amount of support his campaign has received from young people, telling the Palo Alto crowd that he hopes they feel "enormously gratified [that] our message in this campaign, of creating a nation and a vision based on social justice, economic justice, racial justice, and environmental justice, that whether Donald Trump likes it or not, whether Hillary Clinton likes it or notóthat is the future vision of this country."



Bernie Sanders Rally in Palo Alto, California



Bernie Sanders Davis California Rally

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/06/02/campaign-not-over-polls-show-dead-heat-california

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Reply Sanders: "I Just saw Hillary and Bill Racing To California. Maybe they think campaign isn't over" (Original post)
imagine2015 Jun 2016 OP
firebrand80 Jun 2016 #1
brooklynite Jun 2016 #2
SheenaR Jun 2016 #4
brooklynite Jun 2016 #5
SheenaR Jun 2016 #8
thesquanderer Jun 2016 #16
frylock Jun 2016 #21
thesquanderer Jun 2016 #24
NWCorona Jun 2016 #15
SheenaR Jun 2016 #3
imagine2015 Jun 2016 #6
SheenaR Jun 2016 #9
TwilightZone Jun 2016 #7
SheenaR Jun 2016 #12
frylock Jun 2016 #22
MisterP Jun 2016 #10
bettyellen Jun 2016 #17
SheenaR Jun 2016 #18
bettyellen Jun 2016 #19
AzDar Jun 2016 #11
Lil Missy Jun 2016 #13
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Rex Jun 2016 #14
pdsimdars Jun 2016 #20
MineralMan Jun 2016 #23

Response to imagine2015 (Original post)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:22 PM

1. I don't see Bernie in NJ

which he needs to work hard to at least keep close to have a shot at winning. Maybe he knows it's over.

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Response to imagine2015 (Original post)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:25 PM

2. I just saw Bernie and Jane not racing to New Jersey...maybe they think it's hopeless...

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:26 PM

4. If you would like to equate the two

I can't help you.

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Response to SheenaR (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:31 PM

5. I'll certainly acknowledge that California is bigger than NJ...but Sanders needs both

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:33 PM

8. He is tossing NJ....No question.

It's a waste of his time. He will not win there. And I agree with the strategy. A win in California would dwarf any loss he has elsewhere.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:54 PM

16. He's very unlikely to get NJ, whether he does more campaigning there or not.

It's a closed primary, much of it is practically a suburb of New York City which he lost badly (though NJ doesn't have the ridiculous requirement of having had to declare your party affiliation 6 months ahead of time).

To some extent, it might be a zero sum game... any delegates he might pick up by campaigning more in NJ could be offset by delegate he might lose by campaigning less in CA.

But beyond the delegate count, there's the PR of winning a state. Right now, I think he wants to try as hard as he can to win CA, and everything else is secondary. He could spend a bunch of time in NJ, maybe pick up some delegates, but would still probably lose the state... and that time away from CA would make it harder to win that one. Much better win one of the two than neither of them. So I think it's all about trying to get CA into the win column. He's got the better shot there, and it's got more delegates, besides.

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:35 PM

21. I'm sure we'll all hear about how racist it was of him to ignore NJ.

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Response to frylock (Reply #21)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:40 PM

24. Luckily (?) for him, CA is pretty diverse.

Though also, he didn't completely ignore NJ. He did have at least two rallies.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:39 PM

15. I thought the same about Hillary and Oregon.

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Response to imagine2015 (Original post)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:25 PM

3. 30 events in 5 days for the Clintons

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-hillary-clinton-california-20160602-snap-story.html

Idk why someone would do that especially when the race is over according to their own words

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Response to SheenaR (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:32 PM

6. A clear act of desperation. Don't be so quick to declare the General Election has begun.

 


The GE doesn't begin until the Democratic Party decides who it wants to run for President and Vice-President.

That's up in the air since neither Hillary nor Bernie can win the 2,383 pledged delegates they need to secure the nomination before the convention.

It will be a contested convention.

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Response to imagine2015 (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:34 PM

9. I'm on your side there. I think it's funny that they are getting nervous

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Response to SheenaR (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:33 PM

7. Because this is about more than the primaries.

The race doesn't end when Clinton is named the presumptive nominee next week. The more-important race is just starting.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:35 PM

12. I don't buy it

Trump would never win California. This is about optics. A loss here to a so called guy who is done would look awful.

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Response to SheenaR (Reply #12)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:36 PM

22. This.

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Response to SheenaR (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:34 PM

10. and no debate ...

hope she stays outta East El E: they know what's going on in Honduras

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Response to SheenaR (Reply #3)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 02:54 PM

17. Every ad run and at every event she is taking about Trump.

 

So yeah, she is running against Donald now- just like Bernie hoped to with that debate.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #17)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 03:30 PM

18. Ok, I'll go by your theory then

If she is in fact blitzing CA on June 2 for the GE, in a state that should be a slam dunk in the GE, then we have more to worry about than semantics. There's no way they are doing 30 events for the GE at this juncture.

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Response to SheenaR (Reply #18)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 03:40 PM

19. She is talking about the GE wherever she goes- where she is doesn't matter as much as what she says

 

A huge part of her time now is also involved in NJ and a lot more fundraising before she goes on a blitz of swing states. Strategy!

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Response to imagine2015 (Original post)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:34 PM

11. K & R

 

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Response to imagine2015 (Original post)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:38 PM

13. Bernie flatters himself.

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Response to imagine2015 (Original post)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:38 PM

14. .

 

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Response to imagine2015 (Original post)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 03:56 PM

20. I wonder how much difference their "events" will make. One reporter on Thom Hartmann said

 

she went to a Hillary event and there were 400-500 people. And we all see the pictures of Bernies events with THOUSANDS of people.

Geez, I wonder where the momentum and enthusiasm are? Hmmmmmmmmmm

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Response to imagine2015 (Original post)

Thu Jun 2, 2016, 04:40 PM

23. The real campaign is just beginning.

Hillary gave a general election campaign speech today in California. Maybe you heard it.

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